Irish Jet Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I'm not sure about Aikman, but, Peyton always showed flashes of something. And I had always thought Eli did too, before everyone shouted me down and I stupidly gave into peer pressure. I've seen something in Tarvaris Jackson as well, hence why I am not so quick to write him off as everyone else apparently is, especially since I learned my lesson from the Eli Manning mistake. I've never seen a thing out of Alex Smith, David Carr or JP Loserman. I have yet to see anything out of KC, but I've only see him play that Thanksgiving game as I was out of town that year. From TC reports and other things, I don't have much hope in KC. But apparently, Ratliff is a different story. You gotta SHOW something. Right now it just doesn't seem like there is anything in KC. Speaking of "it" factor, I really like Derek Anderson, even though IJ hates him. If Cleveland is stupid enough to get rid of Anderson and go with Quinn, Anderson might not be a bad idea. I don't hate him, I just think he's overrated due to a great sitaution. Most QB's would look great with the weapons and protection he has to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 But technically, he was the Jets' primary QB in 7 games, over which the Jets were 3-4. some of those games they won despite Clemens. He stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 some of those games they won despite Clemens. He stinks. I'm not disputing that, but teams win lots of games despite their QB's ineptitude. And lose lots of games despite the QB doing well. Should a stat line of 9-of-21 for 123 yards, with 0 TD's and 2 INT's, be good enough for your team to win a superbowl? No. But Roethlisberger still has a Superbowl ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 Obviously, to some degree, the coaches agree or Clemens would not be here. I hope you are right, but I seriously doubt it It's 50/50 KC makes the team this year Wouldn't be suprised the least if they cut bait now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 hah no problem JonE we both can see the IT factor you probably see it all the time up close at Clemson Remember this name This name will stick out like a sore thumb Da'Quan Bowers Barring injuries, will be one of the greats to ever come out of Clemson. True Freshman:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 I agree - people who think Farve will be teaching anyone to do anything besides make a funny fart joke doesn't know Farve. But since we are talking about IT factor - good news Jets fans - Brett Ratliff has the IT Factor. It took awhile, but many posters who shall remain nameless on here finally get what "it" is:Nuts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 I second the above. Once he got cut and teams were lining up for Chad's services, even at this late date, they had to invent something to cover up how wrong they were proven to be. Problem is...this guy you agreed with IS a Chadbasher:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeniemeanie Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Actually, that is a totally ridiculous assertion when you consider Clemens is only entering his third season in the league and has a whopping 8 games of starting experience, where as Harrington, has been given numerous chances to be a starter, on several different teams and has proven he completely sucks everywhere he has went. A very outlandish assertion indeed. I once had suggested a very outlandish insertion. My wife wouldn't come anywhere near shampoo bottles for months. Sorry for the interlude, continue as you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Remember this name This name will stick out like a sore thumb Da'Quan Bowers Barring injuries, will be one of the greats to ever come out of Clemson. True Freshman:cheers: he's already been blogged several times, the guy is basically best freshman DE in country from what people are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I once had suggested a very outlandish insertion. My wife wouldn't come anywhere near shampoo bottles for months. Sorry for the interlude, continue as you were. Pretty funny greenie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Kellen >> Chad .....I still feel the same way about this, Your Boy Chad got released But I will admit that I didn't see Ratliff breaking out and Bumping Kellen to the 3rd Qb on the depth Chart Just because he threw two Bomb's in a preseason Game.I still have faith In "The Kid". Chad is gone and you are still trying to compare them..Got news for you Mikey, Chad is gone instead of KC because of the $6 mill cleared for Favres contract, not because KC was playing better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Chad is gone and you are still trying to compare them..Got news for you Mikey, Chad is gone instead of KC because of the $6 mill cleared for Favres contract, not because KC was playing better.. Mangini's philosophy is to keep the best players on the 53 man roster, "The best players that give us the best chance to win will play." Chad could have easily been restructured if the team really felt he was the better QB and they could have released Clemens. Obviously that was not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Mangini's philosophy is to keep the best players on the 