SenorGato Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/15/pro-pffs-top-75-free-agents-of-2016/ Quote 6. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE 2015 team: New York Giants JPP did not play as well against the run as he has in the past, but 41 total pressures and six batted passes in half a season proved he can still make an impact. Basically the same thing as the Cardinals signing Dwight Freeney, except younger with fewer fingers. Still an effective pass rusher for a defense that specifically could use a guy who knows how to do that from an outside position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Only of we get a 5 finger discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Only of we get a 5 finger discount. Nicely done. But I have to wonder what is with the obsession with cheap this, cheap that? Didn't we try this during the Idzik years? What you want is VALUE-FOR-MONEY, not CHEAP. Huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, jgb said: Nicely done. But I have to wonder what is with the obsession with cheap this, cheap that? Didn't we try this during the Idzik years? What you want to VALUE-FOR-MONEY, not CHEAP. Huge difference. Especially for a guy who had 1 sack in 8 games last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 If JPP comes cheap, I'd sign him. After these surgeries he should be able to work up to "full" strength for 2016 training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'd take 10-finger JPP. 8 finger JPP I'd have to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'm down with this if we can get JPP with the 5 finger discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 We haven't had a legitimate pass rush since John Abraham many experiments have failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'd love to see JPP knock Brady senseless with that club of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 4 hours ago, jgb said: Nicely done. But I have to wonder what is with the obsession with cheap this, cheap that? Didn't we try this during the Idzik years? What you want is VALUE-FOR-MONEY, not CHEAP. Huge difference. A pass rusher who probably is looking for a one year deal for a million or two isn't the worst way to get some VALUE-FOR-MONEY. 6 PDs in half a season for a DE that almost blew his hand off is pretty badass, and is a nice little indicator of a still possibly quality defender against the pass. 41 pressures isn't so bad either. Keep in mine when talking about cheap that the highest ranked FA the Jets will actually have a shot at is Wilkerson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A pass rusher who probably is looking for a one year deal for a million or two isn't the worst way to get some VALUE-FOR-MONEY. 6 PDs in half a season for a DE that almost blew his hand off is pretty badass, and is a nice little indicator of a still possibly quality defender against the pass. 41 pressures isn't so bad either. Keep in mine when talking about cheap that the highest ranked FA the Jets will actually have a shot at is Wilkerson. Yeah I got noting against giving it a shot but "cheap" isn't short hand for what you just said. It's the wrong word and it stands for a different idea. "Bargain" is a better word as it signifies a thing is worth more than you paid. Dirt is cheap, but also nearly worthless. Maybe I am being too picky I don't know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Sign him on a one year deal. Low rush, high reward. If he ends up returning to his old ways, let him walk the next season and hope for a compensation pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Isn't he supposedly going to command a big payday though? Sports radio (which I am not giving any credibility to, just using them as an example since I haven't heard anything else about JPP) is saying he would be in the 10 - 12 million a season area. I am not interested at that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Ghost said: Sign him on a one year deal. Low rush, high reward. If he ends up returning to his old ways, let him walk the next season and hope for a compensation pick. Jets are allowed to sign players once they perform well, you know. You can't compete with 53 $2m/year players. 1 hour ago, pointman said: Isn't he supposedly going to command a big payday though? Sports radio (which I am not giving any credibility to, just using them as an example since I haven't heard anything else about JPP) is saying he would be in the 10 - 12 million a season area. I am not interested at that price. Agree, one year show me deal probably in his future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Doesn't fit the 3-4, horrible versus the run and more suited to play Luke Skywalker in a empire Strikes Back remake. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 21 hours ago, jgb said: Jets are allowed to sign players once they perform well, you know. You can't compete with 53 $2m/year player. Yeah, that's not what was being said. 14 hours ago, drdetroit said: Doesn't fit the 3-4, horrible versus the run and more suited to play Luke Skywalker in a empire Strikes Back remake. Pass. Doesn't have to fit the 3-4, this is specifically about getting a pass rusher. No different than the Cardinals picking up late career Dwight Freeney for their defense. 3rd and passing down player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Doesn't have to fit the 3-4, this is specifically about getting a pass rusher. No different than the Cardinals picking up late career Dwight Freeney for their defense. 3rd and passing down player. It is exactly what was said in the post I responded to. Sign him cheap, if he does well get a compensatory pick. No consideration to actually then paying him for performance. You should read the posts people are responding to for context and stuff. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 On 2/18/2016 at 7:39 PM, CrazyCarl40 said: Especially for a guy who had 1 sack in 8 games last season. He won't be playing with the club next year. He had Fitzpatrick sacked but he couldn't grab him, so the club slipped right off. That said, he is a one dimensional player that is much easier to block because of his physical limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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