Tyreek Hill Needs To Stop ...

[jgb]

 

7 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

In all honesty Miami has ridiculous speed all over the field with Waddle, Tyreek, and Raheem Mostert. They could be tough to slow down, hopefully Tua destroys the team 

Tua is very accurate in short and intermediate distances and as you have said, that offense is laden with dangerous speed in space. That’s a very bad matchup against a team with a suspect LB core…

[jeremy2020]

5 hours ago, KRL said:

Hill is a dynamic WR and one of the top playmakers in the game.  But this
nonsense he's putting out since moving to MIA is ridiculous.  When exactly
was he not used properly in KC?:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3116406/tyreek-hill

https://www.nfl.com/news/wr-tyreek-hill-on-kansas-city-exit-the-only-thing-i-care-about-is-respect-within

The talk in the two and a half months since the Kansas City Chiefs shipped Tyreek Hill's talents to South Beach has revolved around Hill's fit in the Miami Dolphins offense and Kansas City's approach to replacing the game-breaking wide receiver.

On the debut episode of his It Needed To Be Said podcast, Hill was happy to circle back and discuss what led to the dissolution of his relationship with the Chiefs in the first place.

"If teams are gonna give us favorable one-on-one matches against their best corner, I don't see why teams don't utilize their best receiver," Hill said, per Pro Football Talk. "And that's where probably like me and the Chiefs fell apart right there. When I'm like, 'Yo, I don't mean to talk or be a diva in some situation, but can I see the pill some time, please? Just give me the ball, please.' "

Hill's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, who appeared on the podcast, reiterated the feeling that Hill's talents were occasionally wasted by the Chiefs in 2021.

"There was a lot of times during the year that we felt that Tyreek was underutilized and wasn't fully appreciated, and that [the Chiefs] really weren't taking full advantage of all of his ability and talent," Rosenhaus said. "But Tyreek is a trooper. He never made a peep about it. He was extremely professional."

There's certainly no shortage of No. 1 wide receivers throughout NFL history who have perceived themselves as target-starved, but does Hill's claim have merit?

Hill had five games with five or fewer targets in 2021, compared with only one such game in 2020. However, he had 10 games with double-digit targets (three more than in 2020), surpassed 100 receptions for the first time in his career and recorded a career-high 159 targets (24 more than in 2020). In fact, he finished the 2021 campaign with the seventh-most targets in the NFL.

Although Hill had more offensive opportunities last year than ever before, those looks were much different than in previous seasons. Having earned the nickname "Cheetah," Hill has long been the league's foremost threat at blowing the top off an opposing defense. But last year, he recorded his shortest average route depth (12.6 yards) since 2017 and had his lowest air yards per target (10.4) since his rookie season, according to Next Gen Stats. His yards per reception dropped to 11.2 -- more than four yards off his average between 2017-2020.

The diminished big-play capacity was a byproduct of defenses catering to the Chiefs' deep-passing offense by playing two-high safeties and forcing quarterback Patrick Mahomes to operate underneath. In the short term, the approach gave the Chiefs fits. Given the club's offseason moves, the long-term effect may have been a reprioritization of its offensive attack, which left Kansas City unwilling to meet Hill's contract wishes.

"I tried my best," Hill said. "I talked to the big man, (head coach) Andy Reid. I talked to the quarterback. I'm like, 'Look, can we make something happen? Can we make something happen? Can the guaranteed money make sense to me? Can it make sense to my family, please?' "

In the end, the money made the most sense elsewhere. The Chiefs traded Hill for five draft picks and opted to bolster their WR corps with JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Hill received a four-year extension from Miami worth $120 million with $72.2 million guaranteed and what he perceives as a greater degree of respect.

"I don't care about notoriety, though," Hill said. "I don't care about none of that. The only thing I care about is respect within the building. Notoriety outside the building, I don't care about none of that, man. Because none of that ain't gonna win us games on Sunday. … This is what I want inside the building. I want the head coach to know that on Sundays, that defenses fear Tyreek Hill. That's what I want the head coach to know. And the head coach do know that, though. He know that without the Cheetah on the field, he know that, 'Hey, Pat you're gonna have a long day today.'"

Both sides have expressed early optimism in charting new territory absent the other for the first time in seven years. Only time will tell whose grass springs up greener.

Didn't he literally have career highs in targets and receptions? I'm not sure how that equate to 'not using him'. KC made a smart decision. I predict Miami regrets that contract. 

[Ecuadorian Jet]

5 hours ago, KRL said:

Hill is a dynamic WR and one of the top playmakers in the game.  But this
nonsense he's putting out since moving to MIA is ridiculous.  When exactly
was he not used properly in KC?:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3116406/tyreek-hill

https://www.nfl.com/news/wr-tyreek-hill-on-kansas-city-exit-the-only-thing-i-care-about-is-respect-within

The talk in the two and a half months since the Kansas City Chiefs shipped Tyreek Hill's talents to South Beach has revolved around Hill's fit in the Miami Dolphins offense and Kansas City's approach to replacing the game-breaking wide receiver.

On the debut episode of his It Needed To Be Said podcast, Hill was happy to circle back and discuss what led to the dissolution of his relationship with the Chiefs in the first place.

