flgreen Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 2011 NFL organization rankings Adam Schein Bio | Email Adam Schein hosts the "Sirius Blitz" on Sirius NFL Radio from 11-3 ET. He also co-hosts "Loudmouths" on Sports Net New York every weeknight at 6 ET. He is a weekly columnist, files weekly video reports and makes NFL picks "video style" for FOXSports.com. Updated Jun 2, 2011 3:37 AM ET It is my favorite time of year. It is time once again for the annual NFL organization rankings on FOXSports.com. I was once challenged by an NFL head coach to “crunch the numbers” on what makes a “great” organization. This is the third year we’ve ranked every team. The New England Patriots, ranked No. 1 in 2009 and 2010, have been knocked off of the top spot. Remember, this is NOT a power ranking. We grade each team on six vital categories — owner, quarterback, head coach, front office, coaching staff and intangibles, which include facilities, fan support and public relations. I was surprised by many of the results. And there are way too many "bad teams" in the NFL. Enjoy the debate. 1. Green Bay Packers: 56 Owner: 9 Quarterback: 10 Coach: 8.5 Front office: 9.5 Coaching staff: 9 Intangibles: 10 Greenbay Packers Rankings The Super Bowl was vindication for general manager Ted Thompson. But truth be told, he never needed it. Thompson has the golden touch in assembling a young championship core with staying power. Mike McCarthy is a great coach. QB Aaron Rodgers took that major step up in class. CEO Mark Murphy is sharp and has the perfect demeanor and experience for this job. The Packers fans are amazing. 2. New Orleans Saints: 55.5 Owner: 9 Quarterback: 9.5 Coach: 8.5 Front office: 9.5 Coaching staff: 9 Intangibles: 10 Even during a work stoppage, the Saints have sold every ticket for next year. Owner Tom Benson has provided the club with stability and staying power in New Orleans. I never thought I would write that in 2004. Mickey Loomis is an aggressive, savvy general manager. Drew Brees is not only a great quarterback, but the ultimate team leader and representative in the community. 3. Pittsburgh Steelers: 55 Owner: 10 Quarterback: 8.5 Coach: 8.5 Front office: 9 Coaching staff: 9 Intangibles: 10 “Steelers Nation” factors heavily into the perfect score for intangibles as Pittsburgh seemingly plays 16 home games with its omnipresent fans. The Rooney family is outstanding. GM Kevin Colbert and his staff are smart and know how to pick players for their system. 4. New England Patriots: 54.5 Owner: 10 Quarterback: 10 Coach: 10 Front office: 8 Coaching staff: 8 Intangibles: 8.5 Chad Ochocinco TAKE A BREAK NFL players find new ways to pass the time without football. The Patriots, no surprise, totaled a perfect 30 points in the categories of owner, head coach and quarterback. Bill Belichick was the only head coach to get a 10. Defections through the years in the front office and the coaching staff prevented total perfection and contributed to the fall from the top spot they held in 2009 and 2010. 5. Philadelphia Eagles: 53.5 Owner: 9.5 Quarterback: 8 Coach: 9 Front office: 9 Coaching staff: 9 Intangibles: 9 Andy Reid, Joe Banner, Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie are excellent and united. Reid scored a coup when he hired Howard Mudd to coach the offensive line and Jim Washburn to coach the defensive line. The Eagles' public relations staff just gets it when it comes to the media, fans and players. 6. Indianapolis Colts: 51.5 Owner: 9.5 Quarterback: 10 Coach: 6 Front office: 10 Coaching staff: 6 Intangibles: 10 What owner Jim Irsay has done in Indy, from the beautiful new stadium to the consistency of the franchise over the last 10 years, is remarkable. Bill Polian is the best general manager in football. Even without Tom Moore and Howard Mudd, John Teerlink helps the grade for the coaching staff. Jim Caldwell wins but surely doesn’t dazzle as a game coach. Peyton Manning is still Peyton Manning. 7. New York Giants: 50 Owner: 9 Quarterback: 8 Coach: 7.5 Front office: 8.5 Coaching staff: 7 Intangibles: 10 The Giants didn’t cut anyone’s pay during the lockout. The Giants treated their season ticket holders with respect during the work stoppage. Owner John Mara and company deserve a lot of credit. 8. Atlanta Falcons: 49.5 Owner: 9 Quarterback: 8.5 Coach: 8 Front office: 9 Coaching staff: 7.5 Intangibles: 7.5 Head coach Mike Smith, GM Thomas Dimitroff and QB Matt Ryan are the ideal men as head coach, general manager and quarterback to lead the Falcons. 