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#1 hollywood nosebleed

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:13 AM

This is a list of offensive skill positions so far.

WR - Marqise Lee, USC Top 20
Height: 6'0 Weight: 195 Est 40 time: 4.45
Pros: Long strides, superb athlete, accelerates quickly, can make the difficult catch, excellent leaping ability, effective blocker.
Cons: Tracks deep ball poorly at times, and drops open passes sometimes.
Nfl comparison: Jeremy Maclin
College stats: 2011 Rec 73 Yards 1143 Avg 15.7 TDs 11 2012 Rec 118 Yards 1721 Avg 14.6 TDs 14
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=PAWJ2FRTRFg

WR - Sammy Watkins, Clemson 1st Rd
Height: 6'1 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.40
Pros: Great speed, ability to beat press coverage, natural hands, good change of speed, elusive, sharp route runner.
Cons: Not very physical, DUI arrest
Nfl comparison: Roddy White
College stats: 2011 Rec 82 Yards 1219 Avg 14.9 TDs 12 2012 Rec 57 Yards 708 Avg 12.4 TDs 3
http://m.youtube.com...l&v=00EWkjb25K8

WR - Brandon Coleman, Rutgers 2-3rd
Height: 6'5 Weight: 220 Est 40 time: 4.55
Pros: Good athlete for his size, incredible length, very good route runner.
Cons: Must attack balls better, must get stronger, needs to be more consistent catching the ball.
Nfl comparison: Marques Colston
College stats: 2011 Rec 17 Yards 552 Avg 32.5 TDs 6 2012 Rec 43 Yards 718 Avg 16.7 TDs 10
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=8zhPTLZ3Tdc

WR - Paul Richardson, Colorado 3-5rd
Height: 6'2 Weight: 185 Est 40 time: 4.48
Pros: Great hands, can go up and make the tough catch, good route runner.
Cons: Knee injury in 2012, needs to add weight
Nfl comparison: Brandon Lloyd
College stats: 2011 Rec 34 yards 514 Avg 15.1 TDs 6 2012 Rec 39 Yards 555 Avg 14.2 TDs 5

WR - Davante Adams, Fresno State 2-4rd (red shirt sophomore might come out because his QB Derek Carr is leaving)
Height: 6-2 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.46
Pros: Speed to stretch defenses, natural hands, big hands, elusive, good vertical, can make tough catches, great hacks, keeps head on a swivel.
Cons: Some focus concerns
Nfl comparison: Hakeem Nicks ( I think he's better if he has a qb tho)
College stats: 2012 Rec 102 Yards 1312 Avg 12.9 TDs 14
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=uoTWdXtHGV4

I haven't done full write ups on the rbs yet but these are the ones I like so far

RB - Bishop Sankey, Washington 2-4rd
Height: 5'10 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.50
College stats: 2011 Att 28 Yards 187 Avg 6.7 TDs 1 Rec 6 Yards 14 Avg 2.3 TDs 0 2012 Att 289 Yards 1439 Avg 5 TDs 16 Rec 33 Yards 249 Avg 7.5
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=S6kmq_sqblg (It's long but shows all the tough carries not just TDs)

RB - Dre Archer, Kent State 4-7rd
Height: 5'8 Weight: 175 Est 40 time: 4.30
College stats: 2009 Att 58 Yards 246 Avg 4.2 TDs 1 Rec 19 Yards 231 Avg 12.2 TDs 3 2010 Att 40 Yards 140 Avg 3.5 TDs 1 Rec 16 Yards 75 Avg 3.5 TDs 1 2012 Att 159 Yards 1429 Avg 9.0 TDs 16 Rec 39 Yards 561 Avg 14.4 TDs 4
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=8dpvSqIAge4

RB - Marion Grice, ASU 3-5rd
Height: 6'0 Weight: 204 Est 40 time: 4.46
College stats: 2012 Att 103 Yards 679 Avg 6.6 TDs 11 Rec 41 Yards 425 Avg 10.4 TDs 8
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=UjwYycQEMY4

