Smo0v3mik3 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Do you guys think where looking for a free agent running back? Or get one thought the draft.. I think a young running back out of the draft would be a good investment.. 2nd round or later.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Probably not a bad idea to draft a fast RB who has good hands. We can then let him learn under Powel how to Pass block and such and Powel can then get 2nd string RB time in the game like he has earned. But, if they get a FA like Spiller or someone else so be it. It will just be more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 We're fine with Ivory , Powell and a late rd pick. My suggestion draft Varga who dominated the Senior Bowl and looks like Peyton Hillis. We'll have a qb from Harvard and Rb from Yale. Ivy League connection baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I think they know we need one. They were involved in both Vereen and Helu. Love Ivory but you have to limit his touches or he'll get hurt, runs too violently. Powell is a replacement level player. I really think they try to get Gordon, whether that means trading up into the end of the 1st round or just hoping he falls to us in the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 we need speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I saw on another sight that Bradshaw is taking a physical with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I saw on another sight that Bradshaw is taking a physical with us? Interesting. Should be cheap. He is always hurt and I think he got arrested last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Interesting. Should be cheap. He is always hurt and I think he got arrested last month. Sounds too perfect to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I rather draft one, RB isn't valued as much as it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I rather draft one, RB isn't valued as much as it used to be. Today's nfl is all about the receiver and tight end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Interesting. Should be cheap. He is always hurt and I think he got arrested last month. Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Sounds too perfect to be true. Idzik special! Pass I probably agree. Still, his numbers were not bad last year. 4.7 ypc on a team with a 3.9 average. 6 receiving TDs. He is good or hurt and won't get the kind of contract that forces the team to keep him if a pick, UDFA or Richardson (Darryl, not Trent) beats him out in camp. He got under $1M last year and can't expect more now. If they don't sign him, he is probably a good guy to have on the radar in case of emergency during the preseason/season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I hear Mike Goodson is probably available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I hear Mike Goodson is probably available Lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 we need speed Exactly...haven't had a real home run threat at RB since Leon Washington. I never understand that BTW. It's like this franchise hates the thought of a fast RB. Drove me nuts when we had Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene. They were good players, but with the holes that offensive line used to open, a faster back would have been a nice addition.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Exactly...haven't had a real home run threat at RB since Leon Washington. I never understand that BTW. It's like this franchise hates the thought of a fast RB. Drove me nuts when we had Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene. They were good players, but with the holes that offensive line used to open, a faster back would have been a nice addition.. In 2004 Cumars longest run was 25 yds and I don't remember anyone complaining and he was no speed demon.. TJ has the Jet record for rushing yards in a regular season plus td's..And Greene played great in the playoffs and had some long runs for td's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Exactly...haven't had a real home run threat at RB since Leon Washington. I never understand that BTW. It's like this franchise hates the thought of a fast RB. Drove me nuts when we had Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene. They were good players, but with the holes that offensive line used to open, a faster back would have been a nice addition.. Um.... they just cut the fastest RB in history. He was not very good, but he certainly was fast. FWIW, I think that Idzik put a premium on speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Exactly...haven't had a real home run threat at RB since Leon Washington. I never understand that BTW. It's like this franchise hates the thought of a fast RB. Drove me nuts when we had Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene. They were good players, but with the holes that offensive line used to open, a faster back would have been a nice addition.. They don't hate the idea of a fast RB, it's just that fast RB's seem to rarely stay healthy. The ones who do get paid tons of money. It's also harder to find 3rd down RB's than you think. They need speed, hands, AND need to have the ability to pass block. Ask the Broncos what happens when you have RB's who can't block. One of your top playmakers (Julius Thomas) is forced to stay in to block, leaving Demaryius Thomas blanketed in coverage. Peyton's bum calf wasn't the only reason their offense took a downturn last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 In 2004 Cumars longest run was 25 yds and I don't remember anyone complaining and he was no speed demon.. TJ has the Jet record for rushing yards in a regular season plus td's..And Greene played great in the playoffs and had some long runs for td's.. Right...that's why I said they were good backs....but the number of times I saw either of those guys get caught from behind was a lot higher