afosomf Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 a 15 yard penalty that potentially wins the game Whether or not brown got hurt isn't even the point. Millions of players have gotten hurt on legitimate plays. That particular hit by Burfict on that particular play was not illegal. yes it was, brown was a defenseless WR, this gets called 100% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 a 15 yard penalty that potentially wins the game Whether or not brown got hurt isn't even the point. Millions of players have gotten hurt on legitimate plays. That particular hit by Burfict on that particular play was not illegal. Flag came out immediately. Hit was illegal and was flagged, not because he was injured. You can say it was legal all you want. It wasn't and being in concussion protocol on Monday doves nothi no for anyone. If he woke up today without a concussion they were picking up the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 yes it was, brown was a defenseless WR, this gets called 100% of the time really? Ryan Shazier didn't get called for the same exact play when he injured Giovanni Bernard earlier in the game and then celebrated 100% give me a f-cking break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Flag came out immediately. Hit was illegal and was flagged, not because he was injured. You can say it was legal all you want. It wasn't and being in concussion protocol on Monday doves nothi no for anyone. If he woke up today without a concussion they were picking up the flag. it was not illegal it wasn't helmet to helmet Burfict lowers his shoulder pad to avoid it it was an incidental contact. If you guys are so outraged where was this outrage earlier in the game when Ryan Shazier did the same exact play, injured Bernard and then celebrated with no flag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 really? Ryan Shazier didn't get called for the same exact play when he injured Giovanni Bernard earlier in the game and then celebrated 100% give me a f-cking break. Dude Bernard was not defenseless he was a runner at that point, that said it was a penalty as Shazier used the crown of his helmet. Defenseless WR is a different rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Flag came out immediately. Hit was illegal and was flagged, not because he was injured. You can say it was legal all you want. It wasn't and being in concussion protocol on Monday doves nothi no for anyone. If he woke up today without a concussion they were picking up the flag. The concussion protocol is a joke. They were reporting on 98.5 in Boston this morning he is already out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Dude Bernard was not defenseless he was a runner at that point, that said it was a penalty as Shazier used the crown of his helmet. Defenseless WR is a different rule. nope wrong again Bernard was a receiver on that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 nope wrong again Bernard was a receiver on that play. Dude you are an idiot and do not know the rules, maybe your avatar has given u Tx's minute brain. bernard was not DEFENSELESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The concussion protocol is a joke. They were reporting on 98.5 in Boston this morning he is already out of it. Concussion doesn't change the penalty. The hit was flagged immediately. There's no advantage to putting him into concussion protocol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 it was not illegal it wasn't helmet to helmet Burfict lowers his shoulder pad to avoid it it was an incidental contact. If you guys are so outraged where was this outrage earlier in the game when Ryan Shazier did the same exact play, injured Bernard and then celebrated with no flag? They missed the call on the Sazier hit. I agree, it was a penalty. It's two different plays and just because they missed one earlier why should they not flag this one against Burfict. Especially since they didn't know they missed it. The logic doesn't work. The hit on brown was illegal. Everyone thinks so other than a few Steeler haters. I guess, whether it was or wasn't doesn't change my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Monday mornings at JetNation is always a must read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Dude you are an idiot and do not know the rules, maybe your avatar has given u Tx's minute brain. bernard was not DEFENSELESS hey genius the rule also states the player doing the hit needs both of his feet to leave the ground for the hit to be illegal which did not happen on the Burfict hit on Brown My point is neither hit was illegal. The call on Burfict was arbitrary and contrary to the rules. Google it since you don't even know the rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 They missed the call on the Sazier hit. I agree, it was a penalty. It's two different plays and just because they missed one earlier why should they not flag this one against Burfict. Especially since they didn't know they missed it. The logic doesn't work. The hit on brown was illegal. Everyone thinks so other than a few Steeler haters. I guess, whether it was or wasn't doesn't change my life. neither play was illegal under the rules as written. Shazier should have gotten unsportsmanlike for celebrating Bernard's injury however refs had a love fest with the steelers Saturday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 neither play was illegal under the rules as written. Shazier should have gotten unsportsmanlike for celebrating Bernard's injury however refs had a love fest with the steelers Saturday night No, he hit Bernard with the crown of his helmet. Illegal play. And the hit on brown was an illegal play. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Ignoring the rulebook is fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 hey genius the rule also states the player doing the hit needs both of his feet to leave the ground for the hit to be illegal which did not happen on the Burfict hit on Brown My point is neither hit was illegal. The call on Burfict was arbitrary and contrary to the rules. Google it since you don't even know the rule I am guessing who have no clue what a defenseless WR is. If that ref doesnt throw a flag on Burfict, he is looking for a job Monday. Brown was defenseless on a ball severely overthrown and Burficts hit was beyond stupid. You need to look up the rule on what a defenseless WR is, most here know it, you have no clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 there was just 18 seconds left in game, i expect brown to play and practice this week. I could be wrong. bigger issue is Ben who had to be shot up to get back in game I guess he wasn't acting..... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/15/steelers-rule-out-antonio-brown/ Steelers rule out Antonio Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I guess he wasn't acting..... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/15/steelers-rule-out-antonio-brown/ Steelers rule out Antonio Brown yep apologies from me to AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Dude Bernard was not defenseless he was a runner at that point, that said it was a penalty as Shazier used the crown of his helmet. Defenseless WR is a different rule. He hit him flush helmet-to-helmet. That is the VERY definition on what they are supposedly trying to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 He hit him flush helmet-to-helmet. That is the VERY definition on what they are supposedly trying to stop. It was a penalty I said that, It was shoulder to helmet though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 If he's in protocol he has one. They put them in protocol immediately and can take them out minutes later. If he's still in he's had some level of concussion. Explain one advantage to faking a concussion. Not really true. Once a player is in Protocol,and the symptoms have completely subsided, the player again performs more comprehensive neuropsychological tests interpreted by the team neuropsychologist. It is a 6 step process, if the player is progressing, he would be become eligible for increased physical activity. The workouts would ramp up over a few days if no symptoms occur. Once a team doctor signs off on a player's return, the player is evaluated in person by an unaffiliated concussion expert physician approved by both the NFL and NFL Players Association. This unaffiliated expert also must sign off on the player's health before he is allowed to return to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 so? doesnt me he has one bub. this is procedural. He will play in game and practice most of week So. Wanna admit you idiocy yet? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I don't believe the Pats have won a true road playoff game since 2005 No $hit, all the Pats playoff games have been at Foxboro since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Not really true. Once a player is in Protocol,and the symptoms have completely subsided, the player again performs more comprehensive neuropsychological tests interpreted by the team neuropsychologist. It is a 6 step process, if the player is progressing, he would be become eligible for increased physical activity. The workouts would ramp up over a few days if no symptoms occur. Once a team doctor signs off on a player's return, the player is evaluated in person by an unaffiliated concussion expert physician approved by both the NFL and NFL Players Association. This unaffiliated expert also must sign off on the player's health before he is allowed to return to play. Dude, I was taking if his symptoms go away or aren't what the player initially thought he had. When a player is taken into the locker and tested it doesn't mean he's done for a week or two. Or if he's in after the game he could miss 1 week, 2 or more. Every case is different, that's all I'm saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 No way, i guarantee you he plays next week, a penalty yes, a vicious hit no way. the bernard hit was vicious, Brown will be practicing all week Guess you blew this one. Maybe shouldn't have argued as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 No $hit, all the Pats playoff games have been at Foxboro since then. They adroitly avoid the Meadowlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Guess you blew this one. Maybe shouldn't have argued as much Heh I always said it was a penalty, didnt look to me like a vicious hit. I already apologized mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Dude, I was taking if his symptoms go away or aren't what the player initially thought he had. When a player is taken into the locker and tested it doesn't mean he's done for a week or two. Or if he's in after the game he could miss 1 week, 2 or more. Every case is different, that's all I'm saying I must have misunderstood. I thought you said "they put him in protocol", Because once he is in protocol, it takes several days to get out. They even have "eyes in the sky" observers that can call down to the bench to request a player be submitted to a set of side line concussion tests, including oral response, and balance tests. If the team physician determines that the player is displaying symptoms of a concussion, and removes him from the field, he is automatically placed in concussion protocol. Once that happens, he can't be re examined in the locker room at half time, declared Healed, and returned to the field. Trainers have to stay with him for the day and determine if he can be sent home, or if he must go to the hospital. The following day he must be re-examined. Every time before he enters any physical activity like practice, weight training, ect he must be examined again. Until both the team doctor, and an unaffiliated expert clear him to play. This doesn't mean that he won't play the following week, but once he is removed from a game, "put in protocol" he can not return to that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Heh I always said it was a penalty, didnt look to me like a vicious hit. I already apologized mon as you should, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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