RB - Charles Sims, West Virgina (transferred this year from Houston) 2-5rd
Height: 6'0 Weight: 213 Est 40 time: 4.52
College stats: 2009 Att 132 Yards 689 Avg 5.3 TDs 9 Rec 70 Yards 759 Avg 10.8 TDs 1 2011 Att 110 Yards 821 Avg 7.5 TDs 9 Rec 51 Yards 575 Avg 11.3 TDs 4 2012 Att 142 Yards 841 Avg 6.0 TDs 11 Rec 37 Yards 373 Avg 10.1 TDs 3
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=xKdmmyvM5vM

RB - LaDarius Perkins, Miss State 3-5rd
Height: 5'10 Weight: 195 Est 40 time: 4.52
College stats: 2010 Att 101 Yards 566 Avg 5.6 TDs 3 Rec 9 Yards 242 Avg 27.4 TDs 3 2011 Att 87 Yards 422 Avg 4.9 TDs 2 Rec 13 Yar 59 Avg 4.5 TDs 2 2012 Att 205 Yards 1016 Avg 5.0 TDs 8 Rec 19 Yards 169 Avg 8.2 TDs 2
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=tosFLAO5IfA

RB - Michael Dyer, Louisville 4-7rd (2010 & 2011 Auburn 2012 sat out at Arkansas State, 2013 Louisville)
Height: 5'9 Weight: 215 Est 40 time: 4.48
College stats: 2010 Att 182 Yards 1093 Avg 6.0 TDs 5 Rec 1 Yards 9 Avg 9 TDs 0 2011 Att 242 Yards 1242 Avg 5.1 TDs 10 Rec 2 Yards 7 Avg 3.5 TDs 0

I haven't written full reports on Te yet but these are the ones I like so far

TE - Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington 1st round
Height: 6'6 Weight 276 Est 40 time: 4.65
College stats: 2011 Rec 41 Yards 538 Avg 13.1 TDs 6 2012 Rec 69 Yards 852 Ave 12.3 TDs 7
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=lPZ5ZDWEADo

TE - Eric Ebron, UNC 2-4rd
Height: 6'4 Weight 245 Est 40 time: 4.65
College stats: 2011 Rec 10 Yards 207 Avg 20.7 TDs 1 2012 Rec 40 Yards 675 Avg 15.6 TDs 4
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=i8ak0nS3HdM

TE - Justin Jones, ECU 5-UDFA
Height: 6'8 Weight: 277 Est 40 time: 4.72
College stats: 2011 Rec 6 Yards 41 Avg 6.8 TDs 4 2012 Rec 25 Yards 346 Avg 13.8 TDs 3
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=wCoLrQgfIC8

I have a a bunch of defensive players scouted if anyone is interested.
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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:12 PM

This is a list of offensive skill positions so far.

WR - Marqise Lee, USC Top 20
Height: 6'0 Weight: 195 Est 40 time: 4.45
Pros: Long strides, superb athlete, accelerates quickly, can make the difficult catch, excellent leaping ability, effective blocker.
Cons: Tracks deep ball poorly at times, and drops open passes sometimes.
Nfl comparison: Jeremy Maclin
College stats: 2011 Rec 73 Yards 1143 Avg 15.7 TDs 11 2012 Rec 118 Yards 1721 Avg 14.6 TDs 14
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=PAWJ2FRTRFg

WR - Sammy Watkins, Clemson 1st Rd
Height: 6'1 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.40
Pros: Great speed, ability to beat press coverage, natural hands, good change of speed, elusive, sharp route runner.
Cons: Not very physical, DUI arrest
Nfl comparison: Roddy White
College stats: 2011 Rec 82 Yards 1219 Avg 14.9 TDs 12 2012 Rec 57 Yards 708 Avg 12.4 TDs 3
http://m.youtube.com...l&v=00EWkjb25K8