than you'd like. I'm talking about the fact that they rarely drafted or never traded for a faster RB. I liked Curtis, but I complained about it back then too. In his first few seasons, Lamont Jordan was faster than Curtis and rarely got a carry. Martin went so far as to say "There are things he can do that I can't" but Herm just kept running Cumar with bad ankles and all. LJ got one carry against the Raiders in Oakland, busted a 49 or 51 (I forget) yd touchdown and I don't think he touched the ball again that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 They don't hate the idea of a fast RB, it's just that fast RB's seem to rarely stay healthy. The ones who do get paid tons of money. It's also harder to find 3rd down RB's than you think. They need speed, hands, AND need to have the ability to pass block. Ask the Broncos what happens when you have RB's who can't block. One of your top playmakers (Julius Thomas) is forced to stay in to block, leaving Demaryius Thomas blanketed in coverage. Peyton's bum calf wasn't the only reason their offense took a downturn last year. Right, but my point is that there rarely ever seemed to be an effort to bring one in. Late round pick or trade a mid-rounder for somebody who can take it the distance. There are some guys who could make huge plays behind a line like the one they had. The Eagles picked up Darren Sproles for a 4th rounder...that's the kind of player I'm referring to. The past is the past but as I said, that was something that always drove me nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Right, but my point is that there rarely ever seemed to be an effort to bring one in. Late round pick or trade a mid-rounder for somebody who can take it the distance. There are some guys who could make huge plays behind a line like the one they had. The Eagles picked up Darren Sproles for a 4th rounder...that's the kind of player I'm referring to. The past is the past but as I said, that was something that always drove me nuts. Outside of 1 or 2 games last year Sproles was awful. Granted, so was Shady, meaning it was likely an OL thing. I think drafting RB's in the mid-rounds is a sound strategy. RB is a plug n play position so there should be little need to sign or trade for veteran RB's. Nor is investing early rounders on RB's typically wise either. Just look what happened to Trent Richardson and Doug Martin. And even the teams who have great RB's don't tend to win at the highest level. All the Super Bowl winners in the last decade outside of the Marshawn Lynch-led Seahawks tend to go Running Back by committee. It's just a matter of drafting the RIGHT guys with those mid-round picks, and avoiding giving a bum like Shonn Greene a "1st round grade". Granted, I've advocated for signing Spiller, but only if the price is right. It's just not a position you need to invest heavily on. The shelf life is just so short for RB's, and the risks so high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan4hire Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Love to get Gurley or Gordon in the 2nd or move up in late 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Um.... they just cut the fastest RB in history. He was not very good, but he certainly was fast. FWIW, I think that Idzik put a premium on speed. Right, but what I was talking about was running backs who are fast and good....not just a track star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Outside of 1 or 2 games last year Sproles was awful. Granted, so was Shady, meaning it was likely an OL thing. I think drafting RB's in the mid-rounds is a sound strategy. RB is a plug n play position so there should be little need to sign or trade for veteran RB's. Nor is investing early rounders on RB's typically wise either. Just look what happened to Trent Richardson and Doug Martin. And even the teams who have great RB's don't tend to win at the highest level. All the Super Bowl winners in the last decade outside of the Marshawn Lynch-led Seahawks tend to go Running Back by committee. It's just a matter of drafting the RIGHT guys with those mid-round picks, and avoiding giving a bum like Shonn Greene a "1st round grade". Granted, I've advocated for signing Spiller, but only if the price is right. It's just not a position you need to invest heavily on. The shelf life is just so short for RB's, and the risks so high. I was only referring to skill set and what he's capable of. I get all of what you're saying and don't disagree. My only point is that I would often wonder why the Jets would go years at a time without trying to get a game-breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I was only referring to skill set and what he's capable of. I get all of what you're saying and don't disagree. My only point is that I would often wonder why the Jets would go years at a time without trying to get a game-breaker. And my argument would be the old regimes had been trying. Does Leon Washington not qualify? Tomlinson? McKnight sucked but he was a USC running back, was that not an attempt? You don't generally find game breakers in the 3rd-5th rounds. Who have we been missing out on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 And my argument would be the old regimes had been trying. Does Leon Washington not qualify? Tomlinson? McKnight sucked but he was a USC running back, was that not an attempt? You don't generally find game breakers in the 3rd-5th rounds. Who have we been missing out on? You can call it an argument, I'll go with conversation. I named Washington as the last one they had so yes, I would say he quailifies. Tomlinson wasn't the same player with the Jets that he was with San Diego but he was still damn good. McKnight was an attempt but they never gave him a shot. He had one career game with 20+ carries and he ran for 158 yards. Never featured him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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