ZACH WILSON isn’t on the Jets anymore discussion (merged)

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

I’m actually kind of excited to see who’ll be the first one to tell us why it’s actually good that Zach Wilson isn’t at that Broncos passing camp thing. 

"Let the kid focus on planning his dream wedding"

[Matt39]

3 hours ago, bicketybam said:

You should put that on your resume. "I was right about Zach Wilson." It's an impressive achievement.

It’s the first sentence of my cover letter 

[Jetsfan80]

4 hours ago, bicketybam said:

You should put that on your resume. "I was right about Zach Wilson." It's an impressive achievement.

DONE

[Rich Thornburgh]

4 hours ago, bicketybam said:

You should put that on your resume. "I was right about Zach Wilson." It's an impressive achievement.

I was one of the people who thought Zach was Mahomes 2.0.  I subscribe to Chris Simms’s podcast

[Jetsfan80]

@T0mShane @Matt39 the cocoon Zach was provided the first 3 years of his career is over.  Finally, the knives are coming out for him.

 

https://predominantlyorange.com/posts/new-broncos-quarterback-not-doing-himself-any-favors-in-competition-01j2h6xq4t8w

New Broncos quarterback not doing himself any favors in competition

Is Zach Wilson making the right decision?

By Sayre Bedinger | 10:00 AM MDT

 

The Denver Broncos are throwing former 2nd overall pick Zach Wilson a lifeline in the 2024 offseason. The Broncos made a trade with the New York Jets to acquire Wilson the week of the 2024 NFL Draft, and Wilson gets a fresh start outside of New York after three years of struggling in an unstable situation.

The idea of Wilson resurrecting his career in Denver feels a little bit far-fetched, but getting him with Sean Payton could end up being huge over time. Payton has done wonders for a number of quarterbacks who were discarded or thought to be "cooked", including some former high draft picks who would have been considered reclamation projects (Jameis Winston, Teddy Bridgewater).

Everybody approaches the offseason differently, especially the time between minicamp and training camp. A handful of Broncos players gathered at what's being labeled "Camp Stiddy", a week of bonding and throwing sessions hosted by Jarrett Stidham. Among those in attendance at this week of throwing sessions include Broncos rookie QB Bo Nix as well as some of the team's top playmakers: Courtland Sutton, Tim Patrick, Marvin Mims, Jaleel McLaughlin, Adam Trautman, and others.

Notably absent from these throwing sessions was Zach Wilson. Everyone wondered aloud where he might be since getting that chemistry with his new receivers would seem to be important. For whatever reason, Wilson is training in his home state of Utah throwing to a Nebraska football commit...

 

 

Wilson is putting in work, which is great. But from a Broncos fan's perspective, it's hard to justify the fact that there is a team workout happening and Wilson isn't part of it.

It's the offseason so it's easy to overreact to stuff like this, but this kind of does feel like a big deal. Bo Nix and Jarrett Stidham can show up to the throwing session together but Zach Wilson can't? Wilson might not get a ton of reps with the 1st-team offense throughout the course of training camp and the preseason, so wouldn't you think he would want to do anything he could to put the bug in the ears of guys like Tim Patrick and Courtland Sutton, two leaders on this team?

Again, Wilson is working out, which is great. It's not like he's sitting on his hands and hoping for the best. But given the fact that he's in a brand-new situation where he has a legitimate chance to make an impression, it's surprising that he would skip these throwing sessions. Not only that, but this group of guys has planned to take some time to get to know one another better through bonding and hanging out.

There's a stark contrast between guys like Stidham and Nix, who understand the importance of that, and Wilson, who seemingly doesn't. That may seem like a super harsh judgment on the guy, but the perception of Wilson is what it is at this point. He wasn't good enough to skate by on his talent alone in New York. Additional steps need to be taken to get better. If your teammates and best receivers are going to a throwing session, he's in a spot where he should absolutely be joining them, not working out on his own and throwing to high school players.

Even though the Stidham throwing sessions weren't team-sanctioned, it seems like it would have been super important for Wilson to be there with his teammates and he's not doing himself any favors by skipping and doing his own thing.

[Jetsfan80]

lmfao.  @Matt39 VINDICATED.  He refuses to leave Utah until he absolutely has to.

