MagicBizkit87 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 I agree, however, Lee did a lot of dirty work throughout the playoffs. Sticking teams best players. I don't think Orlando will be a better defensive team. I think people underrate Tony Battie's defensive ability. Well if we get someone like Rasheed, or keep Gortat with us, and have them play key minutes the defense will still be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Well if we get someone like Rasheed, or keep Gortat with us, and have them play key minutes the defense will still be very good. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Believe it or not, I think the Nets can compete for a playoff spot in about two years. Devin Harris, Courtney Lee, and Brook Lopez. They need to acquire someone else, tho. I like their youth. I like it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 This is the East, every team in the entire east has a chance to make the playoffs. You have the likes of Orlando Boston Cleveland then you have the teams like this: Atlanta Miami Chicago then you have the lower seeded teams that could make it, like: Pistons Sixers Raptors Wizards Nets Knicks Charlotte I think any of those bottom seeds could fill out the 7th, and 8th positions with those 6 above them ahead in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KudosForND Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 This is the East, every team in the entire east has a chance to make the playoffs. You have the likes of Orlando Boston Cleveland then you have the teams like this: Atlanta Miami Chicago then you have the lower seeded teams that could make it, like: Pistons Sixers Raptors Wizards Nets Knicks Charlotte I think any of those bottom seeds could fill out the 7th, and 8th positions with those 6 above them ahead in the standings. Pacers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Its clear they're not trying to put a winning product on the court, its all about $$$. Im done wasting my time watching them. yeah but they are only a year away from all the big FAs. I can live w/ another crappy year as long as a)they don't get Redick in return and b)they don't draft that goon Gerald Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 yeah but they are only a year away from all the big FAs. I can live w/ another crappy year as long as a)they don't get Redick in return and b)they don't draft that goon Gerald Henderson. Yup. It was time for Carter to go, anyway. I just want no part of Redick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 When will people stop treating Vince Carter as if he is some sort of god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 When will people stop treating Vince Carter as if he is some sort of god? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 When will people stop treating Vince Carter as if he is some sort of god? Exactly. Carter is a ballhog. He sucks. The teams that he's on always suck also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Carter is a ballhog. He sucks. The teams that he's on always suck also. I won't say he sucks. I just think his jumping ability is what makes people think he's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I won't say he sucks. I just think his jumping ability is what makes people think he's good. It's no coincidence that the teams he's on always suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 It's no coincidence that the teams he's on always suck. He's been on only two teams. Lol The Nets made the playoffs with him and Kidd before. I think they lost to the Miami Heat, who ended up winning it all that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 On those teams he was on before, he was supposed to be the #1 option of those teams. He's most likely not the #1, or #2 option for this Orlando Magic team. He might be the #3, or #4 option... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 On those teams he was on before, he was supposed to be the #1 option of those teams. He's most likely not the #1, or #2 option for this Orlando Magic team. He might be the #3, or #4 option... lol It'll be interesting to see how he adjusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 This has to be about $$, Magic do not need another soft jump shooter that doesn't play defense.....if true, bad move for the Magic IMO. Agreed. Magic lose this trade..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Agreed. Magic lose this trade..... Nets win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 On those teams he was on before, he was supposed to be the #1 option of those teams. He's most likely not the #1, or #2 option for this Orlando Magic team. He might be the #3, or #4 option... lol He is the #2 option. Jameer Nelson is a PG. It will be Howard first, Carter second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 He is the #2 option. Jameer Nelson is a PG. It will be Howard first, Carter second. I would call him the third option, behind Jameer, and Howard. When everyone was healthy last year it was Jameer, and Howard, and I don't really see it changing. Carter is probably a little better then Turkolgu, but this is still Jameer, and Dwight's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 I see Lewis as a more prolific scorer than Vince. This trade sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Now I have absolutely no reason to watch the NETS. This is a class move by Rod Thorn. Carter has been a good soldier for this team, and Thorn knows that the they're going nowhere next year so he's giving Vince a c hance to end his career battling for a title. Class move. That said, the Nets will be tough to watch next year. TWill can't make his own shot, and Lee is not ready to be "the man," so it's going to be Devin Harris and Brook Lopez trying to score 50 between them--not a recipe for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 It's no coincidence that the teams he's on always suck. You guys have not