CTM Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 10 hours ago, dbatesman said: Gee golly, I wonder why Maybe he's under the fallacious notion that Mcg sucking somehow means Idzik didn't, but we all know Tom is a really super smart guy so that's unlikely. Maybe he thinks that since mcG sucks it was pointless to run Idzik out of town, but of course you miss 100% of the swings you don't take so it's likely not that. Maybe he's just an a$$hole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, CTM said: Maybe he's under the fallacious notion that Mcg sucking somehow means Idzik didn't, but we all know Tom is a really super smart guy so that's unlikely. Maybe he thinks that since mcG sucks it was pointless to run Idzik out of town, but of course you miss 100% of the swings you don't take so it's likely not that. Maybe he's just an a$$hole? I'm only, like, the fifth smartest guy in this website and, like, the 12th biggest a$$hole. I have similar rankings on OKCupid, fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 8 hours ago, T0mShane said: Idzik was a high-ranking member of personnel departments with the Buccaneers when they built their Super Bowl roster, then with the Cardinals when they built their Super Bowl roster, then again with the Seahawks when they built their Super Bowl roster. The Jaguars have operated like a professional football front office since he took a job there and have put together two very good offseasons. Everywhere he's gone, success has coincidentally followed. He takes the Jets job, gets told from day one he has to keep a coach who is currently an absolute pariah in league circles, inherits a scouting staff that once thought Shonn Greene was a first rounder, wisely elects to start over, and gets his legs cut out from under him because of a sh*tty draft class that included six picks made in the fifth round or later. All true, the Jags went 5-11 and then 3-13 since Idzik got there as Caldwells Dwight Schrute. So he's well on his way to building another dynasty there and it's not really debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, CTM said: All true, the Jags went 5-11 and then 3-13 since Idzik got there as Caldwells Dwight Schrute. So he's well on his way to building another dynasty there and it's not really debatable. Sweet. Now do Maccagnan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: Sweet. No do Maccagnan. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 44 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I'm only, like, the fifth smartest guy in this website and, like, the 12th biggest a$$hole. I have similar rankings on OKCupid, fwiw. Oh come on! - Your definatly Top 5,a$$hole. Don't do yourself down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: Idzik was a high-ranking member of personnel departments with the Buccaneers when they built their Super Bowl roster, then with the Cardinals when they built their Super Bowl roster, then again with the Seahawks when they built their Super Bowl roster. The Jaguars have operated like a professional football front office since he took a job there and have put together two very good offseasons. Everywhere he's gone, success has coincidentally followed. He takes the Jets job, gets told from day one he has to keep a coach who is currently an absolute pariah in league circles, inherits a scouting staff that once thought Shonn Greene was a first rounder, wisely elects to start over, and gets his legs cut out from under him because of a sh*tty draft class that included six picks made in the fifth round or later. poor Idziot...nobody to coattail when he got here (and JAG btw)....you'll be sorry tho he good he good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: Idzik was a high-ranking member of personnel departments with the Buccaneers when they built their Super Bowl roster, then with the Cardinals when they built their Super Bowl roster, then again with the Seahawks when they built their Super Bowl roster. The Jaguars have operated like a professional football front office since he took a job there and have put together two very good offseasons. Everywhere he's gone, success has coincidentally followed. He takes the Jets job, gets told from day one he has to keep a coach who is currently an absolute pariah in league circles, inherits a scouting staff that once thought Shonn Greene was a first rounder, wisely elects to start over, and gets his legs cut out from under him because of a sh*tty draft class that included six picks made in the fifth round or later. Go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, CTM said: Maybe he's under the fallacious notion that Mcg sucking somehow means Idzik didn't, but we all know Tom is a really super smart guy so that's unlikely. Maybe he thinks that since mcG sucks it was pointless to run Idzik out of town, but of course you miss 100% of the swings you don't take so it's likely not that. Maybe he's just an a$$hole? Can't speak for Tom, but for me it's more that Maccagnan is basically indistinguishable from Idzik save the former's propensity for flushing money down the toilet, but the same people who paid for the billboards are ready to open a Gofundme to put a Maccagnan statue outside Gate D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 10 hours ago, T0mShane said: Idzik was a high-ranking member of personnel departments with the Buccaneers when they built their Super Bowl roster, then with the Cardinals when they built their Super Bowl roster, then again with the Seahawks when they built their Super Bowl roster. The Jaguars have operated like a professional football front office since he took a job there and have put together two very good offseasons. Everywhere he's gone, success has coincidentally followed. He takes the Jets job, gets told from day one he has to keep a coach who is currently an absolute pariah in league circles, inherits a scouting staff that once thought Shonn Greene was a first rounder, wisely elects to start over, and gets his legs cut out from under him because of a sh*tty draft class that included six picks made in the fifth round or later. You actually believe this and it's adorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 56 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Go on 14 minutes ago, JiF said: You actually believe this and it's adorable. Identify the false statement herein: Idzik was a high-ranking member of personnel departments with the Buccaneers when they built their Super Bowl roster, then with the Cardinals when they built their Super Bowl roster, then again with the Seahawks when they built their Super Bowl roster. The Jaguars have operated like a professional football front office since he took a job there and have put together two very good offseasons. Everywhere he's gone, success has coincidentally followed. He takes the Jets job, gets told from day one he has to keep a coach who is currently an absolute pariah in league circles, inherits a scouting staff that once thought Shonn Greene was a first rounder, wisely elects to start over, and gets his legs cut out from under him because of a sh*tty draft class that included six picks made in the fifth round or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 29 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Can't speak for Tom, but for me it's more that Maccagnan is basically indistinguishable from Idzik save the former's propensity for flushing money down the toilet, but the same people who paid for the billboards are ready to open a Gofundme to put a Maccagnan statue outside Gate D. Well mcgag isn't one of those math fags so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Identify the false statement herein: Idzik was a high-ranking member of personnel departments with the Buccaneers when they built their Super Bowl roster, then with the Cardinals when they built their Super Bowl