Maxman Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 The Yankees have organizational limits on younger pitchers innings, Girardi or any other manager would have to accept this before they take the job. Girardi should get the job. Mattingly seems to be a Torre clone. A border line hall of famer as a player that makes the hall of fame because of excellent managing? Wow, sign me up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 How many of the switches that you mentioned resulted in a World Championship? What about Martin to Lemon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 What about Martin to Lemon? Cmon man. Don't help Barton out. He doesn't know anything about Bob Lemon. Lemon was managing for a week when it was announced that Billy was coming back. Billy's spirit guided that team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 How many of the switches that you mentioned resulted in a World Championship? Considering all those switches I mentioned have been made in the last year or two.....what did you expect? All 3 teams got better, btw. And what about Casey Stengel getting canned after a long 12 year run (with multiple titles just like Torre) and being replaced by Ralph Houk. Houk went on to win the next 2 titles for the Yankees. That worked out pretty good eh? Sometimes it is just time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Considering all those switches I mentioned have been made in the last year or two.....what did you expect? All 3 teams got better, btw. And what about Casey Stengel getting canned after a long 12 year run (with multiple titles just like Torre) and being replaced by Ralph Houk. Houk went on to win the next 2 titles for the Yankees. That worked out pretty good eh? Sometimes it is just time for a change. I was born and became a Yankee fan during the Ralph Houck years. That was a special time, all right, missing the playoffs all those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 What i don't get is they completely low blow Joe Torre but Cashman comes out unscathed!?!!? How does cashman stay if Torre goes? Brown, Igawa, Pavano, Farnsworth, Giambi...how is joe responsible for these signings? Cashman is the new Teflon Don. Torre deserved a 2 yr 13mil deal at the very least. As a mets fan I can't believe torre is gone. He was a classy guy and literally transformed the Yankee aura from one of crappiness to one of classiness. Those of you who remember the 1982-1995 Yankees know what I am talking about.... LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I was born and became a Yankee fan during the Ralph Houck years. That was a special time, all right, missing the playoffs all those years. If the yankees make the playoffs or not will have MUCH more to do with Cashman than whoever the manager is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 What i don't get is they completely low blow Joe Torre but Cashman comes out unscathed!?!!? How does cashman stay if Torre goes? Brown, Igawa, Pavano, Farnsworth, Giambi...how is joe responsible for these signings? Cashman is the new Teflon Don. Torre deserved a 2 yr 13mil deal at the very least. As a mets fan I can't believe torre is gone. He was a classy guy and literally transformed the Yankee aura from one of crappiness to one of classiness. Those of you who remember the 1982-1995 Yankees know what I am talking about.... LL The work Cashman has done rebuilding the farm system saved him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I was born and became a Yankee fan during the Ralph Houck years. That was a special time, all right, missing the playoffs all those years. THE POINT IS - Stengel was a HOF manager, like Torre. But his time had run up and a change was needed. And the Yankees instantly won right after they got rid of him. Again, what has Torre done the last 5 years with his teams? Nothing. Simply making the playoffs with those teams he's had the last 5 years is a job any manager in baseball can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 What i don't get is they completely low blow Joe Torre but Cashman comes out unscathed!?!!? How does cashman stay if Torre goes? Brown, Igawa, Pavano, Farnsworth, Giambi...how is joe responsible for these signings? Cashman is the new Teflon Don. Torre deserved a 2 yr 13mil deal at the very least. As a mets fan I can't believe torre is gone. He was a classy guy and literally transformed the Yankee aura from one of crappiness to one of classiness. Those of you who remember the 1982-1995 Yankees know what I am talking about.... LL It's a fair question, but I think all those moves came from the Tampa "braintrust." Cashman only gained real power this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 The work Cashman has done rebuilding the farm system saved him. LOL...that's the scouts not Cashman....in fact one scout I believe pegged both Hughes and Kennedy. Cashman's only good moves of late was not trading any prospects and the jury is out on that decision until we see how these pitchers pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 THE POINT IS - Stengel was a HOF manager, like Torre. But his time had run up and a change was needed. And the Yankees instantly won right after they got rid of him. Again, what has Torre done the last 5 years with his teams? Nothing. Simply making the playoffs with those teams he's had the last 5 years is a job any manager in baseball can do. Really? Dealing with Arod's sensitivity Dealing with Giambi's Roid use Dealing with 1st base period... lol Those alone wipe out half the managers... Torre held the team together... its not easy to keep a bunch of over-paid veterans happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 LOL...that's the scouts not Cashman....in fact one scout I believe pegged both Hughes and Kennedy. Cashman's only good moves of late was not trading any prospects and the jury is out on that decision until we see how these pitchers pan out. The real credit should go to Damon Oppenheimer but Cashman will get it because he's the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 The real credit should go to Damon Oppenheimer but Cashman will get it because he's the GM. Yeah that's the guy. He was apparently falling out of favor with the org until these kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Yeah that's the guy. He was apparently falling out of favor with the org until these kids. The first draft he ran produced Phil Hughes so i don't see him falling out of favor anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 cashman has one year left thats why he's here. lets go Don or Joe G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 LOL...that's the scouts not Cashman....in fact one scout I believe pegged both Hughes and Kennedy. Cashman's only good moves of late was not trading any prospects and the jury is out on that decision until we see how these pitchers pan out. who hired those scouts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidhuman Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 who hired those scouts? www.monster.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 www.monster.com lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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