watched the Nets the past three years if you think Carter is soft and is not a better player than Lewis. Lewis is not in the same universe as Vince, either in terms of ability or toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I would call him the third option, behind Jameer, and Howard. When everyone was healthy last year it was Jameer, and Howard, and I don't really see it changing. Carter is probably a little better then Turkolgu, but this is still Jameer, and Dwight's team. I think you overrate Nelson a little too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I think you overrate Nelson a little too much. How do you overrate an All-Star? The Jameer Nelson the Lakers saw is not the same one we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 You guys have not watched the Nets the past three years if you think Carter is soft and is not a better player than Lewis. Lewis is not in the same universe as Vince, either in terms of ability or toughness. Actually, I haven't watched the NBA for the past three years. I started to get back into it a little more with the BOS-LA final. Then, I watched almost every playoff game this year - so I'm back. So you're right about that, Tom, I've just never liked Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Actually, I haven't watched the NBA for the past three years. I started to get back into it a little more with the BOS-LA final. Then, I watched almost every playoff game this year - so I'm back. So you're right about that, Tom, I've just never liked Carter. It's all good. I was actuallt annoyed when the Nets pick him up originally because I had heard all the rumors about his pussiness and his selfish play, but he always played hard as a Net and initiated a ****load of contact on his drives to the baskets, even in meaningless games in February. The Magic have a legit star in Carter now, regardless of what they paid. That said, the NBA is in serious trouble. The Finals were awful, and the overall product sucks now. Gotta get rid of the zone and send the Europeans back to Europe. The sagging zone has turned the NBA into a jump shooting contest, and that is boring as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 It's all good. I was actuallt annoyed when the Nets pick him up originally because I had heard all the rumors about his pussiness and his selfish play, but he always played hard as a Net and initiated a ****load of contact on his drives to the baskets, even in meaningless games in February. The Magic have a legit star in Carter now, regardless of what they paid. That said, the NBA is in serious trouble. The Finals were awful, and the overall product sucks now. Gotta get rid of the zone and send the Europeans back to Europe. The sagging zone has turned the NBA into a jump shooting contest, and that is boring as it gets. Agreed about the product being awful now. That's why I stopped watching. In the early 2000's, you couldn't find a bigger NBA fan than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 It's all good. I was actuallt annoyed when the Nets pick him up originally because I had heard all the rumors about his pussiness and his selfish play, but he always played hard as a Net and initiated a ****load of contact on his drives to the baskets, even in meaningless games in February. The Magic have a legit star in Carter now, regardless of what they paid. That said, the NBA is in serious trouble. The Finals were awful, and the overall product sucks now. Gotta get rid of the zone and send the Europeans back to Europe. The sagging zone has turned the NBA into a jump shooting contest, and that is boring as it gets. Haha, good luck justifying that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Haha, good luck justifying that move. Kerry Rhodes tackles like a European. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 I think you overrate Nelson a little too much. He was really the sole reason we beat you guys the both times in the regular season, and I still believe if he were 100% healthy, this series would have been much closer, and could have gone in Orlando's direction. 50% FG percentage 45% 3pt FG percentage 88% FT percentage Career high in points How am I overrating the guy? It's not like Jameer is a fraud like Rajon Rondo. Jameer Nelson is actually really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 He was really the sole reason we beat you guys the both times in the regular season, and I still believe if he were 100% healthy, this series would have been much closer, and could have gone in Orlando's direction. 50% FG percentage 45% 3pt FG percentage 88% FT percentage Career high in points How am I overrating the guy? It's not like Jameer is a fraud like Rajon Rondo. Jameer Nelson is actually really good. I didn't say he's bad. I just think you overrate him. Orlando is going to be a Howard-Carter offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 I didn't say he's bad. I just think you overrate him. Orlando is going to be a Howard-Carter offense. I don't really think it's anyone offense to be honest. I think we've got 4 players on this team that could easily score 20 points every night. If anything it's a Howard-Carter-Jameer-Rashard offense... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I don't really think it's anyone offense to be honest. I think we've got 4 players on this team that could easily score 20 points every night. If anything it's a Howard-Carter-Jameer-Rashard offense... lol That's Orlando's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Agreed about the product being awful now. That's why I stopped watching. In the early 2000's, you couldn't find a bigger NBA fan than me. You were 7 then and your team (I think, you have a few) the Nets were in the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 That's Orlando's problem. That doesn't sound like much of a problem at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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