9. Baltimore Ravens: 48 Owner: 9.5 Quarterback: 7 Coach: 8 Front office: 9.5 Coaching staff: 5 Intangibles: 9 Ozzie Newsome and Eric DeCosta head a brilliant front office that is seemingly always a few steps ahead. What coach John Harbaugh has accomplished in a short period of time is incredible. He never gets the credit he deserves. Steve Bisciotti is a great owner. Give him credit for changing his mind on cutting the pay of employees during the lockout. The Ravens' public relations department is excellent, both media and player friendly. The coaching staff has taken some hits. 10. New York Jets: 46.5 Owner: 8 Quarterback: 7 Coach: 8 Front office: 9 Coaching staff: 8.5 Intangibles: 6 Coach Rex Ryan has successfully changed the culture with the Jets. The "same old Jets" are buried, replaced by Ryan's boastful guarantees. Mike Tannenbaum is an active and creative general manager who has built teams that have gone to the AFC title game in back-to-back years. QB Mark Sanchez, while still erratic at times, is a proven winner just two years into the league, with a whopping four playoff wins on the road. The facilities in Florham Park, N.J., are beautiful. The Jets' act of cutting salaries of football operations employees and imposing mandatory furloughs during the lockout is ugly. 11. Kansas City Chiefs: 41.5 Owner: 6 Quarterback: 6 Coach: 6 Front office: 9.5 Coaching staff: 8 Intangibles: 6 LET'S KICK IT Your team may be painful to watch, but these cheerleaders are easy on the eyes. The Chiefs at 11? How about that? Look mom, I’m on TV! The Chiefs have four primetime games this year, showing that they are back in business. Scott Pioli is a great general manager. Todd Haley did a great job last year as head coach, but needs to learn not to be so aggressive on fourth down while in field-goal range. And with Charlie Weis out, it is going to be interesting to watch the Haley/Matt Cassel relationship. 12. Seattle Seahawks: 37.5 Owner: 7 Quarterback: 2 Coach: 6 Front office: 7 Coaching staff: 6 Intangibles: 9.5 The facilities are state of the art. The home-field advantage with the “12th man” is significant. Coach Pete Carroll and GM John Schneider inherited a total mess. They were super-active last season, bringing in different combinations of players, leading to a street free-agent gem like Mike Williams. Hiring Tom Cable to coach the offensive line was a great move. Seattle, finally, has a good structure in place. 13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 37 Owner: 4 Quarterback: 8 Coach: 7 Front office: 8 Coaching staff: 5 Intangibles: 5 One year ago, I bashed Tampa’s direction. The Bucs proved me wrong. Head coach Raheem Morris and GM Mark Dominik are good at what they do. I think young QB Josh Freeman could one day win a league MVP. He is that type of clutch player and leader. Tampa gets knocked down on owner and intangibles. Fans aren’t happy they once again lose a home game to a game in London. And there still is a lack of public trust in ownership. 14. Chicago Bears: 37 Owner: 6 Quarterback: 6 Coach: 6 Front office: 6 Coaching staff: 4.5 Intangibles: 8.5 Last year I blasted the Bears assistant coaching staff. For the first half of the season, offensive coordinator Mike Martz proved me correct. Then he remembered to run the ball. Now let’s see it for a full year. 15. Dallas Cowboys: 37 Owner: 8 Quarterback: 7 Coach: 4 Front office: 4 Coaching staff: 5 Intangibles: 9 The Cowboys’ new stadium is epic. Jerry Jones the owner is a marketing genius. Jerry Jones the general manager is a borderline failure. 16. Arizona Cardinals: 36 Owner: 5 Quarterback: 4 Coach: 8 Front office: 9 Coaching staff: 6 Intangibles: 4 The Cards cut pay for employees across the board during the lockout. That smells of the Cardinals in the past. But Arizona’s track record of churning out excellent drafts under Rod Graves and Steve Keim is sensational. Ken Whisenhunt is the perfect coach for the Cardinals. The stadium is beautiful. The Arizona public relations staff knows how to promote the product and is regarded as top-notch. I give the Cards only a 4 at quarterback because right now Kevin Kolb is a very educated guess. If it wasn’t for that potential, it would be a minus-4. 17. San Diego Chargers: 36 Owner: 5 Quarterback: 9 Coach: 5 Front office: 7.5 Coaching staff: 6.5 Intangibles: 3 Qualcomm Stadium will require nearly $80 million in maintenance and repairs over the next seven years. The stadium situation is a mess. Nobody is totally sure where they will be down the road. GM A.J. Smith’s ego cost San Diego playing with Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill for a full year. Greg Manusky is a great defensive coordinator and a nice addition to Norv Turner’s staff. 18. Houston Texans: 35.5 Owner: 8 Quarterback: 7 Coach: 2 Front office: 5.5 Coaching staff: 6 Intangibles: 7 Bob McNair is a good owner who badly wants to win and puts a lot of money into the team. Gary Kubiak got the lowest grade of any head coach. His underachievement and goofy in-game decisions cost him. And you wonder aloud if McNair regrets the contract extension he gave Kubiak after the 2009 season. The Houston public relations staff is superb. 