Otter Posted July 10, 2009 Author Share Posted July 10, 2009 Tonight's Yankees lineup. Cody Ransom is at short, Jeter is DH, Molina is catching. Albaladejo(sp?) sent down, Melancon called up. YANKEES (51-34) Jeter DH Damon LF Teixeira 1B Rodriguez 3B Swisher RF Cano 2B Cabrera CF Ransom SS Molina C Pitching: RHP Joba Chamberlain (4-2, 4.04). ANGELS (46-37) Figgins 3B Izturis 2B Abreu RF Rivera LF Morales 1B Napoli DH Matthews CF Mathis C Aybar SS Pitching: LHP Joe Saunders (8-5, 4.44). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Cody Ransom at short? Don't bother watching this game fellows, it'll only ruin your Friday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Nice start to this game for the Yanks. Got to capitalize in these situations against the Angels, especially with Joba pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Nice job Yanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I hate west coast night games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I hate west coast night games. +1 The whole 10:00 pm start time is lame, the games dont end until 1 :30 am. God forbid the game goes to extra innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Joba, They gave you a lead. Please don't **** it up. Your friend, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 +1 The whole 10:00 pm start time is lame, the games dont end until 1 :30 am. God forbid the game goes to extra innings. I don't mind it on weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Good start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Watching him pitch like a puzzy is infuriating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Seems Mr. 5 inning pitcher is at it again. Can't this guy have one good start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Joba, You suck as a starter. Get Clueless ****ing Joe to send you back to the pen. Your friend, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeebers Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Joba, You suck as a starter. Get Clueless ****ing Joe to send you back to the pen. Your friend, Bob I seriously doubt it is Girardi's call. Cashman is determined to prove to everyone that Joba is an Ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Bad f-ing loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Time to call Toronto... Joba Jackson Romine Do you think that's a good enough offer to start? Maybe add someone like Nova, or McCutchen as well? Maybe Melancon to finish off the deal if this guy has anymore talent anywhere in his body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Seems Mr. 5 inning pitcher is at it again. Can't this guy have one good start? Is that really the problem? He's being exposed by pitching so many innings? I don't watch enough Yankee games to comment but his lines in the box score have been terrible lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Is that really the problem? He's being exposed by pitching so many innings? I don't watch enough Yankee games to comment but his lines in the box score have been terrible lately. I don't think it's a matter of being exposed. I think his stuff just loses something after about three innings and they tee off on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanDoug Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Good matchup today. Pettite and Weaver. And because the cubs are the alternate game on Fox, I can't get it on any Fox station, so I'll watch Yanks/Angels and am spared the Cubs pain, at least live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Joba's arm will never be the same after he got hurt last year in Texas. He's damaged goods. My friends mother ran the MRI at Columbia Presbyterian last year on Joba and said he'll never get full strength back. Im starting to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 This really isn't a good matchup at all. Weaver is going to destroy us, and Pettitte is going to suck as usual. Really, it's obvious now, ever since that injury last year the only thing he's ever going to be able to do is relief pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Joba's arm will never be the same after he got hurt last year in Texas. He's damaged goods. My friends mother ran the MRI at Columbia Presbyterian last year on Joba and said he'll never get full strength back. Im starting to believe it. Even if that were true, he doesnt need the 97-98 mph fastball to dominate. He still sits at average on 93. This is not the problem. The problem is he's effectively a 2 pitch pitcher (cause he chooses to be) that's in love with his 4 seam fastball+slider combo. His curve is inconsistent as all hell and when he sees that he doesn't have it he ditches it and sticks to those two. I don't understand why he doesn't go to the changeup + 2 seamer more often to induce more groundouts. He's not happy unless he's striking out 20 guys a game. He doesn't have very good command of his fastball, on top of everything, so he's prone to lay some right over the plate. Doesn't help that his fastball is flat as all hell. He's got 4 pitches (5 if you count that two seamer he threw in the first game against Boston). He belongs as a starter, but he's gotta change his approach and start listening to his catcher(s). You know why every windup took so long last night? It's cause Molina was cycling through his pitches to figure out with Joba wanted. If it was Posada Joba would have just shook off everything because you have 2 stubborn people trying to take control of the game. So bottom line, Joba is a starter, end of story. He's got a plus curve and plus slider, and a decent changeup. His fastball is still hitting 94-95 consistently. He just needs to swallow his fat pride and