WR - Brandon Coleman, Rutgers 2-3rd
Height: 6'5 Weight: 220 Est 40 time: 4.55
Pros: Good athlete for his size, incredible length, very good route runner.
Cons: Must attack balls better, must get stronger, needs to be more consistent catching the ball.
Nfl comparison: Marques Colston
College stats: 2011 Rec 17 Yards 552 Avg 32.5 TDs 6 2012 Rec 43 Yards 718 Avg 16.7 TDs 10
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=8zhPTLZ3Tdc

WR - Paul Richardson, Colorado 3-5rd
Height: 6'2 Weight: 185 Est 40 time: 4.48
Pros: Great hands, can go up and make the tough catch, good route runner.
Cons: Knee injury in 2012, needs to add weight
Nfl comparison: Brandon Lloyd
College stats: 2011 Rec 34 yards 514 Avg 15.1 TDs 6 2012 Rec 39 Yards 555 Avg 14.2 TDs 5

WR - Davante Adams, Fresno State 2-4rd (red shirt sophomore might come out because his QB Derek Carr is leaving)
Height: 6-2 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.46
Pros: Speed to stretch defenses, natural hands, big hands, elusive, good vertical, can make tough catches, great hacks, keeps head on a swivel.
Cons: Some focus concerns
Nfl comparison: Hakeem Nicks ( I think he's better if he has a qb tho)
College stats: 2012 Rec 102 Yards 1312 Avg 12.9 TDs 14
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=uoTWdXtHGV4

I haven't done full write ups on the rbs yet but these are the ones I like so far

RB - Bishop Sankey, Washington 2-4rd
Height: 5'10 Weight: 205 Est 40 time: 4.50
College stats: 2011 Att 28 Yards 187 Avg 6.7 TDs 1 Rec 6 Yards 14 Avg 2.3 TDs 0 2012 Att 289 Yards 1439 Avg 5 TDs 16 Rec 33 Yards 249 Avg 7.5
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=S6kmq_sqblg (It's long but shows all the tough carries not just TDs)

RB - Dre Archer, Kent State 4-7rd
Height: 5'8 Weight: 175 Est 40 time: 4.30
College stats: 2009 Att 58 Yards 246 Avg 4.2 TDs 1 Rec 19 Yards 231 Avg 12.2 TDs 3 2010 Att 40 Yards 140 Avg 3.5 TDs 1 Rec 16 Yards 75 Avg 3.5 TDs 1 2012 Att 159 Yards 1429 Avg 9.0 TDs 16 Rec 39 Yards 561 Avg 14.4 TDs 4
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=8dpvSqIAge4

RB - Marion Grice, ASU 3-5rd
Height: 6'0 Weight: 204 Est 40 time: 4.46
College stats: 2012 Att 103 Yards 679 Avg 6.6 TDs 11 Rec 41 Yards 425 Avg 10.4 TDs 8
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=UjwYycQEMY4

RB - Charles Sims, West Virgina (transferred this year from Houston) 2-5rd
Height: 6'0 Weight: 213 Est 40 time: 4.52
College stats: 2009 Att 132 Yards 689 Avg 5.3 TDs 9 Rec 70 Yards 759 Avg 10.8 TDs 1 2011 Att 110 Yards 821 Avg 7.5 TDs 9 Rec 51 Yards 575 Avg 11.3 TDs 4 2012 Att 142 Yards 841 Avg 6.0 TDs 11 Rec 37 Yards 373 Avg 10.1 TDs 3
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=xKdmmyvM5vM

RB - LaDarius Perkins, Miss State 3-5rd
Height: 5'10 Weight: 195 Est 40 time: 4.52
College stats: 2010 Att 101 Yards 566 Avg 5.6 TDs 3 Rec 9 Yards 242 Avg 27.4 TDs 3 2011 Att 87 Yards 422 Avg 4.9 TDs 2 Rec 13 Yar 59 Avg 4.5 TDs 2 2012 Att 205 Yards 1016 Avg 5.0 TDs 8 Rec 19 Yards 169 Avg 8.2 TDs 2
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=tosFLAO5IfA

