joewilly12 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Here we go again questioning yet another #1 draft pick. What the hell is wrong with this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 the strip fumble that Richardson recovered was an awful home field call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Here we go again questioning yet another #1 draft pick. What the hell is wrong with this organization. We're allowing players to compete for starting jobs. I see nothing wrong with this. Can we wait until Milliner has played more than 2 games before claiming Idzik doesn't know what he's doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share Posted September 13, 2013 We're allowing players to compete for starting jobs. I see nothing wrong with this. Can we wait until Milliner has played more than 2 games before claiming Idzik doesn't know what he's doing? What about the picks before Idzik? Vernon Gholston comes to mind at this point in time we should have been seeing dividends from previous years draft picks instead of talking failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter3m Jets benched CB Dee Milliner Thursday night. But people who watched Jets this summer said Milliner struggled mightily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 What about the picks before Idzik? Vernon Gholston comes to mind at this point in time we should have been seeing dividends from previous years draft picks instead of talking failure. Really? You're gonna talk ancient history now? Tannenbaum is gone. Through 2 weeks it already looks like Idzik made a great call on at least 2 of his first 3 picks (Richardson and Geno). Few teams get a starting-caliber QB in round 2 or later. For every Geno there's a lot of Jimmy Clausen's and Kellen Clemens'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 the strip fumble that Richardson recovered was an awful home field call. Brutal. It's one of those plays where you know it's a fumble watching all the replays, but tell yourself it's going to be overturned for no other reason than that's just what seems to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Wait. Who is questioning a first round pick after two games coming off of an injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Brutal. It's one of those plays where you know it's a fumble watching all the replays, but tell yourself it's going to be overturned for no other reason than that's just what seems to happen. Surprised they overturned the touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Milliner cannot cover -- he might be OK in a zone, but is regularly beaten in man coverage. Doesn't look like he is much of a tackler, either. Yeah, I know it's been two games but we're not talking about minor correction or smoothing out some rough edges. He simply doe not pass the eyeball test. Just like Wilson did not pass the test as rookie. No team can afford to whiff on picks this high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Surprised they overturned the touchdown. I could see the ball move a little bit, but I always hear the referee say that it's a touchdown the second he catches the ball and is in the endzone, which is what happened. What surprises me is that they overturned both of them; I didn't think there was enough evidence to overturn either of those calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 the strip fumble that Richardson recovered was an awful home field call. What do you expect? This has been happening to the Jets since I can remember. The refs have a "letter of apology" that they send to the Jets EVERY year for some egregious error they make in a game they officiate. The Jets are a franchise that NEVER fails to disappoint. They disappoint the bookmakers who expect them to live up to being 11 point underdogs, they disappoint the bettors who bet they will be 11 point losers and mostly they disappoint their own fans who expect them to WIN winnable games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Milliner cannot cover -- he might be OK in a zone, but is regularly beaten in man coverage. Doesn't look like he is much of a tackler, either. Yeah, I know it's been two games but we're not talking about minor correction or smoothing out some rough edges. He simply doe not pass the eyeball test. Just like Wilson did not pass the test as rookie. No team can afford to whiff on picks this high. These types of proclamations are crazy. I'm concerned too but to state anything so definitive this early is careless. Maybe Week 14 I can start to understand if it's the same deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Really? You're gonna talk ancient history now? Tannenbaum is gone. Through 2 weeks it already looks like Idzik made a great call on at least 2 of his first 3 picks (Richardson and Geno). Few teams get a starting-caliber QB in round 2 or later. For every Geno there's a lot of Jimmy Clausen's and Kellen Clemens'. You think Geno has already proven to be a good draft pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You think Geno has already proven to be a good draft pick? His schtick is getting a tad bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 His schtick is getting a tad bizarre. There is some deep, deep homerism going on lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 His schtick is getting a tad bizarre. This is an incredibly ironic post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 This is an incredibly ironic post. I know, pointing out Geno doesnt throw a good deep ball is apparently schtick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm still waiting to see a go route for a touchdown myself. Brady could have had 3 of them last night if his guys hung onto the ball. Geno's were way off the mark. The one to gates was terrible underthrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm still waiting