Matt39 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 cooper is better than Julio lol cmon MON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, Dre Kirkpatrick, Donta hightower, dee milliner, chance warmack, courtney upshaw Hightower is playin great as is Upshaw Warmack is still young and starts every play I will give you Trich, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 lol cmon MON he is ... possession wr lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 he is ... possession wr lmao Coopers a great college receiver....Julio was a thoroughbred built for the NFL. I see Cooper as a productive slot chain mover in the NFL. He's undersized and not a freaky enough athlete (ala Beckham) Maybe the Jets should draft Geno Smith part deux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Coopers a great college receiver....Julio was a thoroughbred built for the NFL. I see Cooper as a productive slot chain mover in the NFL. He's undersized and not a freaky enough athlete (ala Beckham) Maybe the Jets should draft Geno Smith part deux watch more tape dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckingball Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Coopers a great college receiver....Julio was a thoroughbred built for the NFL. I see Cooper as a productive slot chain mover in the NFL. He's undersized and not a freaky enough athlete (ala Beckham) Maybe the Jets should draft Geno Smith part deux I don't get what geno's relevance to this is... But I don't know definitively about Cooper's measurables. He could be once the combine numbers comeback, but you don't need to be an athletic freak to be great. The guys in the NFL are gifted anyways btw look at Jordy Nelson yeah he wasn't a "freak" like OBJ/Julio but he's damn good WR nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I don't get what geno's relevance to this is... But I don't know definitively about Cooper's measurables. He could be once the combine numbers comeback, but you don't need to be an athletic freak to be great. The guys in the NFL are gifted anyways btw look at Jordy Nelson yeah he wasn't a "freak" like OBJ/Julio but he's damn good WR nonetheless. There's a Geno Smith playing for Alabama... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckingball Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 quote name="Matt39" post="2610532" timestamp="1417322280"]There's a Geno Smith playing for Alabama... LOL that's who I thought you were talking about until I saw "part deux" part. Sad thing is we probably should've turned in the card for this Geno Smith at least he's a CB. better him than the guys Idzick scouted at his local Stop N Shop. [ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckingball Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 There's a Geno Smith playing for Alabama... LOL that's who I thought you were talking about until I saw "part deux" part. Sad thing is we probably should've turned in the card for this one. Instead he thought it was better to use his scouting skills at the local Stop N Shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 cooper will go to raiders and mariota will go to the bucs. so might as well take them off your wishlist because we aint getting either of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 If Mariota is gone...all is lost. j/k sorta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, Dre Kirkpatrick, Donta hightower, dee milliner, chance warmack, courtney upshaw They just did a whole thing on how good Ingram is playing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 They just did a whole thing on how good Ingram is playing... Trent Richardson however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Trent Richardson however. A very average NFL RB thus far. I would say you've won that debate YTD. On the scale between (your) sucks to (my) ultra talented, he's got a slight lean under the mendoza line. Depressing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 A very average NFL RB thus far. I would say you've won that debate YTD. On the scale between (your) sucks to (my) ultra talented, he's got a slight lean under the mendoza line. Depressing... He might not be in the league next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 He might not be in the league next year. That's worth a $50 bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 That's worth a $50 bet. He'll be in someones camp...depends on the stipulations...is he on a roster week 1 I'd probably take. $50 he's not on the Colts Im definitely in for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 i love cooper if no qb available i have no problem drafting him then oline for most of the other rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 He'll be in someones camp...depends on the stipulations...is he on a roster week 1 I'd probably take. $50 he's not on the Colts Im definitely in for. Trent Richardson is a bust as to where he was picked in the draft. He's one of the many examples as to why you just don't pick a running back early in the draft anymore. He will be in the league next year as someone's second back or possibly just riding the bench as a backup. I don't think his career is over just yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 We could draft Jerry Rice, but he's still be sh*t with the garbage we have Q.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Trent Richardson is a bust as to where he was picked in the draft. He's one of the many examples as to why you just don't pick a running back early in the draft anymore. He will be in the league next year as someone's second back or possibly just riding the bench as a backup. I don't think his career is over just yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He's not a change of pace guy and he's been terrible in his early down role...I don't see what value he brings at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 i love cooper if no qb available i have no problem drafting him then oline for most of the other rounds he wont get past the raiders. and Winston is a ******* scrub with a 2 cent brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Cooper is very interesting, but the guy I still love is Parker. I'd rather trade down and pick Parker than go for Cooper, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I love Cooper and wouldn't mind it one bit if he's on the team, but to me personally, I think Parker is the better value because he has very similar upside but won't cost as much. I think Parker could go mid first round right now, so if we could do something like the Browns did and move down about 8 spots and pick up an extra first round pick, I'd love to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 As far as WR I'm not so sure last WR I seen play like this from Bama was wait for it.... Julio jones. by this logic Stephen hill must be as good as wait for it..... Calvin Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The guy is on the same playing field as Sammy Watkins, if not better. He has a very similar game to Julio Jones. I'd be ecstatic if the Jets drafted him. It'd give us a top flight receiving corp for whoever the next qb is. If we had Cooper, Decker, Harvin, Kerley and Amaro next year, you might be able to convince Farve to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I like Cooper so long as we can get some decent free agent pick ups at OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I like Cooper so long as we can get some decent free agent pick ups at OL. Mike Iupati would be perfect to shore up LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Mike Iupati would be perfect to shore up LG I agree. Hopefully get another lower tier OT for competition and possible replacement of what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 MY GoD Coates is feasting on Alabama Defense!!i think if we draft the duck that coates will be there with our 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I don't know. I really like Ty Montgomery. He reminds me of Jordan Mathews. I would love to have Mariota and then 2 to 3 nice valued WR's. We could go CB and O line in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Cooper is very interesting, but the guy I still love is Parker. I'd rather trade down and pick Parker than go for Cooper, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I love Cooper and wouldn't mind it one bit if he's on the team, but to me personally, I think Parker is the better value because he has very similar upside but won't cost as much. I think Parker could go mid first round right now, so if we could do something like the Browns did and move down about 8 spots and pick up an extra first round pick, I'd love to do so. Yes Yes Yes Trade down and get Parker!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckingball Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 by this logic Stephen hill must be as good as wait for it..... Calvin Johnson. I don't recall Stephen Hill playing like Calvin Johnson in college. Only resemblance I recall were his measurable a and alma mater. Megatron was a beast and pulled off one of the better one handed catches I've ever seen. So to make a long story short.....NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I like Cooper so long as we can get some decent free agent pick ups at OL. I defer to others on any college player, but I've always felt that, on offense, it's a lot easier to get OLmen than a difference-maker at WR (or QB for that matter). Especially now, with the rookie salaries under control. I was more able to be swayed on this when a top 5 pick was getting $10M+/year (when the cap was in the $100-110M range). Then, the last thing a horrible team could afford - even more than missing out on a great player - was getting buried by a terrible, guaranteed deal on TOP of missing out on someone special. And OLmen have generally or historically been less risky if they're valued that highly. Obviously there are huge exceptions. But whiff on your #5 overall pick and you still need protection from your QB and still need that playmaker and you're also wasting time force-feeding your bust onto the team. So you're also not going to go all-out in FA to correct the mistake until you've given your bust every possible chance in the world. Nowadays, though, it's a lot easier to recover from a bad pick (cap-wise). I think it makes swinging for the fences, on higher risk playmaker/difference-makers, a more worthwhile gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I want Cooper. Let's face it there's no chance we get a head coach that will play to Mariota and his spread formation... We should draft Cooper and snag Connor Cook next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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