JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 This guy was our 2nd round pick this year and if he hadn't gotten injured would be playing a significant role for us on offense (IMHO). I hope he is taking notes on a guy like Gronk; we really need him to step up next year. The lack of TE on the roster right now is not only glaring but inexcusable. The Pats back up, Scott Chandler is better than anyone we have on the roster. I can not think of another team in the entire league with a worse TE situation than the Jets. I would not be surprised if we pick a TE in the 3rd, 4th or 5th rounds next year. Meanwhile, Jace needs to make some serious strides next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaxor5 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I've been quietly watching the Chargers record all year...if they're out of it early they might trade Gates. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I've been quietly watching the Chargers record all year...if they're out of it early they might trade Gates. Just a thought. Do not want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Do not want. Me either. Too old and injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Well, considering he didnt think he should be studying guys like Mike Ditka, I'd say he's not too concerned with being anything like Gronk. Would be cool if you just studied someone and then do things just like them never mind the obvious physical limitations, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Amaro can study gronk all he wants, but he doesnt have the physical tools gronk does. He needs to be who he is and make a contribution next hear or his time here could be up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Amaro can study gronk all he wants, but he doesnt have the physical tools gronk does. He needs to be who he is and make a contribution next hear or his time here could be up. He can still learn from watching the best in the business and just tailor it to his skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Amaro is sitting out the season with a non-injury "injury." I think he needs to study for the big UPS driver's test coming up in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Amaro needs at least 10 years of PEDs to be at Gronks level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Well, considering he didnt think he should be studying guys like Mike Ditka, I'd say he's not too concerned with being anything like Gronk. Would be cool if you just studied someone and then do things just like them never mind the obvious physical limitations, etc. So you don't think it would be good for him to study film of the best TE in the game? No one said his game or ability was the same as Gronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 He can still learn from watching the best in the business and just tailor it to his skill set. He would be better off looking at old Graham film that is closer to his skillset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Well if Idzik and JetBlue think he's awesome, that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 He would be better off looking at old Graham film that is closer to his skillset. Fair enough. I mentioned Gronk because we have to face him twice a year. But the bottom line is I hope he is studying the top TEs in the game today. I mean it is not like he doesn't have plenty of time on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 So you don't think it would be good for him to study film of the best TE in the game? No one said his game or ability was the same as Gronk. Like I said, he didnt see why he should study or play like Mike Ditka, so I dont think he gives a ****. He's not even injured. He could watch film of Gronk for an entire year, only missing a minute for sleep, wear his jersey, cut and change his hair color, act like a monster meat head, bang pornstars, eat the same diet, drink his urine, change his legal name to Gronk and he would never even get an inch closer to what Gronk can do on the Football field. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Fair enough. I mentioned Gronk because we have to face him twice a year. But the bottom line is I hope he is studying the top TEs in the game today. I mean it is not like he doesn't have plenty of time on his hands. If he's studying technique, that's cool and all. But no one ever watched an elite player and became good without having the skillset to do so. It's what made Ted Williams a horrible MLB manager. He'd be trying to teach guys next-level stuff when his players were struggling just to make contact. It's also what makes, say, a brilliant physicist an awful teacher if he can't find a way to relate to his students on their level. Just reading a bunch of Stephen Hawking books won't suddenly make you a genius unless you're brilliant yourself. Players who are on another level entirely rarely have much to offer a player of far lesser talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Like I said, he didnt see why he should study or play like Mike Ditka, so I dont think he gives a ****. He's not even injured. He could watch film of Gronk for an entire year, only missing a minute for sleep, wear his jersey, cut and change his hair color, act like a monster meat head, bang pornstars, eat the same diet, drink his urine, change his legal name to Gronk and he would never even get an inch closer to what Gronk can do on the Football field. . First of all Mike Ditka played in a totally different era so why would he watch film of him? If you really think that if you consistently and persistently study and model the best of your profession, you will not improve your skillset, than you are clueless. No one said he would become as good as Gronk; he doesn't have to be. He just needs to become the best player he can be. Studying the Gronks and Grahams of the world can't possibly hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 First of all Mike Ditka played in a totally different era so why would he watch film of him? If you really think that if you consistently and persistently study and model the best of your profession, you will not improve your skillset, than you are clueless. No one said he would become as good as Gronk; he doesn't have to be. He just needs to become the best player he can be. Studying the Gronks and Grahams of the world can't possibly hurt. [Amaro, eating a family sized bag of doritos, notices Gronk make one-handed catch against triple coverage] "Oh sh*t, why didn't I think of that! I get it now!