Villain The Foe Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 12/17 are the correct numbers not 21/27. Clarify or please move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I agree. I'd rather take a chance on trading a 3rd or 2nd for Glennon and fail than to go into the season with Fitzpatrick as the starter. sh*t, I'd rather do that than to see Geno take over the job from Fitz if Fitz fails. Not counting Devin Smith in the last decade these are our 2nd rd picks..Mike Nugent,Justin Miller,Kellen Clemens,Davis Harris,Vlad Ducasse,Stephen Hill,Geno and Amaro.. Outside of David Harris we really haven't hit many solid choices, that's why I would waste a 2nd pick on The Foe's Mike "The Gun" Glennon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Not counting Devin Smith in the last decade these are our 2nd rd picks..Mike Nugent,Justin Miller,Kellen Clemens,Davis Harris,Vlad Ducasse,Stephen Hill,Geno and Amaro.. Outside of Davis Harris we really haven't hit many solid choices, that's why I would waste a 2nd pick on The Foe's Mike "The Gun" Glennon.. And I promise you, it wouldnt be a waste! lol. Im about to go to Florham Park myself. You're getting me hyped dude lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 If Macca and Bowles cant see how bad Fitzpatrick is we have bigger problems. Im a Geno Smith fan I was expecting big things from him this season. Lets see what Fitzpatrick does next pre season game for the doubters and if I'm wrong I eat crow no worries I dont hide I actually want him to do well for all us Jets fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Clarify or please move on. You posted Fitz had 27 ints and 21 tds in his first 4 season. He had 12 tds and 17 ints in his first 4 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 If Macca and Bowles cant see how bad Fitzpatrick is we have bigger problems. they did give Geno all the reps and basically gave him the job. So they agree with you JW. As a football player Geno Smith is better than Fitz. at least on paper. He is certainly a better athlete. but as a human being Geno Smith is a disaster. Who doesn't pay their debts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 they did give Geno all the reps and basically gave him the job. So they agree with you JW. As a football player Geno Smith is better than Fitz. at least on paper as a human being Geno Smith is a disaster. Who doesn't pay their debts? What players do off the field doesn't concern me until it effects what they do on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Here you go. I'll provide info on Fitz. Us Jets fans know what Geno did last year. I'll just cut and paste since I already provided this for another poster here. And please keep in mind, this is a 10 year QB, not a QB coming off of his rookie season. Fitz played 12 games last year. 7 of those 12 games Fitz threw for 212 or less yards. 8 of those games he threw for 1 TD or less, and of those he had 3 games where he passed for no TD's. He went over the 300 yards passing once, against the Titans, the same team where he threw 6 of his 17 TD's on the season. I know I dont have to tell you that the Titans have been one of the worst teams in the league. I also dont have to tell you that Fitz was in a division where he played those Titans and Jags twice a year. He played in the worst division in football. As a sidenote, thats one of the reasons why I say Luck is slightly overrated. He plays bums twice a year (Jags, TItans, Texans) wins 11 games then gets manhandled in the playoffs, yet everyone praises this dude. Back on topic. Ryan Fitzpatrick didnt have a good season. He beat teams that anyone in the league would beat...which was his own division or bad teams in other divisions. Redskins (4-12) Raiders (3-13) Tennessee twice (2-14) Jags (3-13) The only respectable team the Texans beat last year was the Bills (9-7), and Fitz had 268 yds. 1TD 2INT's in that game, which was his best game of the season until he seen the Jags and had that 6 TD performance. You guys are lying to yourselves. Appreciate the response ... It was rhetorical to JW12 ... As he is spouting wrong info Actually have to run out to pick up the little man ... But will review your post in detail later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Appreciate the response ... It was rhetorical to JW12 ... As he is spouting wrong info Actually have to run out to pick up the little man ... But will review your post in detail later on. Im not wasting my time with you, you want stats go look them up you will disagree with them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 He's not going to get a WR killed throwing a bad pass or get knocked out by a teammate. As I said before this year is meaningless outside of see what the new coaches, system and players can do. The Jets aren't seeing the playoffs for a few years. Are u kidding me ur hate for Geno is that personal . Your gonna tell me Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't gonna throw bad passes are you being serious ? Lol at Recievers getting killed like elite QBs don't make passes where there guys get hit .. Welker got how concussion playing with Brady and manning . This is football, players get hit man . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 What players do off the field doesn't concern me until it effects what they do on the field. Geno's off the field decision to not re-pay IK effected his season, greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 You posted Fitz had 27 ints and 21 tds in his first 4 season. He had 12 tds and 17 ints in his first 4 seasons. So in 5 years his stats were what I presented. I appreciate that, that makes my argument towards Jetsfan80 that much stronger. I got confused by your 12/17. It looked like a date. but since you didnt clarify I thought you were saying that was his win/lose record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Are u kidding me ur hate for Geno is that personal . Your gonna tell me Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't gonna throw bad passes are you being serious ? Lol at Recievers getting killed like elite QBs don't make passes where they guys get hit .. Welker got how concussion playing with Brady and manning . This is football players get hit man . LOL you cant make this sh*t up but the Geno haters certainly are. Great reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Are u kidding me ur hate for Geno is that personal . Your gonna tell me Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't gonna throw bad passes are you being serious ? Lol at Recievers getting killed like elite QBs don't make passes where they guys get hit .. Welker got how concussion playing with Brady and manning . This is football players get hit man . Zero personal outside of watching your team suck for 40 years. Geno isn't an NFL caliber QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 So in 5 years his stats were what I presented. I appreciate that, that makes my argument towards Jetsfan80 that much stronger. I got confused by your 12/17. It looked like a date. but since you didnt clarify I thought you were saying that was his win/lose record. It was if you were around for Christmas during WW1?