roster, then again with the Seahawks when they built their Super Bowl roster. The Jaguars have operated like a professional football front office since he took a job there and have put together two very good offseasons. Everywhere he's gone, success has coincidentally followed. He takes the Jets job, gets told from day one he has to keep a coach who is currently an absolute pariah in league circles, inherits a scouting staff that once thought Shonn Greene was a first rounder, wisely elects to start over, and gets his legs cut out from under him because of a sh*tty draft class that included six picks made in the fifth round or later. The only accurate statement is highlighted and the rest is full of sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, JiF said: The only accurate statement is highlighted and the rest is full of sh*t. Does UF charge tuition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, CTM said: Well mcgag isn't one of those math fags so... Huzzah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Does UF charge tuition? #6 homey http://new.time.com/money/best-colleges/rankings/best-public-colleges/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 There is nothing to be gained from being the 10th worst team in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 On 6/7/2017 at 9:09 PM, T0mShane said: The real story here is that Bowles' support system around the league is closing ranks around him--possibly at his request--and it's about to get dirty in Florham. The good news is that stories like this will guarantee Bowles' exit at the end of the season. The bad news is that no coach with options will ever work for Woody Johnson again. Bowles is simply not good HC period, which has little or nothing to do with Woody Johnson. Johnson took the advice of former GM's like Charley Casserly to hire Bowles and clearly it was a mistake. I don't think firing him will be a detriment to anyone not wanting to coach the Jets. Not having a QB may be though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: Can't speak for Tom, but for me it's more that Maccagnan is basically indistinguishable from Idzik save the former's propensity for flushing money down the toilet, but the same people who paid for the billboards are ready to open a Gofundme to put a Maccagnan statue outside Gate D. Indistinguishable? Look at the draft record please dbatesman. Idzik completely wasted 12 picks starting with grade A bust Calvin Pryor. So far Mac hasn't had any glaring busts, but Hackenberg will make or break him most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Ex-Rex said: Indistinguishable? Look at the draft record please dbatesman. Idzik completely wasted 12 picks starting with grade A bust Calvin Pryor. So far Mac hasn't had any glaring busts ROFL LMFAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Media feeding the beast. Nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 And BTW, I dont see any Jets hate on Twitter. So nobody is really laughing at us. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does it make a sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 44 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: And BTW, I dont see any Jets hate on Twitter. So nobody is really laughing at us. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does it make a sound No ones laughing because it's true. Also the best thing is we finish bottom 3. Finish the job and grab a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Wish we grabbed a mid-round QB and at least given ourselves a puncher's chance at finding the next Dak or R. Wilson. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Bowles had a very good year as a Rookie coach, with areas that needed improving As a second year coach he was terrible in all phases. Let's see where year 3 goes. No one is firing Hue after 1-15. The team held together-it just was talentless. Bowles needs to do the same thing, which is why the vets were cut. They are the ones that create morale problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 On 6/13/2017 at 9:46 AM, T0mShane said: Identify the false statement herein: Idzik was a high-ranking member of personnel departments with the Buccaneers when they built their Super Bowl roster, then with the Cardinals when they built their Super Bowl roster, then again with the Seahawks when they built their Super Bowl roster. The Jaguars have operated like a professional football front office since he took a job there and have put together two very good offseasons. Everywhere he's gone, success has coincidentally followed. He takes the Jets job, gets told from day one he has to keep a coach who is currently an absolute pariah in league circles, inherits a scouting staff that once thought Shonn Greene was a first rounder, wisely elects to start over, and gets his legs cut out from under him because of a sh*tty draft class that included six picks made in the fifth round or later. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I can't believe he had the restraint to drop the mic and walk away on the math fags line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Why would anyone pay money to see this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 They have a plan, problem is the key to the plan is to draft well, and we've seen no evidence that it is likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, jgb said: They have a plan, problem is the key to the plan is to draft well, and we've seen no evidence that it is likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yucatan Jetfan Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Typo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuma Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 hours ago, thadude said: Why would anyone pay money to see this team? They should give us free tacos and Mexican cokes to sit through having to watch this muck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I think if you look at what the Raiders have done since Reggie McKenzie took over looks very similar to what Macc has been doing with the Jets. McKenzie came in and spent money on older player to try and make a competitive team. That strategy did not work and fans, media and everyone were calling for McKenzie to be fired. He broke it down in year 3 and got lucky in the draft Mack, Amari Cooper, and Derek Carr. He built a young foundation and sprinkled in role players. I say lucky because Derek Carr could have easily been the guy that went to the Browns when they traded back into the first and made the poor choice of Johnny Manzel. Here is the reality, what the Jets are doing right now we have not seen them do before. 10+ years ago the Jets kept fan favorites Marvin Jones and Mo Lewis with their high salary who were on the decline. That decision to keep those guys for what they did in past years, saw a promising young LB leave via Free Agency in James Farrior who went on to have a solid career. This brings to David Harris, Nick Mangold, and Revis: These guys were great for us and will someday go into our Ring of Honor buy it is time to say thank you and allow these young guys to take over in Demario Davis/Darron Lee, Wesely Johnson, Justin Burris, and throw in our young WR crew as well. Our record may not be great next year, but I am actually excited to see these young guy's play, take their bumps and bruises, and grow to build the new foundation for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 7 hours ago, PoconoJetFan said: Typo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Out of the gate ON FIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 7 hours ago, Azuma said: They should give us free tacos and Mexican cokes to sit through having to watch this muck. Sounds like a plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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