 

 

Notably absent from these throwing sessions was Zach Wilson. Everyone wondered aloud where he might be since getting that chemistry with his new receivers would seem to be important. For whatever reason, Wilson is training in his home state of Utah throwing to a Nebraska football commit...

 

 

Thoughts, @Jet Nut, @Dunnie, @TuscanyTile2?

[Rich Thornburgh]

People actually believe Wilson is working out in Utah on his own.😆

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

People actually believe Wilson is working out in Utah on his own.😆

Zach skipped out on Camp Stiddy to throw with a guy he'll be covering on the Big 10 Network in a year or 2.

Wonder what excuse he'll have for skipping out on Camp Nix next week?

[bicketybam]

You absolutely never pass up a chance to throw spirals with Jarrett Sidham!

[Rich Thornburgh]

Just now, bicketybam said:

You absolutely never pass up a chance to throw spirals with Jarrett Sidham!

Or 20 other skill position players on your team

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

You absolutely never pass up a chance to throw spirals with Jarrett Sidham!

Every significant pass-catcher on the team (outside of Javonte Williams) is in Texas right now, including unquestioned WR1 Courtland Sutton.  A QB who cares about endearing himself to teammates and wants to increase his chances of making the team makes that trip.  He doesn't stay in Utah to throw passes to a High Schooler instead.

[Rich Thornburgh]

7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Zach skipped out on Camp Stiddy to throw with a guy he'll be covering on the Big 10 Network in a year or 2.

Wonder what excuse he'll have for skipping out on Camp Nix next week?

Wilson must have stunk it up in broncos OTA’s.  It’s probably just as toxic a locker room in Denver as it was here. He knows it’s over for him and he’s just sticking around (sorta) for the guaranteed $12 million paycheck 

 

Garbage in, Garbage out

[bicketybam]

10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

lmfao.  @Matt39 VINDICATED.  He refuses to leave Utah until he absolutely has to.

 

 

Notably absent from these throwing sessions was Zach Wilson. Everyone wondered aloud where he might be since getting that chemistry with his new receivers would seem to be important. For whatever reason, Wilson is training in his home state of Utah throwing to a Nebraska football commit...

 

 

Thoughts, @Jet Nut, @Dunnie, @TuscanyTile2?

Do the guys who said you'd never get laid until your 30's constantly rub it in your face about how right they were? You seem a bit broken 😞 

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, bicketybam said:

Do the guys who said you'd never get laid until your 30's constantly rub it in your face about how right they were? You seem a bit broken 😞 

I didn't have much in the way of expectations of getting laid in my 20s so its pretty moot, my guy.

[Matt39]

28 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

lmfao.  @Matt39 VINDICATED.  He refuses to leave Utah until he absolutely has to.

 

 

Notably absent from these throwing sessions was Zach Wilson. Everyone wondered aloud where he might be since getting that chemistry with his new receivers would seem to be important. For whatever reason, Wilson is training in his home state of Utah throwing to a Nebraska football commit...

 

 

Thoughts, @Jet Nut, @Dunnie, @TuscanyTile2?

I sniffed that out a while ago. He was going back there during bye weeks. Year 1 you got the sense he wasn’t ever going to commit to NY.

[bicketybam]

18 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Every significant pass-catcher on the team (outside of Javonte Williams) is in Texas right now, including unquestioned WR1 Courtland Sutton.  A QB who cares about endearing himself to teammates and wants to increase his chances of making the team makes that trip.  He doesn't stay in Utah to throw passes to a High Schooler instead.

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

lmfao.  @Matt39 VINDICATED.  He refuses to leave Utah until he absolutely has to.

 

 

Notably absent from these throwing sessions was Zach Wilson. Everyone wondered aloud where he might be since getting that chemistry with his new receivers would seem to be important. For whatever reason, Wilson is training in his home state of Utah throwing to a Nebraska football commit...

 

 

Thoughts, @Jet Nut, @Dunnie, @TuscanyTile2?

At the time he was saying it ZW owned a condo and was staying with his now fiancé.  Apples and oranges

Regardless of how little this has to do with Matt actually believing a millionaire flying to Utah means he’s Denver’s problem now, I don’t care.  You guys can circle this one 

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

There's a stark contrast between guys like Stidham and Nix, who understand the importance of that, and Wilson, who seemingly doesn't. That may seem like a super harsh judgment on the guy, but the perception of Wilson is what it is at this point. He wasn't good enough to skate by on his talent alone in New York. Additional steps need to be taken to get better. If your teammates and best receivers are going to a throwing session, he's in a spot where he should absolutely be joining them, not working out on his own and throwing to high school players.

