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[Matt39]

What is Mangold's contract? ANd how does it compare to other centers in the league?

[BurnleyJet]

It's over, gut this fish, we an't doing anything for years to come, dead money so what. sign lower end vets, BUILD THROUGH THE DRAFT!!!!

Edited by BurnleyJet, 23 November 2012 - 07:34 PM.

[Il Mostro]

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Be really good, challenge for the Super Bowl for two years and the fall back into the abyss.

Wash, Rinse, Repeat

Alternatively, flush twice. It's going to be a long ride.

[Sperm Edwards]

What you think new GM does? Finger in dyke and try to salvage a average season or rip it apart and take no prisoners.
Eat cap hits and get rid of guys that will do more harm than good in locker room?

Impossible to say. Depends who it is, depends on if retaining 1 or more of them for at least 1 more year are conditions of his hire, and really depends on whether or not he is bringing Ryan back.

A more experienced GM who has a reputation he can fall back on, or a total newbie looking to make a name for himself, might be the most likely to totally clean house. But an experienced scout who's worked his way up is likely to give these guys one last chance with another year, with the idea that they'll win 2 more games than otherwise, and make that mulligan year a little more successful.

In the end it depends on whether or not it's a Parcells type who is brought in to bring about the quickest turnaround by getting more out of our current under-contract players, or if it's someone who wants to do it "right" by building more methodically and save the cap space for when we're truly a piece or two away.

But there's no way to know. More likely than not Tannenbaum is returning anyway, crazy as it seems today.

[LionelRichie]

Impossible to say. Depends who it is, depends on if retaining 1 or more of them for at least 1 more year are conditions of his hire, and really depends on whether or not he is bringing Ryan back.

A more experienced GM who has a reputation he can fall back on, or a total newbie looking to make a name for himself, might be the most likely to totally clean house. But an experienced scout who's worked his way up is likely to give these guys one last chance with another year, with the idea that they'll win 2 more games than otherwise, and make that mulligan year a little more successful.

In the end it depends on whether or not it's a Parcells type who is brought in to bring about the quickest turnaround by getting more out of our current under-contract players, or if it's someone who wants to do it "right" by building more methodically and save the cap space for when we're truly a piece or two away.

But there's no way to know. More likely than not Tannenbaum is returning anyway, crazy as it seems today.

I can't see a scenario where Tannenbaum comes back. Woody is about headlines and a full stadium and there needs to be a sacrificial lamb for this debacle. Last year it was Schott this year it's likely Tannenbaum.

Add in the Sanchez, Holmes, and Harris contracts, Ducasse, Gholston, and Wilson and you pretty much define incompetence.

In a perfect world Woody cleans house although there is a chance he leaves it to the new GM.

There are still some decent pieces on this team and the NFL has shown that a new HC and a couple of key players can change 6-10 to 10-6 in 1 season.

[Lil Bit Special]

All this talk as if Sanchez was replaced we would be all off a sudden a contender again is really just blind hatred from the Sanchez haters. And no I am not defending Sanchez and even suggesting he isn't the problem.

But this team has nothing, no WR's, no RB's, only 1 good OL man, Moore is old, and done, D'Brick is average, and the other 2 are depth fodder. Our LB core might be the worst in the league compared to teams that run a 3/4 D, our D line has promise, but they are mostly young, and learning, at a position where MEN not boys play, our D Lineman are still boys, yes 2-3 of them have potential to turn into men. No FS to roam, and make plays, even with all that, the D still can play OK against non elite teams, and the potential to get better, but as the Pats have shown that shouldn't be the focus, the focus needs to be on scoring points, and scoring points quickly.

Sanchez, didn't fumble the KO for TD, he didn't botch the horrific play calling in the 1st quarter, he didn't quit on the 3rd and 2 screen pass, and fear the hit, and slide feet first to avoid getting hit hard when a lower your head drive your feet move gets the extra yard, he didn't get stuffed on the next play on 4th, and 1, he also didn't get stuffed on the goal line 4th, and 1 late in the game, after a dropped TD pass.

My point is don't just kill Sanchez, it's the whole Organization, it starts with our Attention whore of an owner, then our number crunching, penny saving, non football knowing GM, then to our HC who thinks being the D Coordinator only, and having a philosophy that thinks Offense is not important, it just needs to have good ball control, points are secondary, Then we can start looking at Sanchez, and so on, who all suck right now, and will always suck as long as this Franchise pretends to know what wins in this league, but really doesn't.

we wouldnt be a contender, but sanchez sucks despite the mediocrity around him. he is awful. sh!tty. terrible. But no matter who you put under center (except a top 5 qb who we aint gettin) we're still a bad team.

[Lupz27]

we wouldnt be a contender, but sanchez sucks despite the mediocrity around him. he is awful. sh!tty. terrible. But no matter who you put under center (except a top 5 qb who we aint gettin) we're still a bad team.

Exactly, the post was not to say Sanchez doesn't suck, it was basically saying the whole roster sucks not just Sanchez.