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Trade scenario: Tebow + Shonn Greene + 2nd Round pick for MJD


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#1 JetsFanInDenver

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:46 PM

Would you do it ?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:48 PM

NO how old is MJD, it is about the 2nd rd pick which will be fairly high pick, i would give them tebow and greene for a 3rd rd pick, if they are dumb enuff to do it
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 06:33 PM

We should really stop trading out draft picks.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 06:43 PM

no no and no
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:09 PM

Horrible trade in every respect.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:10 PM

Why ?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:15 PM

Why ?


1. MJD wants more $$ so any trade would need to include a new contract.

2. Have you learned nothing watching Tannenbaum trade pick after pick away

3. If the Jets trade a pick it better be for a starting QB (i.e. Kapernick)

4. Why would Jax want Greene? They can get just as good of a player off the street.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:18 PM

1. MJD wants more $$ so any trade would need to include a new contract.

2. Have you learned nothing watching Tannenbaum trade pick after pick away

3. If the Jets trade a pick it better be for a starting QB (i.e. Kapernick)

4. Why would Jax want Greene? They can get just as good of a player off the street.



What makes you think Kapernick is a starting QB.
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#9 BroadwayJoe12

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:26 PM

1. MJD wants more $$ so any trade would need to include a new contract.

2. Have you learned nothing watching Tannenbaum trade pick after pick away

3. If the Jets trade a pick it better be for a starting QB (i.e. Kapernick)

4. Why would Jax want Greene? They can get just as good of a player off the street.


You're really pushing the Kaepernick bandwagon huh?? I won't lie, I would be all over it if it were a possibility, but since the 49ers spent what is essentially a later first rounder on him, they're not going to be giving him up very easily. The only thing anyone would have going for them is that he seems pretty reluctant to be relegated to the sidelines and with Alex Smith winning 20 of the last 26 or whatever it is, he's not getting off the bench any time soon, at least in a major role.

He's got ideal size and an absolute cannon for an arm, but the questions that he came into the league with are still concerns. Can he read a defense? Can he play in a NFL offense, not like the one he was playing at Nevada? Can he shorten his quasi-byron-leftwhich elongated throwing motion? Even with all those questions, I would still take him over sanchez in a heartbeat. The kid has promise, but there's no way you have sanchez on the roster for 17 million and go and trade a high two for a guy who won't even get to start.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:29 PM

What makes you think Kapernick is a starting QB.


He can make every throw in the book, is one of the most athletic QBs to come out in years and was statistically successful at nevada. The kid improved his completion percentage and yards per attempt every year (with the outlier being his first year) and he freaking rushed for over 1000 yards his last three years there. He was very raw coming out, but I would still take him over sanchez any day of the week.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:40 PM

He can make every throw in the book, is one of the most athletic QBs to come out in years and was statistically successful at nevada. The kid improved his completion percentage and yards per attempt every year (with the outlier being his first year) and he freaking rushed for over 1000 yards his last three years there. He was very raw coming out, but I would still take him over sanchez any day of the week.


everyone would rather have anyone over sanchez right now. Im not so sure kapernick is the answer seeing how we have 2 guys who havent got playing time yet and wed have to give up a lot for an unproven guy. Much rather have flynn
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:47 PM

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:54 PM

He can make every throw in the book, is one of the most athletic QBs to come out in years and was statistically successful at nevada. The kid improved his completion percentage and yards per attempt every year (with the outlier being his first year) and he freaking rushed for over 1000 yards his last three years there. He was very raw coming out, but I would still take him over sanchez any day of the week.


Was he more statistically successful at Nevada than Alex Van Dyke?

Nope.

Therefore he sucks and always will suck.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:55 PM

everyone would rather have anyone over sanchez right now. Im not so sure kapernick is the answer seeing how we have 2 guys who havent got playing time yet and wed have to give up a lot for an unproven guy. Much rather have flynn


You'd rather have the guy who was given a guaranteed two year contract that wound up getting beat out by a rookie third rounder?? Righttt.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:57 PM

You'd rather have the guy who was given a guaranteed two year contract that wound up getting beat out by a rookie third rounder?? Righttt.


Wilson is a player simple as that. There is no evidence to say that flynn wouldnt be better anyway since hes never been given a chance to play. Wilsons upside is awesome tho
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:58 PM

Was he more statistically successful at Nevada than Alex Van Dyke?

Nope.

Therefore he sucks and always will suck.


Lol it just goes to show that sometimes guys that should be good pros, just don't pan out. Didn't he lead NCAAs in everything his senior year??
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:09 PM

Wilson is a player simple as that. There is no evidence to say that flynn wouldnt be better anyway since hes never been given a chance to play. Wilsons upside is awesome tho


Agreed that Wilson is a player, but you'd have to imagine they gave Flynn everything opportunity and then some to win that job. Even if there was a tie, he was going to win it. Losing out to wilson doesn't speak too highly for his value and this is coming from a diehard LSU fan who watched every single snap the kid took in his collegiate career. Do I think he could perform better than sanchez? Probably, but if I had the choice between him or Kaepernick, I'm going with Colin just based on upside alone.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:27 PM

Agreed that Wilson is a player, but you'd have to imagine they gave Flynn everything opportunity and then some to win that job. Even if there was a tie, he was going to win it. Losing out to wilson doesn't speak too highly for his value and this is coming from a diehard LSU fan who watched every single snap the kid took in his collegiate career. Do I think he could perform better than sanchez? Probably, but if I had the choice between him or Kaepernick, I'm going with Colin just based on upside alone.


i feel yea. As much as i hate pete caroll i think he did great picking wilson over flynn takes a lot of balls. And i just dont know bought kaep havnt seen him play enough to really think hes gonna be great. Cept when he ran riots on the jets
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:00 PM

You're really pushing the Kaepernick bandwagon huh?? I won't lie, I would be all over it if it were a possibility, but since the 49ers spent what is essentially a later first rounder on him, they're not going to be giving him up very easily.


2 years learning under Harbaugh makes a huge difference than when he was coming out of college.

If the 49ers make it deep into the playoffs again it will be hard for them to move on from Smith. Kapernick still has 2 years left on his deal so he may not be available but the Jets should at least make a run.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:18 PM

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In that case, make it a 2nd and a conditional 3rd!
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:22 PM

I don't see why the Jags would want to do this.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:30 PM

everyone would rather have anyone over sanchez right now. Im not so sure kapernick is the answer seeing how we have 2 guys who havent got playing time yet and wed have to give up a lot for an unproven guy. Much rather have flynn

Oh yes, Matt Flynn, who has had his value established by QB3 in Wilson.

Flynn is sh*t, he is worse than McKelroy. Dont let your eyes fool you with him standing in for Rodgers last year.. if he was that good, why would the pack dump him ?
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:52 PM

Oh yes, Matt Flynn, who has had his value established by QB3 in Wilson.

Flynn is sh*t, he is worse than McKelroy. Dont let your eyes fool you with him standing in for Rodgers last year.. if he was that good, why would the pack dump him ?


Didn't dump him, they just couldn't afford to resign him for the money he was garnering. Not really an indication of his skill, just it wasn't feasible to lock up a backup for that type of money.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 12:46 AM

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I already knew that. I hate your guts, nonetheless.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:37 AM

Didn't dump him, they just couldn't afford to resign him for the money he was garnering. Not really an indication of his skill, just it wasn't feasible to lock up a backup for that type of money.

he wasnt garnering any money, he was back up for Rodgers. Seattle sold the farm and picked him up , and they got screwed.
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