19. St. Louis Rams: 33.5 Owner: 3 Quarterback: 7 Coach: 6 Front office: 5 Coaching staff: 6 Intangibles: 6.5 Finally, optimism! Coach Steve Spagnuolo and QB Sam Bradford changed the culture in St. Louis. The ownership issue has become a back-burner topic. 20. Denver Broncos: 31 Owner: 5 Quarterback: 5 Coach: 5 Front office: 4.5 Coaching staff: 4.5 Intangibles: 7 John Elway has infused a ton of needed energy and confidence into the building and the fan base after Josh McDaniels zapped it. I think head coach John Fox is the right guy at the right time in Denver, akin to Rex Ryan replacing Eric Mangini. 21. Cleveland Browns: 30 Owner: 3 Quarterback: 4 Coach: 4 Front office: 8 Coaching staff: 5 Intangibles: 6 There is some legit hope in Cleveland with Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert running the organization after Eric Mangini sucked the life out of the franchise. 22. Washington Redskins: 29.5 Owner: 5 Quarterback: 1 Coach: 7.5 Front office: 8 Coaching staff: 4 Intangibles: 4 This was the single toughest team to grade. Dan Snyder is fine when you lock him in the closet and let the football people spend his money. I love Mike Shanahan, but last year was so messy. I think Bruce Allen knows what he is doing. I do not think Kyle Shanahan, who orchestrated the Rex Grossman for Donovan McNabb circus, is the coach his father is. “Redskins Nation” has turned into a skeptical fan base. The quarterback situation is a total disaster. 23. Detroit Lions: 28 Owner: 3 Quarterback: 4 Coach: 5 Front office: 4 Coaching staff: 7 Intangibles: 5 Jim Schwartz really has this team headed in the right direction after winning the final four games of last year. But I worry the lockout will set them back. And I hate seeing mandatory two-week furloughs during the lockout. Forget the classic line of these are the “rebuilding since 1957” Lions. I think you will fondly remember the “rebuilt since December 2010” Detroit Lions. It would be nice if Matthew Stafford could stay healthy. 24. San Francisco 49ers: 28 Owner: 5 Quarterback: 1 Head Coach: 6 Front office: 4 Coaching staff: 7 Intangibles: 5 It appears that the Niners have cleared redevelopment hurdles in preparation of their move to Santa Clara in 2015. And not a moment too soon. Jim Harbaugh, Jed York and Bob Lange are major upgrades for head coach, owner and PR director in recent years. The Niners have done a nice job this year with social media. Mike Singletary was a train wreck, more punchline than coach, and Harbaugh will live up to the hype. 25. Minnesota Vikings: 27 Owner: 5 Quarterback: 2 Coach: 4 Front office: 5 Coaching staff: 6 Intangibles: 5 The Vikings aren’t out of the woods yet on getting a new stadium with questions about the volume of public money. Owner Zygi Wilf and GM Rick Spielman got burned badly by Brett Favre in Year 2 and the return of Randy Moss. 26. Oakland Raiders: 24 Owner: 3 Quarterback: 3 Coach: 4 Front office: 2 Coaching staff: 5 Intangibles: 7 Mark Sanchez LABOR WOES Report: NFL owners meet secretly NFLPA to stage own rookie symposium Rift opening up among coaches Titans fans question Goodell on lockout Series: Labor fight hits home Blog: Follow all the labor drama For the record, I really believe in new head coach Hue Jackson. For the record, owner Al Davis firing Tom Cable after sweeping through the AFC West shows that change and chaos always rules in Oakland. I love how the Raiders aren’t cutting coaches' salaries, but asking them to sell tickets during the lockout. “Raider Nation” helps the intangibles. The stadium hurts the grade. 27. Jacksonville Jaguars: 22.5 Owner: 2 Quarterback: 4 Coach: 4 Front office: 5.5 Staff 5 Intangibles: 2 The Jags coaching staff is solid with Dirk Koetter, Mel Tucker, Andy Hecht and Earnest Byner. Owner Wayne Weaver would be considered the exact opposite of solid. I think this is it for QB David Garrard in Jacksonville. If the team misses the playoffs, it could be it for coach Jack Del Rio as well. Fan support still remains a major issue. So do the rumblings of a move. 28. Miami Dolphins: 21 Owner: 2 Quarterback: 2 Coach: 5 Front office: 5 Coaching staff: 6 Intangibles: 1 Owner Steven Ross showed how clueless he is by chasing around head-coaching candidates like a love-struck teenager, while still employing Tony Sparano. And then, as a "make-good" he foolishly gave his head coach, who won one home game, a new contract. But then again, what do you expect from a man who compares Chad Henne to Dan Marino? Miami is cutting pay for employees during the lockout. Classy. Defensive coordinator Mike Nolan is a rare gem in this sudden mess of a team. 29. Cincinnati Bengals: 18 Owner: 1 Quarterback: 2 Coach: 5 Front office: 1 Coaching staff: 8 Intangibles: 1 Marvin Lewis' coaching staff, highlighted by defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer, helped save the Bengals from total embarrassment. Owner Mike Brown's head has been in the sand for years. The commitment to the selfish Chad Ochocinco is pathetic and counterproductive to winning. Carson Palmer is likely finished as the quarterback. And let's be honest: He held the team back last season. 