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 If he's studying technique, that's cool and all. But no one ever watched an elite player and became good without having the skillset to do so. It's what made Ted Williams a horrible MLB manager. He'd be trying to teach guys next-level stuff when his players were struggling just to make contact. It's also what makes, say, a brilliant physicist an awful teacher if he can't find a way to relate to his students on their level. Just reading a bunch of Stephen Hawking books won't suddenly make you a genius unless you're brilliant yourself. Players who are on another level entirely rarely have much to offer a player of far lesser talent. That is just it. He HAS the skill set. He was a 2nd round pick for a reason and it wasn't because Idzik was an idiot. He was projected to be the first, second or third TE drafted. He had a solid if inconsistent rookie year. There is no reason to believe he can't develop into a quality TE/HBack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I hope Kristaps Porzingis is studying tape of Shaquille O'Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 [Amaro, eating a family sized bag of doritos, notices Gronk make one-handed catch against triple coverage] "Oh sh*t, why didn't I think of that! I get it now!" Come on, you are better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 That is just it. He HAS the skill set. He was a 2nd round pick for a reason and it wasn't because Idzik was an idiot. He was projected to be the first, second or third TE drafted. He had a solid if inconsistent rookie year. There is no reason to believe he can't develop into a quality TE/HBack. The round you are drafted in does not dictate your skillset. Geno Smith was a 2nd round pick also. Considering how awful Idzik's 19 draft choices were overall, I don't really lend credence to his draft slot. Yes, he was highly acclaimed coming out of school. But this is the pro game and busts happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Amaro got redshirted this year because he was in danger of getting cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Come on, you are better than that. I could say the same thing about you. This thread isn't your finest work. I get what you're trying to say, but it's nonsensical. Watching great TE's play certainly can't hurt, but it also doesn't help much. You have a soft spot for guys who were drafted high and aren't meeting their potential. But teams can't afford to be very patient these days. Make an impact early in your career or you're a lost cause. Especially when you consider that rookie deals are only 4 years these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 I could say the same thing about you. This thread isn't your finest work. I get what you're trying to say, but it's nonsensical. Watching great TE's play certainly can't hurt, but it also doesn't help much. You have a soft spot for guys who were drafted high and aren't meeting their potential. But teams can't afford to be very patient these days. Make an impact early in your career or you're a lost cause. Especially when you consider that rookie deals are only 4 years these days. So you are saying Amaro is a lost cause because he got hurt in camp in his second year? How can you meet your potential if you get injured??? The guy is like 22 or 23 years old and you are already giving up on him? I don't have a soft spot I just have patience and saw flashes from him last year that make me feel he can become a solid contributor. The idea that a player studies the best at his position with the idea of improving is nonsensical to you? Then I guess we can just stop now and agree to disagree. I think he demonstrates in this video that he has the skills to succeed in the NFL; now does he have the mental side down? Time will tell but to give up on a guy after one year is just how do I say, well stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 The round you are drafted in does not dictate your skillset. Geno Smith was a 2nd round pick also. Considering how awful Idzik's 19 draft choices were overall, I don't really lend credence to his draft slot. Yes, he was highly acclaimed coming out of school. But this is the pro game and busts happen. Obviously dude, but you do agree that teams would ASSUME the skill set is better than another player projected to go several rounds later? I mean that just makes sense, right? So you consider him a bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Has Bowles considered having Geno watch tape of Joe Montana? Could be what gets him over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I could say the same thing about you. This thread isn't your finest work. I get what you're trying to say, but it's nonsensical. Watching great TE's play certainly can't hurt, but it also doesn't help much. You have a soft spot for guys who were drafted high and aren't meeting their potential. But teams can't afford to be very patient these days. Make an impact early in your career or you're a lost cause. Especially when you consider that rookie deals are only 4 years these days. I think its to early to say Amaro is a lost cause, if I remember correctly there were not many Pryor supporters at the beginning of the season and that has changed drastically. Players still take time to develop and learn...he will not learn much from the sidelines he will need to actually get in and play but I think he could still develop into a decent TE I don't see him ever being a great TE but he should be serviceable and better than what we have had. Honestly if he ends up being on the same tier as Keller I would be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 This guy was our 2nd round pick this year and if he hadn't gotten injured would be playing a significant role for us on offense (IMHO). I hope he is taking notes on a guy like Gronk; we really need him to step up next year. The lack of TE on the roster right now is not only glaring but inexcusable. The Pats back up, Scott Chandler is better than anyone we have on the roster. I can not think of another team in the entire league with a worse TE situation than the Jets. I would not be surprised if we pick a TE in the 3rd, 4th or 5th rounds next year. Meanwhile, Jace needs to make some serious strides next year... Amaro is not even in Gronkowski's league athletically. He can "study up" all he wants, but he simply doesn't have the same skill set as Gronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 If you play video games, you should watch tape of Jimmy Woods in The Wizard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 So you consider him a bust? I'm saying we can ill-afford to just assume he's going to be a central part of our operations. If he works out, cool. But on top of what I've said already, he's currently in a system that doesn't value the TE a whole lot and will be used as an H-Back. Watching Gronk play not only is futile because he's super elite, he also plays a different position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I certainly hope that anyone vying for the world arm wrestling championship is studying Bull Hurley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The guy had 38 catches as a rookie and looked very good at times. I don't know what the heck was going on this year in camp though, getting dropped int he depth chart and such. I will say that from his rookie year he would be a big help to this team. There is no exaggeration that our TE or HB situation is pure awful. Cumberland is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The guy had 38 catches as a rookie and looked very good at times. I don't know what the heck was going on this year in camp though, getting dropped int he depth chart and such. I will say that from his rookie year he would be a big help to this team. There is no exaggeration that our TE or HB situation is pure awful. Cumberland is terrible. i still can't figure out how he dropped so much in one year - when you are suppose to make big strides. He seems a little soft though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeacon Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 My theory on why he dropped so far is Gailey wants his TE's to block first, run route second. Since Amaro is "soft" and does not have a good handle on this facet of the game they bumped his butt down. Sadly we really could use him as our third option in the passing game and have him as wr. He has a lot of potential, not nearly close enough to giving up on him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Amaro is sitting out the season with a non-injury "injury." I think he needs to study for the big UPS driver's test coming up in a few weeks. In between study Eric Ebron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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