RB - Michael Dyer, Louisville 4-7rd (2010 & 2011 Auburn 2012 sat out at Arkansas State, 2013 Louisville)
Height: 5'9 Weight: 215 Est 40 time: 4.48
College stats: 2010 Att 182 Yards 1093 Avg 6.0 TDs 5 Rec 1 Yards 9 Avg 9 TDs 0 2011 Att 242 Yards 1242 Avg 5.1 TDs 10 Rec 2 Yards 7 Avg 3.5 TDs 0

I haven't written full reports on Te yet but these are the ones I like so far

TE - Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington 1st round
Height: 6'6 Weight 276 Est 40 time: 4.65
College stats: 2011 Rec 41 Yards 538 Avg 13.1 TDs 6 2012 Rec 69 Yards 852 Ave 12.3 TDs 7
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=lPZ5ZDWEADo

TE - Eric Ebron, UNC 2-4rd
Height: 6'4 Weight 245 Est 40 time: 4.65
College stats: 2011 Rec 10 Yards 207 Avg 20.7 TDs 1 2012 Rec 40 Yards 675 Avg 15.6 TDs 4
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=i8ak0nS3HdM

TE - Justin Jones, ECU 5-UDFA
Height: 6'8 Weight: 277 Est 40 time: 4.72
College stats: 2011 Rec 6 Yards 41 Avg 6.8 TDs 4 2012 Rec 25 Yards 346 Avg 13.8 TDs 3
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=wCoLrQgfIC8

I have a a bunch of defensive players scouted if anyone is interested.

 

What about Mike Evans. He could come out this year.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 11:08 PM

What about Mike Evans. He could come out this year.

I like Mike Evans. He uses his size and basketball skills to box out and attack the ball in the air. He's a little stiff in the hips and a tad slow. If he can get his 40 time down I could see him taken in the bottom of rd 1. Right now I have him in the 2nd. He's a less explosive Vincent Jackson.
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 07:36 PM

Seferian-Jenkins would be nice. 


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:27 AM

I really like Sammy Watkins, the Roddy White comparison seems right on.

Seferian-Jenkins looks like a monster on that youtube but his production so far this season is weak


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:32 PM

the LSU WR's look like pro's


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 12:16 PM

Sammy Watkins might be the first player from Clemson that I like in the first round. 


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 12:12 PM

Allen Robinson from Penn State looks like he can play


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 01:36 AM

Allen Robinson from Penn State looks like he can play


My problem is he's a body catcher, and he over sells his routes with head fakes.
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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:55 PM

My problem is he's a body catcher, and he over sells his routes with head fakes.

 

Agreed, but he has all the tools and will be good with some coaching


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 10:44 PM

the LSU WR's look like pro's

 

They are. I'm as big of an LSU homer as you're going to find on this board, so I try not to give my opinion of all the guys unless I think they're really going to make it: the only players I really touted, besides the obvious in Peterson and Caliborne, were Reuben Randle, Bowe, Eric Reid, Mingo and Kevin Minter. I'm willing to stick my neck out for Landry and OB Jr as well; these guys aren't going to be your first round receivers, but they can do just about everything you ask and will make a team extremely happy in the second day.  Beckham probably moreso than Landry. 


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 05:25 PM

LOL so I was just making up an awesome mock in my head watching ESPN CF Live...

 

1. Sammy Watkins WR, Clemson

2. Eric Ebron TE, UNC

3. Jarvis Landry WR, LSU

3. LaMarcus Joyner S, FSU

4. Braylon Webb S, Missouri

5. Michael Sam DE/OLB Missouri

6. De'Anthony Thomas RB, Oregon 

7.  Jon Halapio OG, Florida

 

wah-la!!! 


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 09:29 PM

Throw Troy Niklas on the list of Weapunz I wouldn't mind. Watkins in the first and Niklas in the second seem nice right now. Grab a Christian Jones in the third to improve the coverage skills in the LB group, and then someone like James Gayle (DE, VT, potential beast) with the second third or the only 4th. 


Edited by SenorGato, 22 October 2013 - 09:35 PM.