53 man roster, "The best players that give us the best chance to win will play." Chad could have easily been restructured if the team really felt he was the better QB and they could have released Clemens. Obviously that was not the case. not true A-Rod...why would Chad re-structure again anyway? Cutting Clemens would have meant cutting at least one other player also. It has been written here that KC wasn't showing anything in camp AGAIN...Even with Chads $6 mill off the books, Tannebaum has said we are tight on the cap now. There was no choice but to cut the big $$$'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 not true A-Rod...why would Chad re-structure again anyway? Cutting Clemens would have meant cutting at least one other player also. It has been written here that KC wasn't showing anything in camp AGAIN...Even with Chads $6 mill off the books, Tannebaum has said we are tight on the cap now. There was no choice but to cut the big $$$'s If given the opportunity, I think Chad would have gladly restructured his contract (rather than be released outright) because he flat out sucked last season and he knew it. But I can see your point as well as far as clearing CAP space for Favre. The bottom line is we are a better team with Favre, Clemens and Ratliff and without Pennington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If given the opportunity, I think Chad would have gladly restructured his contract (rather than be released outright) because he flat out sucked last season and he knew it. But I can see your point as well as far as clearing CAP space for Favre. The bottom line is we are a better team with Favre, Clemens and Ratliff and without Pennington. nice Cuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If given the opportunity, I think Chad would have gladly restructured his contract (rather than be released outright) because he flat out sucked last season and he knew it. Maybe yes, maybe no. Depends on how much the Jets would be willing to give him on that restructuring. I do believe Chad would much prefer being a starter on another team to being a backup with the Jets, if the money were anywhere near equal. There was no time to discuss restructuring. Contrary to some fans here, the Jets knew that Chad did have some respect around the league as a starting QB and knew he would be alright when they cut him, that teams would want him. So they pulled the trigger on Favre, and knew that Pennington would end up in a good place-probably a better place than benchwarmer behind a Hall of Famer. The bottom line is we are a better team with Favre, Clemens and Ratliff and without Pennington. I can surely agree that Favre, Clemens and Ratliff is far better than Pennington, Clemens and Ratliff or Clemens, Pennington and Ratliff. I have difficulty understanding how you figure this fact translates into Clemens, Pennington and Ratliff is better than Pennington, Clemens and Ratliff. I don't see the connection. In fact, right now I don't see much of anything, I'm feeling kind of dizzy....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Wow, didn't see that he was demoted. Kellen really looks like a bust in the making. 2nd rd pick a bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 2nd rd pick a bust? In the ongoing "get rid of Pennington" hysteria, some fans decided to pretend that a 2nd round pick is the automatic "future", when in fact only the first round pick gets that status. The line went, "You might as well go to Kellen now because Pennington can't get us to the SuperBowl and the changeover to Clemens became inevitable as soon as you chose him as high as the second round". In truth, if a second rounder gets the starting job, it's because he earned it in practice and preseason, not because he was so impressive in college that the team expected him to be the starter the day they drafted him. The first round pick gets treated like that, not the second round pick. I'm not saying that Irish Jet endorsed that reasoning, but many fans have convinced themselves of this and you need to deal with that belief in your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I have difficulty understanding how you figure this fact translates into Clemens, Pennington and Ratliff is better than Pennington, Clemens and Ratliff. I don't see the connection. In fact, right now I don't see much of anything, I'm feeling kind of dizzy....... You made me dizzy with that paragraph because I have no idea what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 nice Cuda Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 not true A-Rod...why would Chad re-structure again anyway? Cutting Clemens would have meant cutting at least one other player also. It has been written here that KC wasn't showing anything in camp AGAIN...Even with Chads $6 mill off the books, Tannebaum has said we are tight on the cap now. There was no choice but to cut the big $$$'s We could have cut McCareins. That would have cleared up most of the $6M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Chad is gone and you are still trying to compare them..Got news for you Mikey, Chad is gone instead of KC because of the $6 mill cleared for Favres contract, not because KC was playing better.. This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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