Smizzy Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 NFL radio Atlanta sends #15 to denver for #29 and 2 additional picks... Atlanta send the Jets Denvers #29 for Abraham. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deadringer Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 its a first rounder for abe, so it works for me...it is higher than the seahawks 31 anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Sweet if it's true. I was happy with #31 in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Mac Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Sign me up! I'm just a little skeptical that Atl would make that deal w/ Denver. Guess it depends where the other 2 picks are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I'll take it, but I would like it much better if we could get Denver's 22nd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderbirdJet Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I'm fine with any deal that gets us a first round pick.... just to establish Tangini as a FO that can't be steamrolled! Rumors on the Falcant's boards... 2006 #2, 2007 #2, and a player. I'd rather get the first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5433076 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5433076 Jay Glazer / FOXSports.com Posted: 7 minutes ago Disgruntled defensive end John Abraham may finally have been traded to the team he was hoping, albeit not in the trade route that was expected. FOXSports.com has learned that the Falcons, Broncos and Jets swung a three-way trade Tuesday in order to make the deal happen that would get Abraham to the Falcons. The deal is also still be reviewed by the league office and all parties are waiting for approval. If the trade is approved, then the Falcons have traded their first-round pick (No. 15 overall) to the Broncos, which traded their first-rounder (No. 29) and two additional picks to Atlanta. The Falcons then send the 29th pick of the draft to the Jets for Abraham. The Jets thus receive a draft pick two slots higher in the first round than the Seahawks were able to offer. Abraham also told FOXSports.com several days ago that he had agreed to the financial parameters of a deal with the Falcons and insisted that was the primary team he wanted to play for. Abraham also talked glowingly about the opportunity to play on a defense with the likes of fellow Pro Bowl defensive end Patrick Kerney as well as Pro Bowler players Keith Booking, DeAngelo Hall and Rod Coleman. Abraham also balked at the idea of moving to the Northwest to play in Seattle. All three teams must get league approval before the trade becomes validated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 This is not fair value for the Jets IMO. Cmon, #29 for Abraham? aaahfargit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxJet Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Jets | Abraham traded in three-team deal Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:56:32 -0800 <A href="http://www.kffl.com/link/14">Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Jets have traded DE John Abraham to the Atlanta Falcons as part of a three-way trade between the Jets, Falcons and the Denver Broncos. If the trade is approved, then the Falcons will have traded their first-round pick, No. 15 overall, to Denver, who in turn will trade their first-round pick, No. 29 overall, and two additional picks to Atlanta. Atlanta then sends the 29th pick to the Jets for Abraham. The Jets would receive a draft pick two slots higher in the first round than the Seattle Seahawks were able to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 This is not fair value for the Jets IMO. Cmon, #29 for Abraham? aaahfargit The highest other offer was the 31st pick. We got the best possible offer that was out there. What's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysxl1200c Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Holy cow, this is on KFFL now!! Im assuming this is real?? Jets | Abraham traded in three-team deal Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:56:32 -0800 Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Jets have traded DE John Abraham to the Atlanta Falcons as part of a three-way trade between the Jets, Falcons and the Denver Broncos. If the trade is approved, then the Falcons will have traded their first-round pick, No. 15 overall, to Denver, who in turn will trade their first-round pick, No. 29 overall, and two additional picks to Atlanta. Atlanta then sends the 29th pick to the Jets for Abraham. The Jets would receive a draft pick two slots higher in the first round than the Seattle Seahawks were able to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 The highest other offer was the 31st pick. We got the best possible offer that was out there. What's the problem? Its probably the best possible thing we could have done, but the Falcons got the better end of the deal in this, by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 What are the 2 picks that Denver gave on top of the 29th overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Holy cow, this is on KFFL now!! Im assuming this is real?? Jets | Abraham traded in three-team deal Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:56:32 -0800 Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the New York Jets have traded DE John Abraham to the Atlanta Falcons as part of a three-way trade between the Jets, Falcons and the Denver Broncos. If the trade is approved, then the Falcons will have traded their first-round pick, No. 15 overall, to Denver, who in turn will trade their first-round pick, No. 29 overall, and two additional picks to Atlanta. Atlanta then sends the 29th pick to the Jets for Abraham. The Jets would receive a draft pick two slots higher in the first round than the Seattle Seahawks were able to offer. Scroll up for the article doodyhead. So what are we now cap-wise with Abe gone? (Figure Dwight to be about $1M even cap-wise I guess & I don't know how much for Kimo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 What are the 2 picks that Denver gave on top of the 29th overall? 