flgreen Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 What we learned on Day 2 of minicamp June, 12, 2013 Jun 12 9:05 PM ET By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- A few takeaways from Wednesday: 1. Winslow a keeper: Free agent TE Kellen Winslow, Jr., attending minicamp on a tryout basis, has done enough to earn a contract. No one is saying he's ... well, Kellen Winslow, Sr. -- or a young Junior, for that matter -- but he's a functional tight end with some receiving skills. That's good enough for this team. Interesting scene: Winslow and QB Matt Simms, sons of football royalty, have side-by-side lockers and chat every day. They could probably tell some stories. 2. Edge, Sanchez: Listening to QBs coach David Lee reaffirmed what I believed (and wrote) after last week's OTAs: Rookie QB Geno Smith, learning an entirely new offense, has a ways to go. Lee called it an even competition, but there's no doubt Mark Sanchez would start if the season started today. 3. Holmes alert: Maybe Santonio Holmes was just being stubborn, which tends to happen when he faces the media, but it sure sounded like he won't be ready for training camp. He described rehab from foot surgery as "learning to walk again." Will he be ready for the regular season? That's the real question. He wasn't too expansive on that topic, either, but the sense is that he'll be ready by Week 1. 4. MartyBall: OC Marty Mornhinweg took a break from his pass-happy approach to concentrate on the running game in practice. They ran out of various formations, including some gimmick runs. It's hard to get a feel for new RB Chris Ivory, a physical runner who should excel once the pads go on. 5. Down Hill: Maybe he's still feeling the effects of knee surgery. Maybe he's thinking too much, struggling with a new offense. Those would be legitimate reasons for Stephen Hill to be dropping so many passes. But this is a no-excuses business, and he's not winning the confidence of the braintrust as the offseason comes to an official close Thursday with the conclusion of minicamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'm pretty concerned with Hill. He just doesn't seem to be maturing into the receiver we all hoped he'd become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 It took Laverneus Coles almost two years to start producing. Still, the thing that bothers me is that according to this report he's still dropping passes. Getting used to the offense and not knowing where to run I can understand. But if you can't hold onto the ball when you get there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie2013 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I dont read a word CimAhole writes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Hill is a concern. We all heard "stone hands" and "butterfingers" when he was drafted but a lot of it was dismissed as him being "raw." He didn't play a full season, but he shouldn't be this "raw" at this point. You're a WR, dude. Catch something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 cimini is doosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Hill is a concern. We all heard "stone hands" and "butterfingers" when he was drafted but a lot of it was dismissed as him being "raw." He didn't play a full season, but he shouldn't be this "raw" at this point. You're a WR, dude. Catch something. Most WRs take 3 years to matriculate in the NFL. Any that do it quicker than that are either special, or playing with a special QB. IMO nothing to worry about... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 to fix the drops it's not hard. all that needs to happen is practice. Stephen Hill should be living with a jugs machine every day. catch 1000 balls a day and the drops will go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 to fix the drops it's not hard. all that needs to happen is practice. Stephen Hill should be living with a jugs machine every day. catch 1000 balls a day and the drops will go away.It worked for Jenna Jameson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 How does someone already have a legitimate knee injury before MC even starts? Dude is gonna be a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 How does someone already have a legitimate knee injury before MC even starts? Dude is gonna be a waste. Because he's a naturally gangly 180 lb kid who juiced like a race horse to get his 40 time down and his weight up, hoping some idiot GM would be blinded by his track numbers and ignore his lack of ability to play WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'd venture to guess some folks from within are wondering if Hill's even an NFL player. If there were to be the next GHolston in green and white in terms of a looks great in the hotel lobby player, but cant run without tripping...Hill would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Geno just hooked up with Hill on a long one according to Twitter.....and Hill caught it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Holmes offered some depressing quotes on his injury. He said he had to learn to walk again and that the injury makes you really wonder what you can do physically. Of course, we know it's all an act, he's a cancer not a human, and likely any press without a haz-mat suit was ****ed yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 to fix the drops it's not hard. all that needs to happen is practice. Stephen Hill should be living with a jugs machine every day. catch 1000 balls a day and the drops will go away. How would playing with juggs help him on the football field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 How would playing with juggs help him on the football field? I guess it would depend on how big they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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