Scott Dierking Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Again, Alderson isn't as smart as some people here, in terms of the current composition of his team: Alderson talks Plan A, B and C for adding a right-handed power hitter Mets GM Sandy Alderson mentioned free-agent OF Jose Bautista and 1B-OF Steve Pearce as the type of players he might pursue if he's unable to re-sign Yoenis Cespedes. Alderson told WOR 710 AM radio on Wednesday that he sees three ways to get right-handed power back in to the team's lineup next season. The first, he said, would be to bring back Cespedes, "who I put in a separate category." The second option, according to Alderson, would be to pursue a similar "significant hitter," "who would occupy quite a bit of playing time." "There are free agents out there and, I don't want to focus on any one, but there are free agents in that category," Alderson added. "Bautista would be one of them. There are also players with other clubs that could fit that category who might be available to us, as well." Lastly, he explained, he could pursue a complementary player, with power from the right side, who fits in well with Jay Bruce, Curtis Granderson, Michael Conforto and Juan Lagares. He said, "someone like Steve Pearce, who is a free agent," is an example of this type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 7 hours ago, JohnJ said: I think it may change somewhat. Not as much as it should. And it has gotten better little by little. And I'm not writing off that there's a good chance Sandy may be able to add to the team, and that just because we sign Cespedes doesn't mean he'll settle for mediocrity otherwise, and have to dump a good player because of his salary, or not spend a little more for a real bonafide player, just because they sign an obvious, essential, no brainer piece, to help the team compete at all. I'm looking at how to make the team better. Not how to save the Coupons money because the poor bastards have to pay Cespedes. Or what scrubs we may or may not get something out of come the dog days of summer I'm expecting a higher payroll We shall see tho. I do not want to be the guy to defend the Wilsons, but they have taken the payroll up steadily the past 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 It’s that time of the year when we start seeing publications release their top prospects list and the first one this offseason is by Baseball Prospectus. Mets Top 10 Prospects (preseason rankings in parentheses): 1. Amed Rosario, SS (2) 2. Robert Gsellman, RHP (9) 3. Thomas Szapucki, LHP (NA) 4. Dominic Smith, 1B (5) 5. Desmond Lindsay, OF (7) 6. Justin Dunn, RHP (NA) 7. Andres Gimenez, SS (NA) 8. Brandon Nimmo, OF (6) 9. Gavin Cecchini, SS (4) 10. Wuilmer Becerra, OF (8) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 ^Nice to see Gsellman getting his due there. Hopefully as he starts to mature he can get his conditioning up. He faded after 5 like clockwork every start. That Szapucki kid made a bunch of headlines last year too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH THE PAIN Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 9 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Mets GM Sandy Alderson mentioned free-agent OF Jose Bautista and 1B-OF Steve Pearce as the type of players he might pursue if he's unable to re-sign Yoenis Cespedes. Steve Pearce ? Are they ******* kidding ? Why not Chico Escuela ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 9 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: I do not want to be the guy to defend the Wilsons, but they have taken the payroll up steadily the past 3 years Yup, it has. And I think it could go up more on top of Cespedes. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Bruce is gone either. I hope he's stays actually, btw. But that would be if Sandy can get us another top of the order guy with speed on top of Jose. There's a lot directions this could go, and I'm hoping it's better than juggling the same cast of characters we saw the last two summers. I don't think I could take another offensive drought over the summer again with some of those guys. They're role players, some of them, at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 6 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: It’s that time of the year when we start seeing publications release their top prospects list and the first one this offseason is by Baseball Prospectus. Mets Top 10 Prospects (preseason rankings in parentheses): 1. Amed Rosario, SS (2) 2. Robert Gsellman, RHP (9) 3. Thomas Szapucki, LHP (NA) 4. Dominic Smith, 1B (5) 5. Desmond Lindsay, OF (7) 6. Justin Dunn, RHP (NA) 7. Andres Gimenez, SS (NA) 8. Brandon Nimmo, OF (6) 9. Gavin Cecchini, SS (4) 10. Wuilmer Becerra, OF (8) More on this subject.....Rosario has matured significantly and he's getting closer possibly. THE guy to keep on eye this spring. Along with the Arms stable Mets protect Rosario, Molina, three other prospects from Rule 5 Draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, JohnJ said: More on this subject.....Rosario has matured significantly and he's getting closer possibly. THE guy to keep on eye this spring. Along with the Arms stable Mets protect Rosario, Molina, three other prospects from Rule 5 Draft Good to see the progress in the arms this season. The tank was thought empty, but a number of kids put themselves in favorable positions for the org. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 24 minutes ago, OH THE PAIN said: Steve Pearce ? Are they ******* kidding ? Why not Chico Escuela ? If we mixed you and Cat together in equal parts, I think we nay have a normal person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: If we mixed you and Cat together in equal parts, I think we nay have a normal person Or some thing that's really really scary.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH THE PAIN Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said: If we mixed you and Cat together in equal parts, I think we nay have a normal person Don't compare me to that lily livered , obnoxious , Cub front runner !!!!!!!!!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 14 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Again, Alderson isn't as smart as some people here, in terms of the current composition of his team: Alderson talks Plan A, B and C for adding a right-handed power hitter Mets GM Sandy Alderson mentioned free-agent OF Jose Bautista and 1B-OF Steve Pearce as the type of players he might pursue if he's unable to re-sign Yoenis Cespedes. Alderson told WOR 710 AM radio on Wednesday that he sees three ways to get right-handed power back in to the team's lineup next season. The first, he said, would be to bring back Cespedes, "who I put in a separate category." The second option, according to Alderson, would be to pursue a similar "significant hitter," "who would occupy quite a bit of playing time." "There are free agents out there and, I don't want to focus on any one, but there are free agents in that category," Alderson added. "Bautista would be one of them. There are also players with other clubs that could fit that category who might be available to us, as well." Lastly, he explained, he could pursue a complementary player, with power from the right side, who fits in well with Jay