DRJETS Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 With a record of 2-2. Right where we all predicted before the season, right? From the four games so far, I can see that we are moving the ball much much better than years past. The same rookie TO. Inconsistent OL. Ducasse is a cancer. The same mediocre Receiving corps. Improvement at RB only because Greene is gone. Defense is great up front but suspect in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 With a record of 2-2. Right where we all predicted before the season, right? From the four games so far, I can see that we are moving the ball much much better than years past. The same rookie TO. Inconsistent OL. Ducasse is a cancer. The same mediocre Receiving corps. Improvement at RB only because Greene is gone. Defense is great up front but suspect in the back. Looks like Rex met his goals at the quarter mark. Don't see these stats changing much the rest of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 We're 12th in yards. We're 28th in points scored, 22nd in 3rd down percentage, 31st in turnover ratio, and (as of last week) 29th in DVOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Totally shows, what where the Ravens last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 We're 12th in yards. We're 28th in points scored, 22nd in 3rd down percentage, 31st in turnover ratio, and (as of last week) 29th in DVOA. And the disconnect between the yardage and scoring is largely an effect of all the penalties and a poor OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 And the disconnect between the yardage and scoring is largely an effect of all the penalties and a poor OL. it's because of turnovers. all these people saying Jets OL is poor don't know what a poor OL looks like. THe giants for example. or the falcons last night were atrocious. Geno isn't making NFL quality decisions in an NFL time frame. That's not on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 How are we in the "discipline categories:- Turnovers, Turnover difference and penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 it's because of turnovers. all these people saying Jets OL is poor don't know what a poor OL looks like. THe giants for example. or the falcons last night were atrocious. Geno isn't making NFL quality decisions in an NFL time frame. That's not on the OL. As this site loves to remind us, it's possible for two people to be bad at their jobs simultaneously. Geno's turning the ball over at a Sanchezian rate, but your boy Ducasse is a dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 As this site loves to remind us, it's possible for two people to be bad at their jobs simultaneously. Geno's turning the ball over at a Sanchezian rate, but your boy Ducasse is a dumpster fire. ok fine but when a qb turns the ball over at a Sanchizian rate it's not really time to change the left guard. It should be like 10th on the list of things to change. It's like when they changed the punter after week 2. while there are always areas of improvement, the problem with this team isn't punters and left guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ok fine but when a qb turns the ball over at a Sanchizian rate it's not really time to change the left guard. It should be like 10th on the list of things to change. It's like when they changed the punter after week 2. while there are always areas of improvement, the problem with this team isn't punters and left guards. Still waiting to hear what we do when Simms gives the ball to the Falcons five times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 As this site loves to remind us, it's possible for two people to be bad at their jobs simultaneously. Geno's turning the ball over at a Sanchezian rate, but your boy Ducasse is a dumpster fire. What about a nice throw to Winslow that put the ball inside the Titans 10 yard line, negated by a illegal hand to the face. FG. duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 its all about the turnovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 its all about the turnovers And penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Still waiting to hear what we do when Simms gives the ball to the Falcons five times. Simple They play their Ace.......Brady Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Totally shows, what where the Ravens last year? You mean having a real QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 it's because of turnovers. all these people saying Jets OL is poor don't know what a poor OL looks like. THe giants for example. or the falcons last night were atrocious. Geno isn't making NFL quality decisions in an NFL time frame. That's not on the OL. It's his surrounding cast. Always. Give it 4 seasons or so. You'll see. Keep making the same mistake for years and expecting a different outcome is denfinitional insanity. Smith is right now a very bad known. Simm is an unknown. May be he fails, but really he could hardly be worse.If starting Simms causes Smith to lose his confidence, tough titties. May be like Pick 6 he isn't meant to be an NFL QB. Would hope that may be it would spark Smith to compete, but for too many here that is insane talk. Imagine being asked to do better at your profession and held to account for your failure; positively nutty. Right now this team is not winning anything unless you shake things up. Simms is that. Simms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Rex: ‘Not a thought’ to bench Geno ‘right now’ By Brian Costello September 30, 2013 | 1:24pm . Rex: ‘Not a thought’ to bench Geno ‘right now’ Geno Smith sits with the Jets defense on the field, but Rex Ryan has no plans on benching the quarterback . On the day after the Titans dismantled