[bicketybam]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I didn't have much in the way of expectations of getting laid in my 20s so its pretty moot, my guy.

[Jetsfan80]

52 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

At the time he was saying it ZW owned a condo and was staying with his now fiancé.  Apples and oranges

Regardless of how little this has to do with Matt actually believing a millionaire flying to Utah means he’s Denver’s problem now, I don’t care.  You guys can circle this one 

Thanks.  We accept your surrender.  

[Warfish]

2 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

People actually believe Wilson is working out in Utah on his own.😆

I heard he was actually in Egypt.

[Rich Thornburgh]

44 minutes ago, Warfish said:

I heard he was actually in Egypt.

Rough life for Zach

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Thanks.  We accept your surrender.  

Believe whatever you want.  

[Jetsfan80]

10 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Believe whatever you want.  

[GangGreened]

He isn’t going to make the final roster anyway, maybe he knows that already.

[The Crusher]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

lmfao.  @Matt39 VINDICATED.  He refuses to leave Utah until he absolutely has to.

 

 

Notably absent from these throwing sessions was Zach Wilson. Everyone wondered aloud where he might be since getting that chemistry with his new receivers would seem to be important. For whatever reason, Wilson is training in his home state of Utah throwing to a Nebraska football commit...

 

 

Thoughts, @Jet Nut, @Dunnie, @TuscanyTile2?

 

[Matt39]

37 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

He isn’t going to make the final roster anyway, maybe he knows that already.

Not sure how this doesn’t bug you if you’re a Jets fan. Jets knowingly playing a guy who won’t beat out Jarrett Stidham and also had all hands on deck covering for him. 

[rex-n-effect]

4 hours ago, Matt39 said:

I sniffed that out a while ago. He was going back there during bye weeks. Year 1 you got the sense he wasn’t ever going to commit to NY.

Excuse me but traveling is no big deal with all of JetBlue at his disposal.

[Rich Thornburgh]

11 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Not sure how this doesn’t bug you if you’re a Jets fan. Jets knowingly playing a guy who won’t beat out Jarrett Stidham and also had all hands on deck covering for him. 

That’s why I laugh at Zach Justice Warriors trying to argue somehow Trey Lance was a bigger bust.  Did 49ers fans have to sit through 3 full seasons of watching him stink?  Did the 49ers trade players who criticized Lance behind closed doors?

 

and then there’s the small matter of Zach being drafted ahead of Lance

[Matt39]

9 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

That’s why I laugh at Zach Justice Warriors trying to argue somehow Trey Lance was a bigger bust.  Did 49ers fans have to sit through 3 full seasons of watching him stink?  Did the 49ers trade players who criticized Lance behind closed doors?

 

and then there’s the small matter of Zach being drafted ahead of Lance

Zach was protected by the front office for reasons 

[TBJ]

Quarterback Zach Wilson appears to be just fine without New York Jets.

AND ALL YOU UNGRATEFUL "FANS!"

https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/former-jets-teammates-congratulate-qb-zach-wilson-on-major-milestone-ralph9

[TBJ]

New Broncos quarterback not doing himself any favors in competition

https://predominantlyorange.com/posts/new-broncos-quarterback-not-doing-himself-any-favors-in-competition-01j2h6xq4t8w

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

19 minutes ago, TBJ said:

New Broncos quarterback not doing himself any favors in competition

https://predominantlyorange.com/posts/new-broncos-quarterback-not-doing-himself-any-favors-in-competition-01j2h6xq4t8w

LOL 🤣

In Utah throwing to a Nebraska commit instead of with his actual teammates trying to develop chemistry / trust.

[Joe W. Namath]

21 pages on Zach.  Its hysterical how much this kid owns jet fans.

[Jetsfan80]

26 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

LOL 🤣

In Utah throwing to a Nebraska commit instead of with his actual teammates trying to develop chemistry / trust.

He's used to having a regime that traded away guys who complained about him so he thinks building chemistry is overrated.