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Zero personal outside of watching your team suck for 40 years. Geno isn't an NFL caliber QB. Neither is Fitzpatrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 So in 5 years his stats were what I presented. I appreciate that, that makes my argument towards Jetsfan80 that much stronger. I got confused by your 12/17. It looked like a date. but since you didnt clarify I thought you were saying that was his win/lose record. As I said. I don't like either QB. I was just pointing out your numbers were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Neither is Fitzpatrick I 100% agree. They both suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 As I said. I don't like either QB. I was just pointing out your numbers were wrong. If you count the year he didnt record any stats then yeah, im wrong. I counted the first 4 years that he actually had stats recorded. But technically speaking, I was wrong. I was more concerned about his years that were actually recorded. Thats like Dexter McDougle, Quincy Enunwa and Shaq Evans being 2nd year players when we all know that this is their rookie season you know? But technically..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 That Fitz Delusion is so real I might have to stay off these boards when yall remember who Rysn Fitzpatrick really is after week 1.. Cause some yall are gonna come back to earth fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The fact that Geno was still a somewhat unknown commodity made Geno our best option. 10 years in the league starting for 5 different teams solidifies you for being what your record says you are. Geno won 8 games his rookie year, Fitz hasnt won 8 games in a season his entire career....not even 7. A simple glance at a record doesnt effectively refute anything, you're right. However, a detailed look does. geno held this team back to only 8 wins that season. last year he gave us 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 geno held this team back to only 8 wins that season. last year he gave us 3 Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 That Fitz Delusion is so real I might have to stay off these boards when yall remember who Rysn Fitzpatrick really is after week 1.. Cause some yall are gonna come back to earth fast I could say the same thing about you and Geno. They both completely suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 So the debate is who sucks less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 geno held this team back to only 8 wins that season. last year he gave us 3 Held us back ? Do they win vs TB without Geno scrambling and getting the flag ? Do they win vs Atlanta Monday night without his solid effort , do we beat the bills with out those huge deep balls to the likes Holmes . People forget fast . That roster 2 years ago was one of the worst jets rosters constructed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I could say the same thing about you and Geno. They both completely suck. Look around I never disputed that Geno hasn't don't nothing to this point but Fitz hasn't done sh*t in 10 years .. Your hard on for Geno is funny tho . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 If you count the year he didnt record any stats then yeah, im wrong. I counted the first 4 years that he actually had stats recorded. But technically speaking, I was wrong. .. You'd still be wrong. He recorded stats his first and forth year and none his 2nd and 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Look around I never disputed that .. Your hard on for Geno is funny tho . You look around I think they both suck. Just Geno more so at this moment. It's like debating with Bush and Obama fans. Both of them sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 So the debate is who sucks less? Fitzmagic is great . He doesn't make bad passes how the football gods have bless us. lmaooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 You'd still be wrong. He recorded stats his first and forth year and none his 2nd and 3rd He played in 1 game in 2006. "Technically" thats a stat. You're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 He played in 1 game in 2006. Thats a stat. You're wrong. In that case he played in 1 game in 07 as well. He just didn't have 3 yards rushing like he did in 06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Fitzmagic is great . He doesn't make bad passes how the football gods have bless us. lmaooooo Fitz is a scrub and Geno has been the worst QB in the NFL his first two years. Both of them suck unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Fitz is a scrub and Geno has been the worst QB in the NFL his first two years. Both of them suck unfortunately. This I agree with 100% . No sugar coating straight facts I love it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 geno held this team back to only 8 wins that season. last year he gave us 3 You know what I find odd about Jet fans? When Sanchez won 9 games his rookie season then made it to the AFCCG the excuse was "He rode on the back of the defense". When Sanchez won 11 games his 2nd season then made it to the AFCCG the excuse was "He rode on the back of the defense". Now, when Geno won 8 games his rookie season and missed the playoffs the excuse was "He held the team back that season". Now, when Geno won 3 games his 2nd season and missed the playoffs the excuse was "he only gave us 3 wins". So let me get this straight. When the team wins in the reg season and in the playoffs then the credit goes to the defense. However, when the team loses in the reg season and doesnt go to the playoffs the credit goes to the QB???? How does this happen? I really dont understand. That defense looked like sh*t last year right? That defense couldnt stop 3rd and long no matter the team right? We were picking up CB's off the street right? How about those WR's? Didnt the Jets have by far the worst WR tandem in the league during Geno's rookie campaign? Didnt the Jets have the 6th best rushing attack in terms of yards but like the 25th best in terms of rushing TD's last year? Seriously, most Jets fans cannot be taken seriously when discussing quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 In that case he played in 1 game in 07 as well. He just didn't have 3 yards rushing like he did in 06. Hey, you're the one playing semantics here. lol. My case was made a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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