30. Tennessee Titans: 17.5 Owner: 1 Quarterback: 2 Coach: 3 Front office: 4 Coaching staff: 5.5 Intangibles: 2 What if I told you in 2009 that both Jeff Fisher and Vince Young would be ex-Titans in 2011? This team has issues. 31. Carolina Panthers: 15.5 Owner: 1 Quarterback: 2 Coach: 4 Front office: 1 Coaching staff: 6.5 Intangibles: 1 Owner Jerry Richardson let former coach John Fox dangle as a lame duck, making a successful season totally impossible. I wasn’t against letting Julius Peppers go, but the Panthers didn’t spend the money to replace him. Carolina has selected three quarterbacks in the last two drafts. Richardson should be ashamed how he has run this team in recent years. 32. Buffalo Bills: 14.5 Owner: 1 Quarterback: 3.5 Buffalo Bills Rankings Coach: 3 Front office: 1 Coaching staff: 4 Intangibles: 2 I feel so terrible for the amazing and diehard Bills fans. They deserve an in-touch owner and a team with a plan. And the Bills put in pay cuts for all employees and cut pensions during the lockout. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I did not read the article. But let me guess the Pats are higher in ranking than the JETS. That makes a lot of sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 I did not read the article. But let me guess the Pats are higher in ranking than the JETS. That makes a lot of sense! Giants to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 The only team to go to the final four the last two years is ranked a lot below the team that has not won a playoff game in the past 4 seasons. The coach that is ahead 3-2 in head to head matchups is only given a 8. But the coach that has not won a playoff game in a while is a perfect 10! And what had Robert Kraft done to deserve a perfect rating ? 4. New England Patriots: 54.5 Owner: 10 Quarterback: 10 Coach: 10 Front office: 8 Coaching staff: 8 Intangibles: 8.54. 10. New York Jets: 46.5 Owner: 8 Quarterback: 7 Coach: 8 Front office: 9 Coaching staff: 8.5 Intangibles: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Well, I'm glad that's settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 The article certainly wasn't all bad... 28. Miami Dolphins: 21 Owner: 2 Quarterback: 2 Coach: 5 Front office: 5 Coaching staff: 6 Intangibles: 1 Owner Steven Ross showed how clueless he is by chasing around head-coaching candidates like a love-struck teenager, while still employing Tony Sparano. And then, as a "make-good" he foolishly gave his head coach, who won one home game, a new contract. But then again, what do you expect from a man who compares Chad Henne to Dan Marino? Miami is cutting pay for employees during the lockout. Classy. Defensive coordinator Mike Nolan is a rare gem in this sudden mess of a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I did not read the article. But let me guess the Pats are higher in ranking than the JETS. That makes a lot of sense! It sure does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 It sure does I am sure not winning a post season game in 4 years is backing that up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Love 20 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 So.....if we added Chad Pennington to our team would our "intangibles" rating go up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I am sure not winning a post season game in 4 years is backing that up! Not that it matters, but NE did not win a post season game in 2008? Winning post season games means nothing without winning the Super Bowl. NE has a better QB, better HC and a younger team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I am sure not winning a post season game in 4 years is backing that up! Don't waste your time explaining things to a clown that sees players playing in games they are not playing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PFSIKH Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 The only team to go to the final four the last two years is ranked a lot below the team that has not won a playoff game in the past 4 seasons. The coach that is ahead 3-2 in head to head matchups is only given a 8. But the coach that has not won a playoff game in a while is a perfect 10! And what had Robert Kraft done to deserve a perfect rating ? 4. New England Patriots: 54.5 Owner: 10 Quarterback: 10 Coach: 10 Front office: 8 Coaching staff: 8 Intangibles: 8.54. 