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:42 PM

would love to add one of the following in the 1st depending on where we pick: Watkins, Evans, Lee, or Ebron.  in the second i wouldnt mind picking up Mike Davis, RB South Carolina, kid is legit and seems to be flying under the radar.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 09:47 PM

I'm a little bit sad that the DL run is probably over since Louis Nix III is pretty awesome. Adrian Hubbard in the third would be nice.


Edited by SenorGato, 05 November 2013 - 10:02 PM.

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:41 PM

the LSU WR's look like pro's

 

They always have....they're just generally disappointing pros


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:09 PM

Throw Troy Niklas on the list of Weapunz I wouldn't mind. Watkins in the first and Niklas in the second seem nice right now. Grab a Christian Jones in the third to improve the coverage skills in the LB group, and then someone like James Gayle (DE, VT, potential beast) with the second third or the only 4th. 

i  live n VA and this Gayle will be good he can take over at olb and if  given time and in rexs D he can be beast.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 01:00 AM

i  live n VA and this Gayle will be good he can take over at olb and if  given time and in rexs D he can be beast.

 

He's an impressive athlete with the right size, and there's a ton of potential as a pass rusher. 


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 05:51 PM

He's an impressive athlete with the right size, and there's a ton of potential as a pass rusher. 

yeah good speed and we will need olbs next year for depth a good pic with a late 3rd or early 4th


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Posted 09 November 2013 - 08:52 PM

I was on the verge of changing my position earlier this year and I've finally made the decision: I like OB Jr. more than Landry. I love both and think they're both going to be early second round picks and very good pros, but something about Bekham really excites me. 

 

Jeremy Hill is my favorite back in the country: not totally a homer pick, the guy has everything you look for. When he comes out in 2015, he's going to make a team very happy. 

 

Mettenberger is currently in the conversation for the first round, he might not make it, but he has all the tools to be a good QB, especially since Cameron has been working with him. I prefer his style of play moreso than the Mariotas, Boyds and Manziels of the world.


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Posted 09 November 2013 - 09:00 PM

You've got the three true sophomores in Gurley, Hill and Yeldon and I think that's the order of their talent as well.  I'd still pick Hill first, I'm skeptical of Gurley's ability to stay healthy, but both he and Hill are men amongst boys. 


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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:10 AM

For all of the posters on here who are constantly complaining about guys who only catch with their body, something I think is vastly overrated unless you watch every single catch they make, you should take a long hard look at Jordan Matthews out of Vanderbilt and then once again Odell Beckham Jr.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:21 AM

You've got the three true sophomores in Gurley, Hill and Yeldon and I think that's the order of their talent as well.  I'd still pick Hill first, I'm skeptical of Gurley's ability to stay healthy, but both he and Hill are men amongst boys. 

 

Mike Davis might be the best of the bunch.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:05 AM

Mike Davis might be the best of the bunch.

 

Yea, he's a stud too, as well as Duke Johnson and Melvin Gordon. There's a lot of talent coming out next year, which only means someone is going to fall.  If I had to choose, I'd probably still go with Hill or Gurley, because they've all got similar speed, but I love their size at 6'1 230+ and they both have familiarity catching the ball out of the backfield. Outside of retooling the WR and TE positions, I hope Idzik continues to go the route of not giving out second contracts and starts drafting replacements for guys in anticipation of them leaving. Like the Steelers have done with their LBs and WRs so well over the years.


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:44 AM

Yea, he's a stud too, as well as Duke Johnson and Melvin Gordon. There's a lot of talent coming out next year, which only means someone is going to fall.  If I had to choose, I'd probably still go with Hill or Gurley, because they've all got similar speed, but I love their size at 6'1 230+ and they both have familiarity catching the ball out of the backfield. Outside of retooling the WR and TE positions, I hope Idzik continues to go the route of not giving out second contracts and starts drafting replacements for guys in anticipation of them leaving. Like the Steelers have done with their LBs and WRs so well over the years.

 

Generally like the shorter backs in the NFL. Gurley seems injury prone....Davis is a bull. Has some Ray Rice in him to me.


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