his Jets, coach Rex Ryan provided an obvious diagnosis of what went wrong in the 38-13 beatdown. “We’ve got to quit turning the ball over,” Ryan said Monday in a conference call with reporters. “That’s killing us right now. It wasn’t obvious until this past game. The reason it wasn’t obvious is because we played real good red-zone defense. That wasn’t the case yesterday.” Tennessee scored 28 points off Jets rookie quarterback Geno Smith’s four turnovers. Smith had two fumbles and two interceptions. All of them led to scores for the Titans. Ryan reiterated Smith was not the only Jet to blame for the loss, but he clearly is annoyed with his young signal-caller’s inability to protect the ball. Smith has 11 turnovers through four games, tied with Giants quarterback Eli Manning for the most in the NFL. “You can’t buy experience,” Ryan said. “With that being said, we still have to do a much better job with Geno in particular [thinking], ‘I have to protect the football at all costs.’ You can’t be nonchalant about it. You have to protect the ball. You can talk about it until you’re blue in the face. But when it happens, now you see it over and over. That’s the way we can improve.” Ryan was asked whether he would consider benching Smith to give him some time to watch and learn from the sideline. With Mark Sanchez injured, Matt Simms is second on the depth chart. “It’s not a thought at this point right now,” Ryan said. “Not a thought.” Ryan would like to see Smith take the sack rather than turn the ball over. “You have to be more aware of it like, ‘I’ve got to put two hands on the ball. I can’t just have one hand on a football,’ ” Ryan said. “The one where he fumbled for the touchdown he’s trying to avoid the rush, but at what cost? … We can’t afford to turn the ball over.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Rex: ‘Not a thought’ to bench Geno ‘right now’ By Brian Costello September 30, 2013 | 1:24pm . Rex: ‘Not a thought’ to bench Geno ‘right now’ Geno Smith sits with the Jets defense on the field, but Rex Ryan has no plans on benching the quarterback . On the day after the Titans dismantled his Jets, coach Rex Ryan provided an obvious diagnosis of what went wrong in the 38-13 beatdown. “We’ve got to quit turning the ball over,” Ryan said Monday in a conference call with reporters. “That’s killing us right now. It wasn’t obvious until this past game. The reason it wasn’t obvious is because we played real good red-zone defense. That wasn’t the case yesterday.” Tennessee scored 28 points off Jets rookie quarterback Geno Smith’s four turnovers. Smith had two fumbles and two interceptions. All of them led to scores for the Titans. Ryan reiterated Smith was not the only Jet to blame for the loss, but he clearly is annoyed with his young signal-caller’s inability to protect the ball. Smith has 11 turnovers through four games, tied with Giants quarterback Eli Manning for the most in the NFL. “You can’t buy experience,” Ryan said. “With that being said, we still have to do a much better job with Geno in particular [thinking], ‘I have to protect the football at all costs.’ You can’t be nonchalant about it. You have to protect the ball. You can talk about it until you’re blue in the face. But when it happens, now you see it over and over. That’s the way we can improve.” Ryan was asked whether he would consider benching Smith to give him some time to watch and learn from the sideline. With Mark Sanchez injured, Matt Simms is second on the depth chart. “It’s not a thought at this point right now,” Ryan said. “Not a thought.” Ryan would like to see Smith take the sack rather than turn the ball over. “You have to be more aware of it like, ‘I’ve got to put two hands on the ball. I can’t just have one hand on a football,’ ” Ryan said. “The one where he fumbled for the touchdown he’s trying to avoid the rush, but at what cost? … We can’t afford to turn the ball over.” Good lcuk with that job as a DC elsewhere in 2014, Big Fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Good lcuk with that job as a DC elsewhere in 2014, Big Fella. Just a pure guess, but I suspect this isn't coming from Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Good lcuk with that job as a DC elsewhere in 2014, Big Fella. Because he's not ready to sit his rookie QB @ 2-2 with 12 games left? lmfao - this site is hilarious. He may very well be fired, but its not going to be because he wouldnt sit Idzik's hand picked QB after a bad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Because he's not ready to sit his rookie QB @ 2-2 with 12 games left? lmfao - this site is hilarious. He may very well be fired, but its not going to be because he wouldnt sit Idzik's hand picked QB after a bad game. Rex will be fired if we continue with the double digit penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Still waiting to hear what we do when Simms gives the ball to the Falcons five times. go back to a well rested Geno. Benching him isn't the same as cutting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 go back to a well rested Geno. Benching him isn't the same as cutting him. I just think musical quarterbacks is a recipe for disaster. If we keep losing -4 turnover margin games, I'll be on board, but it's way too early now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So this must be what quarterback hell feels like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I don't get the concept of benching the rookie QB after 4 games. Yeah the guy was a 2nd round pick, but so was Montana. So was Kapernick. Wilson was a 3rd rounder. Brady was a 6th rounder. It seems Smith is Idzik's guy. The Jets wouldn't have drafted him in the 2nd round of a draft where most of the QBs went later if you didn't think he had a chance of being your future QB. The Jets have a ton of issues. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round who you think is just a waste of a pick either makes Idzik a moron or he actually thinks the kid can be the future QB. Nobody is going to bench Smith after 4 games because he hasn't looked all that impressive. I honestly don't think you bench him at all this season. And Fans love to push for backups all the time. Until that backup sucks and they root for the next guy. Is Simms a for sure disaster? No, but there is a reason the guy is where he is and sometimes it's about some freak injury that might change everything. Kapernick might still be sitting if Alex Smith didn't get hurt. Andrew Luck would be on some other team if Manning didn't miss a season. And Tebow might still be the Broncos starting QB. That's just life. Simms doesn't deserve to just start because people think Smith has looked bad after 4 games. Smith is the future QB of this franchise. At least for this season. If he sucks so bad that they are forced to find somebody else, then so be it. But he was the second QB taken in the Draft because the Jets thought he was good enough to have a chance at being that guy. He might never be that guy, but there are plenty of top 5 picks who never were either, so not sure how that matters. The only difference might be they aren't forced to start Smith for the next 4 years if he really sucks. Other than that, he's the guy and you win with him or lose with him this season. You can't tell a damn thing about a player after 4 games. He hasn't looked good, but it's 4 games into the damn kids NFL career and the Jets, as a team, stink. It's not like Smith is starting for a team who went 15-1 last year and won the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Because he's not ready to sit his rookie QB @ 2-2 with 12 games left? lmfao - this site is hilarious. He may very well be fired, but its not going to be because he wouldnt sit Idzik's hand picked QB after a bad game. So the HC should keep running out a QB who is clearly overmatched and ill-prepared. The behind the back was a new and unique take on buttfumbling. How long you figure he should do this -4 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 go back to a well rested Geno. Benching him isn't the same as cutting him. If you bench him the fragile flowerthat is Geno Smith will wilt and die. His confidence will be destroyed. We should keep playing him no matter what because because because it worked SO WELL with Mark Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Rex will be fired if we continue with the double digit penalties. It will be because of a multitude of things, not one singular thing that this fan or that fan decides is the reason. So the HC should keep running out a QB who is clearly overmatched and ill-prepared. The behind the back was a new and unique take on buttfumbling. How long you figure he should do this -4 seasons? What are his options? This is his new GM's handpicked QB. Idzik I'm sure wants to see how Geno will respond because thats what you do with rookie QB's. You see how they respond, not yank them at the first sign of adversity like a fan screaming in the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 How are you going to find out if Geno can improve on his decisions and fundamentals watching. We need the see if he can be a starter in this league for us- take the lumps and see if he respond with better play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 How are you going to find out if Geno can improve on his decisions and fundamentals watching. We need the see if he can be a starter in this league for us- take the lumps and see if he respond with better play Because Matt Simms is waiting in the wings. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Earth to jets fans there has to be reasons Simms could not QB at Tennessee or get drafted. Not saying he could not improve but very doubtful he is the messiah. I know the backup QB is always the hero until he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Earth to jets fans there has to be reasons Simms could not QB at Tennessee or get drafted. Not saying he could not improve but very doubtful he is the messiah. I know the backup QB is always the hero until he plays No one is saying he is anything more than an alternative fro now. But we'll never know unless you play him. Look, the idiot HC said it was an open camp competition, which by any measure Simms won. His college career had some stupid behavior and some bad luck; may be he's figured it out. But you have to play him to find out. Not seeing anything in Geno Smith that demands he keep the job, and much to show he is not ready right now anyway. The Geno people act like this guy came here with John Elway/Dan Marino rep, and simply no one else thinks so. And above all you are ignoring EXACTLY the same disasterous methodology Wrecks used with Pick 6. So we're gonna repeat THAT? THAT'S THE F___IN' PLAN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Because Matt Simms is waiting in the wings. Duh. Few things in life go together as well as Wrecks in your avatar and the word DUH. DDDUUUUUHHHHHHHHH..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ******* Wrecks. So stupid. Totally should be a pulling a rookie QB who's off to a 2-2 start for a nobody who's never played a down in his life. That's what smart coaches do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Like it or not Smith is going to play because the organization wants him to- if he continues his mistakes he will play himself out of a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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