10. New York Jets: 46.5 Owner: 8 Quarterback: 7 Coach: 8 Front office: 9 Coaching staff: 8.5 Intangibles: 6 Why is Belichick a 10? A year ago, most experts were picking the rise of the Jets to AFC East and more supremacy. The Patriots were at best the 2nd pick and often the 3rd pick in the division. The Patriots went 14-2. Ryan is a very good coach, but the truth is, he has not won anything yet. Why is Kraft a 10? Look at the Patriots since he took over. The Patriots played in a stadium that was sub par to some Texas HS stadiums and were close to moving to St. Louis. They had made two championship games and been out scored 97-20. They were around 60 game sunder .500. Since he took over in 1994, they are arguably the most successful franchise and have a stadium that is not a joke. Is it all Kraft? Obviously, no, but the team is clearly well run. This is something that cannot be said at any time before 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Not that it matters, but NE did not win a post season game in 2008? Winning post season games means nothing without winning the Super Bowl. NE has a better QB, better HC and a younger team. Why is Belichick a 10? A year ago, most experts were picking the rise of the Jets to AFC East and more supremacy. The Patriots were at best the 2nd pick and often the 3rd pick in the division. The Patriots went 14-2. Ryan is a very good coach, but the truth is, he has not won anything yet. Why is Kraft a 10? Look at the Patriots since he took over. The Patriots played in a stadium that was sub par to some Texas HS stadiums and were close to moving to St. Louis. They had made two championship games and been out scored 97-20. They were around 60 game sunder .500. Since he took over in 1994, they are arguably the most successful franchise and have a stadium that is not a joke. Is it all Kraft? Obviously, no, but the team is clearly well run. This is something that cannot be said at any time before 1994. All great points guys. And just when i was buying into this hook, line and sinker I came across this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VngivZGkieE&feature=related How can the perfect team, with the perfect coach and the perfect QB end up getting embarrassed in their own crib when it mattered the most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyTMitchell Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Simple as the Pats were overconfident and thought that they could had won. But the Jets came up and snuck up them. Jets will get to the big show aka Super Bowl, the way that they are playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 All great points guys. And just when i was buying into this hook, line and sinker I came across this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VngivZGkieE&feature=related How can the perfect team, with the perfect coach and the perfect QB end up getting embarrassed in their own crib when it mattered the most? No one is perfect. They might be the best at their respective jobs, but sometimes the dragon wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 No one is perfect. They might be the best at their respective jobs, but sometimes the dragon wins. My point exactly. But if this ranking is to be believed the owner, QB and coach are perfect! 4. New England Patriots: 54.5 Owner: 10 Quarterback: 10 Coach: 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 The Pats being ahead of the Jets is valid. The article states straight-up that this is NOT A POWER RANKING. It's an organizational ranking based on several criteria and the Jets lose points for screwing their employees out of salary and benefits after the owners called for the lockout themselves. Belichek and the NE front office has made that team a powerhouse over the long haul with solid coaching and quarterback play as well as shrewd personnel decisons and drafting. We've got to do it for more than two seasons to be considered better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 The Pats being ahead of the Jets is valid. The article states straight-up that this is NOT A POWER RANKING. It's an organizational ranking based on several criteria and the Jets lose points for screwing their employees out of salary and benefits after the owners called for the lockout themselves. Belichek and the NE front office has made that team a powerhouse over the long haul with solid coaching and quarterback play as well as shrewd personnel decisons and drafting. We've got to do it for more than two seasons to be considered better. Richard Seymour says hi! Everybody can have an opinion. But to grade the coach, the QB and the owner as a perfect 10 is nothing but the best brown nosing ever seen in any sport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Richard Seymour says hi! Everybody can have an opinion. But to grade the