Popular Post Sarge4Tide Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 You can break an NFL 90 man roster into 5 broad categories: Absolute Locks to Make the Team Players Very Likely to Make the Team Players on the Bubble who Seem Likely to Make It Players on the Bubble who Seem Unlikely to Make It Longshots By my count, there are 6 players in Category 4 who can move up with a good training camp. For the purposes of this discussion, I am not including Izzy Abanikanda since he is the most obvious player and has been talked about extensively Jason Brownlee WR The subject of almost daily glowing practice reports and acrobatic catches on social media and he certainly looks the part of an NFL WR. Played A LOT of snaps in the Jets last 3 games of 2023 and had a nice TD vs the Redskins....Commanders. Right now, he's at best the #5 WR and probably #6 behind Xavier Gipson. With special teams ace Irvin Charles also in the mix, Brownlee is going to have to play his way onto the roster with a strong preseason. Best case scenario for him is beating out Gipson if the Jets find another viable punt returner at another position Kenny Yeboah TE Conklin and Ruckert are locks at TE. Yeboah is a solid veteran, core special teams player, good blocker, and can catch a pass. The wildcard is 2nd year player Zack Kuntz. He's a giant at 6-8 and is rumored to have developed a strong rapport with Arron Rodgers during the off season. If Kuntz shows he can't be a reliable blocker or if Yeboah has a big pre-season, who knows? Eric Watts DL People raved about the UDFA out of UCONN in the off season and mini camp. Is he the real deal? Is he big enough and strong enough to contribute on an NFL defensive line in 2024? The Jets d line looks pretty stout and there are solid vets like Jalyn Holmes and Bruce Hector also fighting for a spot. Watts is a true "feel good" story so far, but the clock might strike midnight for him unless he shows out in the pre-season. Worst case scenario is the practice squad, best case scenario is beating out a vet to earn a spot. Zaire Barnes LB 2023 draftee who looked good in the preseason but got hurt, missed a lot of the season, played on special teams in a few games then got hurt again. We saw the potential last year, but with the improved play of Jamien Sherwood and Sam Equavoen being a strong special teamer, Barnes is fighting for a #5 LB spot which might not even exist. Vets Chazz Surratt and Marcelino-McCrary Ball will also be in the mix. It will be a difficult path for Barnes, but he is still in with a chance if he can stay healthy Jaylen Key S Mr. Irrelevant from the draft is the classic "tweener" - a bit too slow to be a safety and a bit too small to be a LB. But he's tough and a good tackler. I'm sure the Jets would love for him to end up on the practice squad. But, he will have plenty of opportunities to play in the preseason and if he can turn some heads, look good on special teams, and maybe contribute at LB, he could sneak into the very last roster spot. Jarrick Bernard-Converse DB There were times at LSU when JBC looked like a 1st round pick as a CB. He's got good length and natural cover abilities. But then he suffered a foot injury and his stock dropped. He's another tweener - not quite a CB and not quite a S. He has some versatility and still has potential. Came off of the injured list and played in the Jets last 8 games of 2023, almost exclusively on Special Teams. We will watch him closely this preseason to see where he plays. He might be battling CFL alum Qwan'tez Stiggers, another S/CB hybrid for the final spot in the secondary 9 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 5 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: You can break an NFL 90 man roster into 5 broad categories: Absolute Locks to Make the Team Players Very Likely to Make the Team Players on the Bubble who Seem Likely to Make It Players on the Bubble who Seem Unlikely to Make It Longshots By my count, there are 6 players in Category 4 who can move up with a good training camp. For the purposes of this discussion, I am not including Izzy Abanikanda since he is the most obvious player and has been talked about extensively Jason Brownlee WR The subject of almost daily glowing practice reports and acrobatic catches on social media and he certainly looks the part of an NFL WR. Played A LOT of snaps in the Jets last 3 games of 2023 and had a nice TD vs the Redskins....Commanders. Right now, he's at best the #5 WR and probably #6 behind Xavier Gipson. With special teams ace Irvin Charles also in the mix, Brownlee is going to have to play his way onto the roster with a strong preseason. Best case scenario for him is beating out Gipson if the Jets find another viable punt returner at another position Kenny Yeboah TE Conklin and Ruckert are locks at TE. Yeboah is a solid veteran, core special teams player, good blocker, and can catch a pass. The wildcard is 2nd year player Zack Kuntz. He's a giant at 6-8 and is rumored to have developed a strong rapport with Arron Rodgers during the off season. If Kuntz shows he can't be a reliable blocker or if Yeboah has a big pre-season, who knows? Eric Watts DL People raved about the UDFA out of UCONN in the off season and mini camp. Is he the real deal? Is he big enough and strong enough to contribute