BlackDynamite Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Stephen Hill, WR, Rookie, New York Jets 6'4" 215 lbs 39" vertical leap 40 yards in 4.32 28 YPC at GT Stephen Hill doesn't need to catch 60 passes to have a huge impact on the Jets offense this season. He is the most physically gifted, and most dangerous, player the Jets have on offense. He has a speed and height advantage on every CB in the NFL. Defenses will notice that..... It's Sparano's job to MAKE SURE THAT DEFENSES NOTICE THAT! Just running him down the field should draw a couple of defenders, and make life easier for Holmes and Keller. He's a decoy, but just throwing the ball 20-30 yards down the field in his direction, just 3-4 times a game, will keep the defense honest, and make the rest of the offense better. The main problem the Jets had last year is defenses knew they wouldn't, and couldn't, stretch the field more than 10-15 yards. Makes playing defense so much easier when you play inside a prison cell instead of a football field. Stephen Hill can change that, if used correctly. Watch how Sparano and Sanchez use Hill this season. It's kind of important in the Jets success, or lack thereof, on offense this season..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 32 catches, 475 yards, 3 TDs, 12 drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 If Hill is a "key" to our success, we are screwed. The guy can't catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Just running him down the field should draw a couple of defenders, and make life easier for Holmes and Keller. He's a decoy, but just throwing the ball 20-30 yards down the field in his direction, just 3-4 times a game, will keep the defense honest, and make the rest of the offense better. I agree, but he has to perform as well. That is to say, he has to show some ability to catch the football. If he doesn't do that then the threat won't be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 32 catches, 475 yards, 3 TDs, 12 drops. HE'S LIKE A YOUNG BRAYLON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 If Hill is a "key" to our success, we are screwed. The guy can't catch. Hey, at least he can block. Downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 His rep coming out of Ga.Tech was he failed to catch or dropped a mess of balls. Preseason may mean very little but so far those issues are still with him. Further this offense is designed to run first,and when it does throw, dumps off or throws swing passes into the flats. WRs are an afterthought by design. We have a host of posters who decry the awfulness of the Jets' WR corps, but simply it almost doesn't matter. Whether it's Sanchez or Tebow neither is throwing a mess of fly nor go routes, and they will only be asked to throw 7-9 yards on the rare occasion they are asked to pass at all. Why in such an offense you don't have a decent 2/5s of an OL, a decent RB or 2 blocking TEs-a total mystery. Ask our accountant why. But primo WRs are pointless on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 His rep coming out of Ga.Tech was he failed to catch or dropped a mess of balls. Preseason may mean very little but so far those issues are still with him. Indeed, but after you factor in that huge negative, how was he still a top 3-5 WR in the draft? Because he has big time strengths too - speed, size, athleticism. Why in such an offense you don't have a decent 2/5s of an OL, a decent RB or 2 blocking TEs-a total mystery. Ask our accountant why. But primo WRs are pointless on purpose. It's tough to line up 5 pro-bowl players on a single offensive line, so we just have 3. Woe is us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hill caught 5 and dropped two last game. I can deal with that ratio from a rook, especially if they are 20 yards down the field...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranick10 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 We're going to need him to perform well in order wo move the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 His rep coming out of Ga.Tech was he failed to catch or dropped a mess of balls. Preseason may mean very little but so far those issues are still with him. Further this offense is designed to run first,and when it does throw, dumps off or throws swing passes into the flats. WRs are an afterthought by design. We have a host of posters who decry the awfulness of the Jets' WR corps, but simply it almost doesn't matter. Whether it's Sanchez or Tebow neither is throwing a mess of fly nor go routes, and they will only be asked to throw 7-9 yards on the rare occasion they are asked to pass at all. Why in such an offense you don't have a decent 2/5s of an OL, a decent RB or 2 blocking TEs-a total mystery. Ask our accountant why. But primo WRs are pointless on purpose. Meh, if this offense is anything like the one in Miami under Sparano....Marshall and Bess got plenty of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Stephen Hill, WR, Rookie, New York Jets 6'4" 215 lbs 39" vertical leap 40 yards in 4.32 28 YPC at GT Stephen Hill doesn't need to catch 60 passes to have a huge impact on the Jets offense this season. He is the most physically gifted, and most dangerous, player the Jets have on offense. He has a speed and height advantage on every CB in the NFL. Defenses will notice that..... It's Sparano's job to