coach, the QB and the owner as a perfect 10 is nothing but the best brown nosing ever seen in any sport! I think you are putting weigh too much into what a 10 means. Is Aaron Rodgers perfect? No. Saints intangibles? WTF is that? Steelers Owner and intangibles? No. You are over thinking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Come on guys. You know 10 is Kraft's BAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I think you are putting weigh too much into what a 10 means. Is Aaron Rodgers perfect? No. Saints intangibles? WTF is that? Steelers Owner and intangibles? No. You are over thinking it. And how many teams have all three categories marked 10 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 All great points guys. And just when i was buying into this hook, line and sinker I came across this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VngivZGkieE&feature=related How can the perfect team, with the perfect coach and the perfect QB end up getting embarrassed in their own crib when it mattered the most? And... a week later the Jets were getting ready to watch the Super Bowl from the couch. Like the Pats. That was the NY Jets Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Come on guys. You know 10 is Kraft's BAC. Dont forget Braylon .017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 And... a week later the Jets were getting ready to watch the Super Bowl from the couch. Like the Pats. Don't forget the part about the one-and-done-two-years-in-a-row Pats*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Richard Seymour says hi! Everybody can have an opinion. But to grade the coach, the QB and the owner as a perfect 10 is nothing but the best brown nosing ever seen in any sport! As does RAndy Moss, Wes Welker, Dany Woodhead, etc. Man, I hate defending the Pats. But the organization's abilty to remain to remain relevent and competitive for so many years is, like global warming, an inconvenient truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Don't forget the part about the one-and-done-two-years-in-a-row Pats*. Only if you promise not to forget the Jets 0 - 2 AFCC in your lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 And... a week later the Jets were getting ready to watch the Super Bowl from the couch. Like the Pats. That was the NY Jets Super Bowl. That's another story. The JETS are 4-2 last two seasons in the playoffs and Pats are one and done in both playoff games and both games were played at home! This is about how the hell the Pats can be ranked #4 while the only team to make the final four the last two post seasons is at #10. It defies logic no matter how you look at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 As does RAndy Moss, Wes Welker, Dany Woodhead, etc. Man, I hate defending the Pats. But the organization's abilty to remain to remain relevent and competitive for so many years is, like global warming, an inconvenient truth. We all know how the organization remained relevant till it was shown how they used video tape and conveniently forgot some rules. I don't like to speculate but whats to say they are not bending rules now as we speak. Maybe we find it a few years down the road. Heck if the Pats can be ranked #4 as a legit organization we might as well give Barry Bonds his due recognition and place in the Hall of Fame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 That's another story. The JETS are 4-2 last two seasons in the playoffs and Pats are one and done in both playoff games and both games were played at home! This is about how the hell the Pats can be ranked #4 while the only team to make the final four the last two post seasons is at #10. It defies logic no matter how you look at it! The answer is easy. Respect. Money making ability. Consistency. It may not be fair, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Only if you promise not to forget the Jets 0 - 2 AFCC in your lifetime. Um, unless you think he's less than 12 years old, that's at least 0-3 dumbass. 0-4 for those alive for the Mud Bowl. Haha, you're so dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Um, unless you think he's less than 12 years old, that's at least 0-3 dumbass. 0-4 for those alive for the Mud Bowl. Haha, you're so dumb. Thanks for reminding me how wonderful it has been to root for this team for the past 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Thanks for reminding me how wonderful it has been to root for this team for the past 30 years. Any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The answer is easy. Respect. Money making ability. Consistency. It may not be fair, but it is what it is. Consistency with what cheating. And Respect for cheating ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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