Bruce, Curtis Granderson, Michael Conforto and Juan Lagares. He said, "someone like Steve Pearce, who is a free agent," is an example of this type of player. Do you do anything here but look for the part that might agree with you if you ignore the whole piece? BTW: Quote Their second baseman is a switch hitter and is stronger from the left side Neil Walker 2016: vs. RHP - .266/.333/.433 vs. LHP - .330/.391/.610 What just a clod this guy is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 21 minutes ago, SenorGato said: What just a clod this guy is.... Lol hahahahahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Adam RubinESPN Staff Writer The Mets have added prospects Amed Rosario, Tomas Nido, Wuilmer Becerra, Chris Flexen and Marcos Molina to the 40-man roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Also you guys can not be respectful on here to other opinions instead of name calling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Bautista keeps coming up as an alternative to Cespedes by the media. IF by chance we don't get Ces back I'm not buying the Baustista talk and really prefer we don't go there. I don't follow Bautista closely and don't know about his health, but he did not look like the same guy to me the second half of last season and in the playoffs. No thanks. Fowler on the other hand would be a nice addition for CF. The only real CFer otherwise is Lagares. Lagares and Grandy would do tho this year. To me Conforto is not a CFer or RFer. If they thought Conforto was can't miss I don't think they would go all out for Ces. So at this point Conforto is losing some ground. I suppose they could try him in RF if they trade Bruce. But I'd rather see Bruce protecting Cespedes. Lotta possibilities and directions they could go. If The Coupons spent a little extra they could really solidify the roster and get the right people at the right positions in the lineup and in the field.....finally....... and stop this band aid approach with ill fitting pieces we've seen the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Bingo!!.....Will wait to see it confirmed to avoid the crash but it's lookin' good. Now it's time to tweek the rest of the roster and lineup Report: Cespedes to re-sign with Mets https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/report-cespedes-to-re-sign-with-mets/209499218 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 On November 8, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Scott Dierking said: It NEEDS to be done quickly, because many other decisions hinge on what happens with Cespedes. can't wait it out like last year. 4 years, $112m And, I wasn't far off. Cespedes in at $110m for 4 years. Great job Sandy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: And, I wasn't far off. Cespedes in at $110m for 4 years. Great job Sandy That is insane annual $$$. 100% worth it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 4 years, makes it easy to over pay annually. We should get good production in all 4.. We've paid guys close to 20 and got sh*t production.. I'll gladly fork over a bit more per and not have to go 5-7 years. He could've got more years but didn't want to leave NY.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 No brainer re-signing. Good move by the Mets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 My penis, it's hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH THE PAIN Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 57 minutes ago, JiF said: My penis, it's hard. Maybe Cespedes can use it as a pitching wedge . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 27 minutes ago, OH THE PAIN said: Maybe Cespedes can use it as a pitching wedge . Only in my dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 The justification of trading Michael Fulmer has been fully cemented now. Now, Can Bruce (or Grandson) bring back some relief help, catcher help or prospects? Mets are not too far off now. News today that Harvey is coming along great also. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Just in time for the winter meetings and now the fun starts in seeing how Sandy can tweak things. My wishlist: A top of the order guy with speed and youth, on top of Jose, to put pressure on the D. As far as I'm concerned there's no untouchables other than Rosario and whatever Sandy deems as the top of the Pitching staff. I really want to see Sandy add another quality player to our lineup and I don't care who goes........Grandy, Bruce, Conforto, Nimmo, Wilmer, a pitcher...I don't care lol Wishful thinking prolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RutgersJetFan Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Man, I am so happy. It would have been so Mets not to bring him back. Plus now I get to keep wearing my Yo Knows Beisbol shirt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Priority now has to be moving Bruce for a catcher. Supposedly the Jays want Bruce bad, I'd do Martin for Bruce straight up most definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 You know who else I like in the Mets' minor league system besides Rosario? Justin Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Man, I am so happy. It would have been so Mets not to bring him back. Plus now I get to keep wearing my Yo Knows Beisbol shirt. 5 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Priority now has to be moving Bruce for a catcher. Supposedly the Jays want Bruce bad, I'd do Martin for Bruce straight up most definitely. Ha...I thought the same thing about my two Cespedes shirts Yeah, we need a catcher too. d'Arnaud looked like a pussy out there last year. I'm anxious to see how they approach the position and if they try to rebuild d'Arnaud one last time. The market and it's fluidity will dictate Sandy's moves too tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, JohnJ said: Ha...I thought the same thing about my two Cespedes shirts Yeah, we need a catcher too. d'Arnaud looked like a pussy out there last year. I'm anxious to see how they approach the position and if they try to rebuild d'Arnaud one last time. The market and it's fluidity will dictate Sandy's moves too tho. Good for him if he can bring his bat around, but this team still has a window for the next couple years and he's such a liability on defense, I don't think that's something you can correct in just one offseason. I really don't trust him at all and think the Mets have to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Good for him if he can bring his bat around, but this team still has a window for the next couple years and he's such a liability on defense, I don't think that's something you can correct in just one offseason. I really don't trust him at all and think the Mets have to move on. Yeah, another year of what we saw last year would NOT be good enough. They gotta get that right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 All right this needed to be done Thanks sandy we needed that threat in the lineup he provides and everyone loves to play with him has shown he can handle playing in New York. like others said now upgrade catcher and relief pitching D'arnaud i soured on him last year injury prone and unproductive time to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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