realize that he can't work up his pitch count to 100 by the 4th inning trying to get swing and misses all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I seriously doubt it is Girardi's call. Cashman is determined to prove to everyone that Joba is an Ace. That sucks if that's the case. GM's should just let the managers manage. That's what you hired him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Bad f-ing loss Are there ever any good ones ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Even if that were true, he doesnt need the 97-98 mph fastball to dominate. He still sits at average on 93. This is not the problem. The problem is he's effectively a 2 pitch pitcher (cause he chooses to be) that's in love with his 4 seam fastball+slider combo. His curve is inconsistent as all hell and when he sees that he doesn't have it he ditches it and sticks to those two. I don't understand why he doesn't go to the changeup + 2 seamer more often to induce more groundouts. He's not happy unless he's striking out 20 guys a game. He doesn't have very good command of his fastball, on top of everything, so he's prone to lay some right over the plate. Doesn't help that his fastball is flat as all hell. He's got 4 pitches (5 if you count that two seamer he threw in the first game against Boston). He belongs as a starter, but he's gotta change his approach and start listening to his catcher(s). You know why every windup took so long last night? It's cause Molina was cycling through his pitches to figure out with Joba wanted. If it was Posada Joba would have just shook off everything because you have 2 stubborn people trying to take control of the game. So bottom line, Joba is a starter, end of story. He's got a plus curve and plus slider, and a decent changeup. His fastball is still hitting 94-95 consistently. He just needs to swallow his fat pride and realize that he can't work up his pitch count to 100 by the 4th inning trying to get swing and misses all the time. If Joba is choosing not to throw his other pitches, that tells me that he has no confidence in them. If he has no confidence then I don't want him throwing them either. Joba has had one big moment as a starter and that was in Fenway last year. He has shown me nothing since. The guy doesn't have the makeup to be a starter. He works too slowly and throws way too many pitches. The guy can barely even pitch long enought into a game to get a decision. In 29 career starts he only has 10 decisions. That is the fewest decisions for a pitcher through 29 starts in MLB history. The Yankees need to put him back in the bullpen where he excelled two years ago. I'm sure they stick with him in the rotation through the rest of this season, but come playoff time he'll be back in the pen where he belongs. I just hope that this experiment hasn't ruined his arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Seems like I wasn't too far off on my prediction for Joba's start. We'll see what Andy can do, if he can't deep into the game we lose this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yeah, I honestly don't see Jered Weaver having a bad start. This guy is nothing like his brother, he's actually pretty damn good. I don't honestly see how they win this game today, and really the only one they can win is tomorrow's game this series. They win this game, I honestly will be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 If Joba is choosing not to throw his other pitches, that tells me that he has no confidence in them. If he has no confidence then I don't want him throwing them either. Joba has had one big moment as a starter and that was in Fenway last year. He has shown me nothing since. The guy doesn't have the makeup to be a starter. He works too slowly and throws way too many pitches. The guy can barely even pitch long enought into a game to get a decision. In 29 career starts he only has 10 decisions. That is the fewest decisions for a pitcher through 29 starts in MLB history. The Yankees need to put him back in the bullpen where he excelled two years ago. I'm sure they stick with him in the rotation through the rest of this season, but come playoff time he'll be back in the pen where he belongs. I just hope that this experiment hasn't ruined his arm. I have said all along that he should be in the pen, so I agree with what you wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 And Andy starts to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 It's last night all over again, without the errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I knew this would happen. They just can't beat this team. Better hope they don't face them in the playoffs, of course after soon to be swept by the Angels, I don't even feel they can outlast Tampa anymore, and I highly doubt they even make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 These guys suck...but we can't find a way to beat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I friggin hate the Angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Yankees pitching is in the toilet today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Mike Napoli hit a go-ahead two-run double off Andy Pettitte during a seven-run fifth inning and added a solo homer in the seventh, leading the Los Angeles Angels to their second straight come-from-behind victory over the New York Yankees, 14-8 on Saturday. More... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Today's lineup. YANKEES (51-36) Gardner CF Jeter SS Teixeira 1B Rodriguez 3B Matsui DH Cano 2B Hinske RF Cabrera LF Molina C Pitching: LHP CC Sabathia (8-5, 3.70). ANGELS (48-37) Lineup TBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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