3rd and 4th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysxl1200c Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Sorry man got excited. I figure without Abraham we are close to $20M under the cap. Add Dwight at a base salary of probably around $585K and signing bonus proration of $187K so probably closer to $19M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERJET Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Per Adam Shefter on Nfl network 2 minutes ago, the following has been proposed: Atlanta sends their 15th overall pick to Denver for Denver's 29th overall pick, 3rd round, and 4th round picks, then Jets trade Abe to Atlanta for the 29th overall pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietjets Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I know it is the best offer Jets have ever heard but come on. ABE was the mid 1st rounder and had gone to pro bowl almost every year.. Jets get 29th overall selection... That sucks. I rather to keep ABe instead.. Oh man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 woops wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Abe did not really want to be here and Mangini obviously thought he was not the guy to build a defense around- 29th pick is not the greatest but at least a good player will be there for our pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietjets Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 3rd and 4th round. JA, 3rd and 4th rounders for just 15th overall selection... Damn, that is rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 What are the 2 picks that Denver gave on top of the 29th overall? Though I saw somewhere it was rumored to be a 2nd in '06 and '07. It would add up almost perfectly using that value chart. Atlanta's #15 pick = 1050 Denver's #29 pick = 640 Denver's #61 pick = 292 Denver's #93 pick = 128 (value of Denver's 2007 2nd-rounder) TOTAL = 1060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I'm hoping the Jets don't something stupid now and use this pick and the #4 pick to move up...STAY WHERE THE **** YOU ARE!!! Any chance of Mangold being there at 29? Would love to see D'brick and Mangold in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Though I saw somewhere it was rumored to be a 2nd in '06 and '07. It would add up almost perfectly using that value chart. Atlanta's #15 pick = 1050 Denver's #29 pick = 640 Denver's #61 pick = 292 Denver's #93 pick = 128 (value of Denver's 2007 2nd-rounder) TOTAL = 1060 Adam Schefter reported that it is Denver's 3rd and 4th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I know it is the best offer Jets have ever heard but come on. ABE was the mid 1st rounder and had gone to pro bowl almost every year.. Jets get 29th overall selection... That sucks. I rather to keep ABe instead.. Oh man. Abe was worth neither $8.3M for one year nor a $50M+ contract with a SB in the $15-18M range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 they would only get the 29th pick....thats it...no other picks...??? negative.. no go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 3rd and 4th round. Just out of curiosity, why couldn't we just go straight up Abe and our 4th for the 15th overall? That's about as good as ATL getting DEN's 3rd and 4th with Abe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeniorFlaJet Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 The way I see it is that of the first 36 picks we have 3 picks. Plus besides our 3rd pick there may be a 3rd comp pick for Jordan. Plus we have 2 picks in the 4th. If we don't trade up for a QB there is a chance to get a lot of value with all those picks and start rebuilding the Jets. I agree with those who feel that we got the best we could for ABe given the demand for him kind of dried up in recent days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I'm hoping the Jets don't something stupid now and use this pick and the #4 pick to move up...STAY WHERE THE **** YOU ARE!!! Any chance of Mangold being there at 29? Would love to see D'brick and Mangold in the first round. I agree. I am also worried that the Jets will now use the 4th pick on Mario Williams and then draft offensive line help at 29. If it means you are pidgeon-holed into drafting Williams in the top five because Abe is gone, then why the **** trade Abraham in the first place? If the team is bad enough to get a top five pick, you use it to fill a hole with an impact player. You don't create a new hole and then blow your ridiculously high draft pick on patching it up. As for Mangold, he should be there at 29, but it seems like the Jets are high on Norm Katnik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaborJet Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Ok...it's done. So who thinks they will use both of their #1's to trade up for Leinert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Ok...it's done. So who thinks they will use both of their #1's to trade up for Leinert? what do you mean its done..????? they did it or just talkin about it?? im confused...are we getting anything else besides the 29th??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesAngleton Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I actually think this is good because assuming the Vikings' offer (our #4 for their #17, #48 & #51) is true we can pull off the following 1st Round: #17 & #29 2nd Round: #35, #49 & #50 I would take Gabe Watson at #17, Demeco Ryans at #29, Max Gene Gilles at #35 and Sinorese Moss at #49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Adam Schefter reported that it is Denver's 3rd and 4th rounder. Then what was all that BS from Atlanta that their 2nd & 3rd has more "chart" value than their #15 pick. Then they go & make a trade for even lower chart value: 1(22) #29 = 640 3(29) #93 = 128 4(29) #125 = 47 ---------- total = 815 Atlanta's 1(15) pick valued at 1050 Trade advantage = Denver +235 = value of our 3(7) pick Denver moves up from #29 to #15 for VERY late 3rd & 4th; We get a first rounder for Abe better than the Seattle offer; Atlanta gets Abe for 1(15), 3(29), and 4(29) Did they even ask us if we'd take 1(15) for Abe + our 3rd-rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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