"If teams are gonna give us favorable one-on-one matches against their best corner, I don't see why teams don't utilize their best receiver," Hill said, per Pro Football Talk. "And that's where probably like me and the Chiefs fell apart right there. When I'm like, 'Yo, I don't mean to talk or be a diva in some situation, but can I see the pill some time, please? Just give me the ball, please.' "

Hill's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, who appeared on the podcast, reiterated the feeling that Hill's talents were occasionally wasted by the Chiefs in 2021.

"There was a lot of times during the year that we felt that Tyreek was underutilized and wasn't fully appreciated, and that [the Chiefs] really weren't taking full advantage of all of his ability and talent," Rosenhaus said. "But Tyreek is a trooper. He never made a peep about it. He was extremely professional."

There's certainly no shortage of No. 1 wide receivers throughout NFL history who have perceived themselves as target-starved, but does Hill's claim have merit?

Hill had five games with five or fewer targets in 2021, compared with only one such game in 2020. However, he had 10 games with double-digit targets (three more than in 2020), surpassed 100 receptions for the first time in his career and recorded a career-high 159 targets (24 more than in 2020). In fact, he finished the 2021 campaign with the seventh-most targets in the NFL.

Although Hill had more offensive opportunities last year than ever before, those looks were much different than in previous seasons. Having earned the nickname "Cheetah," Hill has long been the league's foremost threat at blowing the top off an opposing defense. But last year, he recorded his shortest average route depth (12.6 yards) since 2017 and had his lowest air yards per target (10.4) since his rookie season, according to Next Gen Stats. His yards per reception dropped to 11.2 -- more than four yards off his average between 2017-2020.

The diminished big-play capacity was a byproduct of defenses catering to the Chiefs' deep-passing offense by playing two-high safeties and forcing quarterback Patrick Mahomes to operate underneath. In the short term, the approach gave the Chiefs fits. Given the club's offseason moves, the long-term effect may have been a reprioritization of its offensive attack, which left Kansas City unwilling to meet Hill's contract wishes.

"I tried my best," Hill said. "I talked to the big man, (head coach) Andy Reid. I talked to the quarterback. I'm like, 'Look, can we make something happen? Can we make something happen? Can the guaranteed money make sense to me? Can it make sense to my family, please?' "

In the end, the money made the most sense elsewhere. The Chiefs traded Hill for five draft picks and opted to bolster their WR corps with JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling.

Hill received a four-year extension from Miami worth $120 million with $72.2 million guaranteed and what he perceives as a greater degree of respect.

"I don't care about notoriety, though," Hill said. "I don't care about none of that. The only thing I care about is respect within the building. Notoriety outside the building, I don't care about none of that, man. Because none of that ain't gonna win us games on Sunday. … This is what I want inside the building. I want the head coach to know that on Sundays, that defenses fear Tyreek Hill. That's what I want the head coach to know. And the head coach do know that, though. He know that without the Cheetah on the field, he know that, 'Hey, Pat you're gonna have a long day today.'"

Both sides have expressed early optimism in charting new territory absent the other for the first time in seven years. Only time will tell whose grass springs up greener.

Tyrek Hill and most WRs:

[FloridaJetsFan]

This has a distinct Terrell Owens/Donovan McNabb scent to it ...

[THE BARON]

4 hours ago, slats said:

Tyreek Hill is a PoS girlfriend/wife/child abuser. I would’ve tried to put that aside if the Jets had landed him, but I doubt I really could’ve. Similar to Michael Vick, who can still go **** himself. I’m glad the Jets helped to raise the price of what Miami had to pay to get him, and KC is probably thrilled to be done with him, too. I can’t imagine this guy’s career not ending in some sort of dramatic implosion. 
 
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/07/19/chiefs-tyreek-hill-domestic-assault-child-abuse-timeline-no-suspension-decision

Same for me, especially the Mike Vick part.  That was the move that compelled me to ditch my third generation season tickets.  

[TuscanyTile2]

7 hours ago, KRL said:

My prediction is before the end of September Hill will have one of the
following "blow ups" with Tua:

- He'll say something in the media
- He'll have a verbal altercation on the sideline
- He'll throw his helmet
- Or after running a deep route he'll throw up his hands in disgust

I'm very confident you'lll be proven correct on this prediction.

[nycdan]

This is fun.

https://www.nfl.com/videos/james-jones-there-is-nothing-that-tagovailoa-does-better-than-mahomes

"There is nothing....let me say it again...there is *nothing* that Tua does better than Patrick Mahomes"

Sanity returns.

[Maynard13]

On 6/13/2022 at 8:31 AM, Copernicus said:

I said it then and I will say it now: Thank god we didnt trade for this player. Toxic 

But what does that say about JD who went hard for Hill? HD was desperate for a WR. So many reasons why this was a dumb attempt by JD. No way I want this Antonio Brown clone. Watch him FLOP in Miami with noodle arm Tua. It’s gonna be post game circus ?. 

[Maynard13]

47 minutes ago, nycdan said:

This is fun.

https://www.nfl.com/videos/james-jones-there-is-nothing-that-tagovailoa-does-better-than-mahomes

"There is nothing....let me say it again...there is *nothing* that Tua does better than Patrick Mahomes"

Sanity returns.

Well he does have a cooler name Tua Tagovailoa - that’s a pretty cool name. Mahomes is eerily similar to Mahon which means poop ? in Spanish.