MAKE SURE THAT DEFENSES NOTICE THAT! Just running him down the field should draw a couple of defenders, and make life easier for Holmes and Keller. He's a decoy, but just throwing the ball 20-30 yards down the field in his direction, just 3-4 times a game, will keep the defense honest, and make the rest of the offense better. The main problem the Jets had last year is defenses knew they wouldn't, and couldn't, stretch the field more than 10-15 yards. Makes playing defense so much easier when you play inside a prison cell instead of a football field. Stephen Hill can change that, if used correctly. Watch how Sparano and Sanchez use Hill this season. It's kind of important in the Jets success, or lack thereof, on offense this season..... BD You just may be right. One of the missing ingredients in my mind last year was Braylon and the ability to stretch the field. I like Stephen Hill. At the draft I thought Alshon Jeffrey was more polished but liked how we targeted Hill. He may be raw but he's athletically gifted with a good work ethic. Give him a year or two and he could develop into our most explosive offensive player in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 It's still early but he looks clueless out there. I'm feeling a Johnny Lam Jones for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 My predictions for Hill this season: 35 recs 600 yards 5 TDs 12-15 drops Write it down, take a picture of it, I don't give a...... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richarddavis220 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Stephen Hill, WR, Rookie, New York Jets 6'4" 215 lbs 39" vertical leap 40 yards in 4.32 28 YPC at GT Stephen Hill doesn't need to catch 60 passes to have a huge impact on the Jets offense this season. He is the most physically gifted, and most dangerous, player the Jets have on offense. He has a speed and height advantage on every CB in the NFL. Defenses will notice that..... It's Sparano's job to MAKE SURE THAT DEFENSES NOTICE THAT! Just running him down the field should draw a couple of defenders, and make life easier for Holmes and Keller. He's a decoy, but just throwing the ball 20-30 yards down the field in his direction, just 3-4 times a game, will keep the defense honest, and make the rest of the offense better. The main problem the Jets had last year is defenses knew they wouldn't, and couldn't, stretch the field more than 10-15 yards. Makes playing defense so much easier when you play inside a prison cell instead of a football field. Stephen Hill can change that, if used correctly. Watch how Sparano and Sanchez use Hill this season. It's kind of important in the Jets success, or lack thereof, on offense this season..... BD that was mot his officil combine time. we like the guy but lies will not help his cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 that was mot his officil combine time. we like the guy but lies will not help his cause Jets also tested him at 4.32 at his Pro Day. He told them he could run a 4.3 time, and he proved it to them. That's why they took him..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Jets also tested him at 4.32 at his Pro Day. He told them he could run a 4.3 time, and he proved it to them. That's why they took him..... BD He's super fast in underwear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 He's hidden because his key only works if the real, unhidden key works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richarddavis220 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 i like the guy. but in pads he doesnt look that fast holmes looks faster. although im rooting for him, for sure!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 You can post any measurables you want for this guy, but he did not look anywhere near as athletic as that when the game started. He looked awkward and overwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 i like the guy. but in pads he doesnt look that fast holmes looks faster. although im rooting for him, for sure!!!!!!!! I think the way it "looks" is a function of his size: he has a bigger stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richarddavis220 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 yeah . im a roy williams fan has same long stride issue.there faster than they apear , however hill needs to strengthen up, he's a rook im sure he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 He's built exactly like Randy Moss, and will run mostly deep patterns like Moss Moss turned out alright..... BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richarddavis220 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 bd i hope so. but moss had soft hands hope he does,,,,,,i really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Hill caught 5 and dropped two last game. I can deal with that ratio from a rook, especially if they are 20 yards down the field...... BD Not when those two drops cost a 3rd down conversion to keep a drive going and the other is a bouce off the numbers which turns into a pick. You'll get tired of that by week 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDynamite Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Not if he makes 5 twenty yard receptions a game, one for a TD BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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