The New Draft Chart A Lot Of Teams Are Now Using

[SoFlaJets]

I figured Sperm Edwards would want to see this-he's wonky like that and likes these kinds of thing-so here ya go SE...

1st Rd 2nd Rd 3rd Rd 4th Rd 5th Rd 6th Rd 7th Rd

1 2,000 33 570 65 265 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14.2

2 1,900 34 560 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 26.6 194 13.8

3 1,825 35 550 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26.2 195 13.4

4 1,750 36 540 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 25.8 196 13

5 1,675 37 530 69 245 101 96 133 39.5 165 25.4 197 12.6

6 1,635 38 520 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12.2

7 1,570 39 510 71 235 103 88 135 38.5 167 24.6 199 11.8

8 1,505 40 500 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24.2 200 11.4

9 1,440 41 490 73 225 105 84 137 37.5 169 23.8 201 11

10 1,375 42 480 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23.4 202 10.6

11 1,320 43 470 75 215 107 80 139 36.5 171 23 203 10.2

12 1,275 44 460 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 22.6 204 9.8

13 1,230 45 450 77 205 109 76 141 35.5 173 22.2 205 9.4

14 1,185 46 440 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 21.8 206 9

15 1,140 47 430 79 195 111 72 143 34.5 175 21.4 207 8.6

16 1,110 48 420 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8.2

17 1,070 49 410 81 185 113 68 145 33.5 177 20.6 209 7.8

18 1,040 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20.2 210 7.4

19 1,010 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 32.6 179 19.8 211 7

20 980 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32.2 180 19.4 212 6.6

21 945 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 31.8 181 19 213 6.2

22 920 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31.4 182 18.6 214 5.8

23 895 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18.2 215 5.4

24 870 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 30.6 184 17.8 216 5

25 845 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 30.2 185 17.4 217 4.6

26 820 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 29.8 186 17 218 4.2

27 795 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 29.4 187 16.6 219 3.8

28 770 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 29 188 16.2 220 3.4

29 745 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 28.6 189 15.8 221 3

30 720 62 284 94 124 126 46 158 28.2 190 15.4 222 2.6

31 695 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 27.8 191 15 223 2.3

32 670 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 27.4 192 14.6 224 2

[Ghost]

That's very hard to read.

[SoFlaJets]

That's very hard to read.

not really Ghost-it's actually well done-the draft pick is the 1st number and the number next is the rating through the point system. I was gonna use the BOLD feature but it would have been a real PITA and once you look at it you realize that it's pretty easy to decipher.

For instance our pick @ #17 is worth 1,070 points

[Stonehands]

The "real" draft chart would have the value peak at about pick number 5 and actually decline for picks 4-3-2 and 1. In the real world, unless the second coming of Elway is coming out, no one wants number 1.

[Green DNA]

I'm not sure I agree with the numbers on line 22

[war ensemble]

not really Ghost-it's actually well done-the draft pick is the 1st number and the number next is the rating through the point system. I was gonna use the BOLD feature but it would have been a real PITA and once you look at it you realize that it's pretty easy to decipher.

For instance our pick @ #17 is worth 1,070 points

It's hard to read when posted in pure text. If formatted on a website or as a chart, it would be easier to see. The farther right you go, the more cluttered it looks. I don't think I agree with this chart either, because most teams don't want that #1 pick because the money it entails. Unless there's that one guy they're going for.

[Aten]

It's hard to read when posted in pure text. If formatted on a website or as a chart, it would be easier to see. The farther right you go, the more cluttered it looks. I don't think I agree with this chart either, because most teams don't want that #1 pick because the money it entails. Unless there's that one guy they're going for.

It was posted on PFT before the draft last April. Three guesses why the date was omitted, but if you need more than one you're an idiot.

[Thai Jet]

The "real" draft chart would have the value peak at about pick number 5 and actually decline for picks 4-3-2 and 1. In the real world, unless the second coming of Elway is coming out, no one wants number 1.

Good point. Can you blame anyone ? Hugh bucks for a lot of bust potential.

[124]

So by viewing that, we should be able to jump up to the 8th or 9th selection by using our 1st and our 2nd if we want to select a fallen QB (Stafford or Sanchez) or WR (Maclin or Crabtree).

Interesting.

[Blackout]

not really Ghost-it's actually well done-the draft pick is the 1st number and the number next is the rating through the point system. I was gonna use the BOLD feature but it would have been a real PITA and once you look at it you realize that it's pretty easy to decipher.

For instance our pick @ #17 is worth 1,070 points

don't mind him he's just illiterate lol

[Thai Jet]

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[Sperm Edwards]

It was posted here last year. I don't think any teams are using it; just that it was an alternate idea from Florio whose opinions don't garner the respect of many.

The issue I had with it was Florio's small-minded need for "evenness" to go from about zero at pick #224 to an even 2000 for the #1 pick. To accommodate this, he did the same thing JJ did with the current "standard" chart: by the time you reach the end, you're decreasing values in decimals and you have to change the rate at which picks decrease as you go down based on having enough "room" to get to the last pick rather than how much the dropoff should actually be in a pick's value.

Even done the way Florio did, the day-2 picks run out of value more than he accounts for since there are compensatory picks added in every year. Florio doesn't account for them since his chart only goes up to 7 rounds x 32 picks & then ends at zero. In his little world, there are no compensatory picks ever. It's not that you need to know the trade value of a comp pick (since they can't be traded), but he presumably agonized over how many tenths to step-down this pick or that pick in order to end up at a number greater than zero with pick #224. Here's the problem: by the time you reach the 10th pick in the round, you're already down to zero. It may sound nitpicky, and probably is, but teams include 7th round picks in trades all the time. They don't have a lot of value, but it isn't zero or no one would be throwing them in.

The way to come up with a good value chart is not to start at a number like 2000 or 3000 and work your way down to zero (or two in this case), but rather to start with the LIKELY last pick by assuming 20-25 compensatory picks in rounds 3-6, give THAT a value of like 10 (leaving a little wiggle-room) and then working your way up to the THEORETICAL last pick (#224). From there, count up how many points you want to jump in WHOLE numbers as you move higher. If your top pick ends up being 3871 "points" then so be it. At that point you can then add 129 to the end to make the #1 pick a nice, even 4000 and the last pick would be worth 139.

But trying to start at an even number & work your way down to about zero requires the author of the chart to tinker with the value of draft picks to make up for the symmetry he's pigeon-holed himself into.

[LionelRichie]

The way to come up with a good value chart is not to start at a number like 2000 or 3000 and work your way down to zero (or two in this case), but rather to start with the LIKELY last pick by assuming 20-25 compensatory picks in rounds 3-6, give THAT a value of like 10 (leaving a little wiggle-room) and then working your way up to the THEORETICAL last pick (#224).

i think that is generally the right approach. but rather than starting with an arbitrary value for the last pick, i think the right way to do it would be to look at the trades made over the last 3-5 years and start to pencil in value that way.

if i give you $1,000 for your car then your car is worth $1,000 regardless of what kelly blue book says. the only way to determine a value chart is to look at the market for picks itself and then try to 'fit' the rest of the picks into some kind curve. it won't be perfect but it will reflect reality more than the current chart.