Bleedin Green Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Holy Mackerel! You know what? Good for him, man. Any hard feelings I might've had are all gone. That's a nice end of career payment for him. He'd've been foolish to turn it down. Completely agree. Nice payday for Ellis and at that amount, guy is clearly going to get his shot to start for that team. Hate it had to be for that team of all teams, but he wasn't going to get anything close to that offer anywhere else, so it was the right thing for him to do. Honestly, part of me now actually wonders if it actually cost the Pats a little more to get Ellis than it otherwise would have because it was the Pats, because they certainly FAAAAR outbid the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 DE is mainly used to stop the run they aren't pass rushers in the 3-4. If BB wants to actually get success out of Haynesworth it means he's planing on playing considerable 4-3 Seymour had 8 sacks twice as a 3 - 4 DE http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SeymRi00.htm Ellis had 8 sacks in Mangini's final year and he ran the exact same D as NE http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/ElliSh00.htm Mike Wright has 5.5 sacks as a DE in the 3 - 4 http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WrigMi20.htm 3 - 4 DEs run stuff and pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 August 8, 2011 12:50 PM 10 comments Shaun Ellis' deal with Patriots: $4-$5 million BY Manish Mehta Shaun Ellis had about five million reasons to sign with the Patriots. The Daily News has learned that Ellis agreed to a one-year deal believed to be worth between $4-$5 million dollars. New England’s offer was about five times more than the Jets’ veteran minimum offer of $910,000, according to a source. ** Shortly after Mark Sanchez likened the Jets defense to the 1985 Chicago Bears’ unit (“It’s like they practiced every day during the lockout,” he said), Rex Ryan put a stop to it: “No,” Ryan said. “This team’s not there.’’ Ryan says Plaxico Burress will participate in individual drills in practice later today. He may see a bit more time in team drills. Matt Kroul has been moved from defensive line to offensive line, prompting Bart Scott to call Kroul the "Fat Faneca." Ryan calls undrafted free agent linebacker Nick Bellore the biggest surprise on defense thus far. Ryan says Gang Green will go live with goalline drills on Thursday. Real hitting. Gang Green is thinking about selling a bobblehead of outspoken special teams coach Mike Westhoff. Unfortunately, the bobblehead doesn’t come with accompanying sound. The organization wants 288 pre-orders by the end of Wednesday before committing to the project. For more Jets news, follow Manish Mehta on Twitter at http://Twitter.com/TheJetsStream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 So much for the idea that if they gave him 1.5 M he would still be a Jet. No way they were going 5 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 4-5 Mil? Cant blame him. **** him, pos, but cant blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Reports out now that he's going to cost NE between 4 and 5 million-thanks for using up all the remaining Pats cap Shaun I'm starting to think that the cap is a joke being played on the fans. Seems like every team has a way around it. And, I hear the Pats aren't done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 And, I hear the Pats aren't done. And why wouldn't they? They're only trying to keep up with the Sawx in assembling the greatest team in the history of the world. This is the year they actually do go undefeated, and the Pats rule the world again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 And why wouldn't they? They're only trying to keep up with the Sawx in assembling the greatest team in the history of the world. This is the year they actually do go undefeated, and the Pats rule the world again Hey, I follow the Pats secretary on Twitter. She's some southern belle turned admin who has loose lips (settle down, Captain) and everything she posts - example "big signing coming today, be patient, it's happening. Hope I don't get in trouble again teeheeheee" comes true. EVERY TIME. BTW, the reverse jinx does not work when your words oooze with sarcasm. I wrote the book on the reverse jinx, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 So much for the idea that if they gave him 1.5 M he would still be a Jet. No way they were going 5 million well for hwat its worth I had no idea the Pats would fork over 5 mil. That seems a little high is this confirmed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I'm starting to think that the cap is a joke being played on the fans. Seems like every team has a way around it. And, I hear the Pats aren't done. I personally don't think there should even BE a salary cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman81 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 The guy on NFL Live just said something about Ellis never really buying into what Rex and NY have been trying to do here, so they really didn't want him around the new young guys. Guess that's why they offered vet min. so he would have no choice but to choose elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 The guy on NFL Live just said something about Ellis never really buying into what Rex and NY have been trying to do here, so they really didn't want him around the new young guys. Guess that's why they offered vet min. so he would have no choice but to choose elsewhere. That's a bunch of pr spin being spoon fed to the media. And most people eat it up. What a crock. I've seen this done so many times by so many differennt organizations. Jets, Sox, Cowboys, Redskins, Flyers, Sabres, Rockies...well, you get the idea. So, Ellis wasn't into buying what? Winning? Or being a loudmouth? C'mon. What Ellis wasn't buying is taking a vet min and mentoring a young guy to take his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonFabinisBackhair Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 That's a bunch of pr spin being spoon fed to the media. And most people eat it up. What a crock. I've seen this done so many times by so many differennt organizations. Jets, Sox, Cowboys, Redskins, Flyers, Sabres, Rockies...well, you get the idea. So, Ellis wasn't into buying what? Winning? Or being a loudmouth? C'mon. What Ellis wasn't buying is taking a vet min and mentoring a young guy to take his place. The offer itself may be all the proof you need as to whether this is true. Why not make a real offer if they actually wanted him? This way they attempted to get a steal at the veteran's minimum or get rid of him. The lowball deal certainly corroborates this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 That's a bunch of pr spin being spoon fed to the media. And most people eat it up. What a crock. I've seen this done so many times by so many differennt organizations. Jets, Sox, Cowboys, Redskins, Flyers, Sabres, Rockies...well, you get the idea. So, Ellis wasn't into buying what? Winning? Or being a loudmouth? C'mon. What Ellis wasn't buying is taking a vet min and mentoring a young guy to take his place. I agree. My first thought: Bullsh*t My second though: still Bullsh*t The offer itself may be all the proof you need as to whether this is true. Why not make a real offer if they actually wanted him? This way they attempted to get a steal at the veteran's minimum or get rid of him. The lowball deal certainly corroborates this story. Or the size of the offer made my the Pats demonstrates how much it took to get him to leave the Jets and their vet minimum offer. I don't buy for a second that Ellis didn't buy into what Rex was doing here on defense. I do think the Jets were essentially done with him, though, with the DE position on the team being strong with or without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 That's a bunch of pr spin being spoon fed to the media. And most people eat it up. What a crock. I've seen this done so many times by so many differennt organizations. Jets, Sox, Cowboys, Redskins, Flyers, Sabres, Rockies...well, you get the idea. Oh, a Pats fan says it and everybody agrees. But I say it and it's all "F.U. Shane, you negative a$$hole." I see where I rank. Hate you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Oh, a Pats fan says it and everybody agrees. But I say it and it's all "F.U. Shane, you negative a$hole." I see where I rank. Hate you all. That's enough out of you, Negative Nancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Oh, a Pats fan says it and everybody agrees. But I say it and it's all "F.U. Shane, you negative a$$hole." I see where I rank. Hate you all. GFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Lol ^dicks. <3 you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Oh, a Pats fan says it and everybody agrees. But I say it and it's all "F.U. Shane, you negative a$$hole." I see where I rank. Hate you all. I lol'ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 maybe this was posted, but ross tucker said he was at jets camp last week, asked around why the jets haven't made a bigger offer and was told; ellis is a lousy practice player he never bought into rex the jets didn't want him around the pups they saw him as a bad influence so the jets made a veteran minimum offer, basically a polit good bye, and I heard the pats offer was 4 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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