to see a go route for a touchdown myself. Brady could have had 3 of them last night if his guys hung onto the ball. Geno's were way off the mark. The one to gates was terrible underthrown. The Jets first play from scrimmage ended up being a jump ball. It should have been a touchdown if he hits Powell in stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The Jets first play from scrimmage ended up being a jump ball. It should have been a touchdown if he hits Powell in stride. I forgot about that one too. Yeah there were quite a few the first two games. I would still like to see Simms out there. Geno is not ready and I'm not sure he ever will be. But I guess we are supposed to play well with everyone and pretend he is a good NFL QB right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Walls played well. that is all that matters when it comes to Millner. He will come around, I hope. When he can outplay walls, he will start again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I agree, Walls has looked good. Milliner never covered that well in college, my hope was that our scouting department knew more then me. I guess I was wrong about that one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I agree, Walls has looked good. Milliner never covered that well in college, my hope was that our scouting department knew more then me. I guess I was wrong about that one again. lol what are you smoking He isnt use to backpedling tho so rex is gonna have to coach him up. That being said most rookie cbs struggle its one of those positions that need time to transition walls is good tho im happy with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 lol what are you smoking He isnt use to backpedling tho so rex is gonna have to coach him up. That being said most rookie cbs struggle its one of those positions that need time to transition walls is good tho im happy with him So he can't backpedal - but he was a good cover corner in college? High school kids can backpedal. He never really played the ball well in college and was always sort of awkward. His measurables are undeniable. His skills on the field leave a lot to be desired at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Put Milliner at safety and I bet he a beast! He actually has the body type to fit a safety and since his man to man cover skills are weak he may adapt better. Obviusly now would be a bit premature to do something like that but maybe that would be an option before we called him a bust in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Put Milliner at safety and I bet he a beast! He actually has the body type to fit a safety and since his man to man cover skills are weak he may adapt better. Obviusly now would be a bit premature to do something like that but maybe that would be an option before we called him a bust in the future That is a really good idea. Probably early like you said - but his body type is more safety-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 That is a really good idea. Probably early like you said - but his body type is more safety-like. He has been credited for having ball hawking skills but not so much for man to man coverage. He is a play maker type corner....no where near a shutdown corner like Revis was. He is always gonna let up the big play but he will be making the big play too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He has been credited for having ball hawking skills but not so much for man to man coverage. He is a play maker type corner....no where near a shutdown corner like Revis was. He is always gonna let up the big play but he will be making the big play too. I could see him being a good zone corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I loved that Rex benched him. Showed some balls and accountability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 So he can't backpedal - but he was a good cover corner in college? High school kids can backpedal. He never really played the ball well in college and was always sort of awkward. His measurables are undeniable. His skills on the field leave a lot to be desired at this point. in sabans system u dont backpedal he was by far the best cover corner in college i dont get it. ps: body type? isnt he the exact same size as revis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 in sabans system u dont backpedal he was by far the best cover corner in college i dont get it. Kinda hard to know if that is infact the case. Dominant front 7's can cover up for bad corners, and Bama had a dominant front 7. I don't buy the backpedal thing. Every corner knows how to backpedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Well he was supposed to be like the top corner coming out- so a lot of people woulld be wrong if he does not show produce. Please let it play out you want to shift his position already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I loved that Rex benched him. Showed some balls and accountability. But what i dont get, Tom...is why wasn't half the wide receiving corps benched? Why hasnt he ever pulled sanchez in the past and benched him? It seems he got beef with Milliner more for whatever reason. Well I know the reason actually, its bc Idzik traded away his cornerback and gave him Milliner in his place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Kinda hard to know if that is infact the case. Dominant front 7's can cover up for bad corners, and Bama had a dominant front 7. I don't buy the backpedal thing. Every corner knows how to backpedal. look it up. Its a known fact that saban doesnt want them to. He can backpedel obviously but wasnt taught it so there is some time needed. Corner is normally a slow developing position for first year players so i wouldnt be suprised if he isnt to great this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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