on an NFL defensive line in 2024? The Jets d line looks pretty stout and there are solid vets like Jalyn Holmes and Bruce Hector also fighting for a spot. Watts is a true "feel good" story so far, but the clock might strike midnight for him unless he shows out in the pre-season. Worst case scenario is the practice squad, best case scenario is beating out a vet to earn a spot. Zaire Barnes LB 2023 draftee who looked good in the preseason but got hurt, missed a lot of the season, played on special team in a few games then got hurt again. We saw the potential last year, but with the improved play of Jamien Sherwood and Sam Equavoen being a strong special teamer, Barnes is fighting for a #5 LB which might not even exist. Vets Chazz Surratt and Marcelino-McCrary Ball will also be in the mix. It will be a difficult path for Barnes, but he is still in with a chance if he can stay healthy Jaylen Key S Mr. Irrelevant from the draft is the classic "tweener" - a bit too slow to be a safety and a bit too small to be a LB. But he's tough and a good tackler. I'm sure the Jets would love for him to end up on the practice squad. But, he will have plenty of opportunities to play in the preseason and if he can turn some heads, look good on special teams, and maybe contribute at LB, he could sneak into the very last roster spot. Jarrick Bernard-Converse DB There were times at LSU when JBC looked like a 1st round pick as a CB. He's got good length and natural cover abilities. But then he suffered a foot injury and his stock dropped. He's another tweener - not quite a CB and not quite a S. He has some versatility and still has potential. Came off of the injured list and played in the Jets last 8 games of 2023, almost exclusively on Special Teams. We will watch him closely this preseason to see where he plays. He might be battling CFL alum Qwan'tez Stiggers, another S/CB hybrid for the final spot in the secondary Outstanding job Sarge!! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I think Brownlee (eventually) replaces Lazard. I am also curious to see how Lazard responds to an awful first season with us and having Rogers back. Is Brownlee eligible for the PS again? If so then he is stashed there. In my opinion it's good to have these problems. It shows how much talent we've added under Douglas. So difficult to evaluate the offense when the Qb was the worst in the NFL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 31 minutes ago, Copernicus said: I think Brownlee (eventually) replaces Lazard. I am also curious to see how Lazard responds to an awful first season with us and having Rogers back. Is Brownlee eligible for the PS again? If so then he is stashed there. In my opinion it's good to have these problems. It shows how much talent we've added under Douglas. So difficult to evaluate the offense when the Qb was the worst in the NFL. Under the new CBA everyone is eligible for the practice squad. There are a limited number of slots with no limit on years of service. Rodger Saffold was on the practice squad last year. Brownlee is an interesting one. He played a ton down the stretch and didn't really produce much. Rodgers seemed to love him. Maybe he is the kind of WR that doesn't get a ton of separation and you have to throw open. A guy like Gipson gets open and a sh*tty QB can see that and toss him the ball. Ball security might be an issue there though. The issue with Brownlee is that he hasn't provided much on specials. They already have Wilson, Williams and Lazard who provide nothing there. Corley will basically have a free pass to make the team and may play some specials. I think Charles takes the Hardee ST slot. Does that mean he doesn't count at WR? Injuries and the summer will probably make the decision for us. Guys like Yeboah and Bawden play a bunch on specials if they keep guys that don't over them it leaves less room for guys like Brownlee. The new rules may change the type of guy they want to keep for specials too. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I know it's very early on and things can change obviously, but in my opinion, Bernard-Converse has no chance of beating out Stiggers for any roster spot, unless Stiggers suffers a serious injury, of some sort. As things sit right now, I think Stiggers is a slam-dunk to make the 53 man roster. Considering the difficult & unorthodox path, that Stiggers took to get here (and the fact that he was successful in doing so) I believe he probably wants it more, than anybody he'll be competing against for a roster spot. It also appears, at least very early on, that he has the talent, ball skills & athletic ability, to match his intestinal fortitude. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I think A A Ron Rodgers might get cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said: I know it's very early on and things can change obviously, but in my opinion, Bernard-Converse has no chance of beating out Stiggers for any roster spot, unless Stiggers suffers a serious injury, of some sort. They do seem to love Stiggers, but I think Stiggers is more in the slot CB mix to take over for Carter or Echols, while JBC is probably going to play safety and compete with Davis and Oliver. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copernicus Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I LOVE Yeboah and was sooooo happy we signed him post draft. Surprised he wasn't drafted. I think our TE room is stacked with no real wiggle room. Conklin, Rucket, and Yeboah all have NFL talent (IMO). Ruckert (23) , Yeboah (25) Kuntz (25) are young and good. I think Kuntz get stashed again on the practice squad and ready incase of injury. Maybe the following season we re-evaluate Conklin's status ( he'll be 29) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 10 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: They do seem to love Stiggers, but I think Stiggers is more in the slot CB mix to take over for Carter or Echols, while JBC is probably going to play safety and compete with Davis and Oliver. Agreed sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I'd flip Yeboah and Kuntz; Yeboah was ahead of Kuntz on the depth chart last year, so unless something changes over TC that's likely the pecking order this year, especially given that they're both developmental guys the team put resources into and Yeboah is further along that path. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 There are roughly 6 spots up for grabs. Special Teams will play a big part of who the Jets keep. Here are some of the battles, I believe will be the ones to watch. If the Jets keep 9 DL: (5 edge, 4 DT) who will be the 9th player? Smart vs McGregor vs Watts vs Taylor Do the Jets keep 3 or 4 RBs: Izzy vs Davis vs Cohen TE: Yeboah vs Kuntz WR: Brownlee vs Charles vs Malik Taylor LB: Surratt vs Eguavoen vs Barnes S: JBC vs Key vs Davis CB: Stiggers vs Oliver vs Echols 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 14 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: I'd flip Yeboah and Kuntz; Yeboah was ahead of Kuntz on the depth chart last year, so unless something changes over TC that's likely the pecking order this year, especially given that they're both developmental guys the team put resources into and Yeboah is further along that path. Funny, I feel just the opposite. I agree that Yeboah was ahead of Kuntz all last year, but the fact that Yeboah is further along is actually the one thing I think gives Kuntz some advantage. Yeboah will be unrestricted this offseason. Kuntz is under team control for 3 more years. If they are even close, that gives the nod to Kuntz. That being said Kuntz has done almost nothing and Yeboah adds a decent amount on specials, so I do agree Kuntz has more to prove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 43 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: They do seem to love Stiggers, but I think Stiggers is more in the slot CB mix to take over for Carter or Echols, while JBC is probably going to play safety and compete with Davis and Oliver. Yeah? I kinda thought that Carter might get resigned and that they’d look to groom Stiggers to replace Reed on the outside. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just now, slats said: Yeah? I kinda thought that Carter might get resigned and that they’d look to groom Stiggers to replace Reed on the outside. That's totally within the realm of possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 57 minutes ago, Claymation said: LB: Surratt vs Eguavoen vs Barnes This is the one to watch IMO. Seemed like last year they were really high on Surratt and have long term plans for him. If he comes in hot they'll see if he can be a cheap replacement for Mosley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 These players are fighting for a roster spot in 2024 but pre-Douglas these guys are likely starters on the decade of dog sh*t rosters under Idzik and Mac. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 8 hours ago, The Crusher said: Outstanding job Sarge!! JN's best poster. @Sarge4Tide 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 8 hours ago, Arsis said: I think A A Ron Rodgers might get cut. More than likely he’s already circumcised 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: More than likely he’s already circumcised Pat McAfee should be able to tell us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 5 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: Pat McAfee should be able to tell us Hard to resist a man in a halter top 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 This is a great analysis, but I think in at least half of these situations, injuries and "injuries" will help decide. Players put on IR will open up spots for others, and hopefully they can be put on IR that allows them to return mid-season. Players who make it through the season will get hurt, and thus need to be replaced mid-season. Hopefully not too much of that on the OL. It would also be nice if the Jets did better with injuries this season. I think the statistics have been bad enough to attribute the injuries to strength, conditioning and training, and maybe the MetLife Turf, and not necessarily accident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 ST value and injuries will be what determines roster spots for most these guys. Yeboah I think is a lock bc of his ST value. Brownlee I think is rather un challenged for that WR6 spot. And I think we have to keep 4 LBs So Barnes has to be kept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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