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Been thinking a bit about how the Jets are going to win games next year and it looks like we're going to be a ball-control, grind it out team offensively that's going to rely upon defense and special teams to win.

That said, we know Mangini comes from the best defensive-scheming tree in the game so let's hope he improves our ability to stay in games defensively. We know we just upgraded our O-line and hopefully we'll be able to control the ball a bit more and keep the defense fresh, etc...but what I just realized is that we're going to be a fantastic special teams unit.

Graham = excellent punter

Nugent = good to very good PK (ended the year very consistent)

Miller = excellent return man; dangerous every time he touches it

Brad Smith/Cotchery = upgrade from last year in the punt return game. Can Smith be our Randell-El?

Westhoff - one of the best in the biz

We can stay in the game with defense and specials and in the NFL and close games...specials can make the difference.

Your thoughts?

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In that game, your margine of error is slim. More than anything, you have to play mistake free, turn-over free, ball.

thus, the players that were drafted: Heady, game tested, up fopr a challenge.

It is a good approach and forndation to have. The Jets still have to build on top of it

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I have been thinking about this as well. This is a good topic. One mistake the other team should not make is to have a wild boar returning kicks.

If you look at the Jets draft strategy they seemed to focus on wild boar containment. Maybe Mangini knows something we don't. But I will say this...if wild boar becomes an emerging trend, the Jets will do very well next season.

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I have been thinking about this as well. This is a good topic. One mistake the other team should not make is to have a wild boar returning kicks.

If you look at the Jets draft strategy they seemed to focus on wild boar containment. Maybe Mangini knows something we don't. But I will say this...if wild boar becomes an emerging trend, the Jets will do very well next season.

When I was growing up my dad alsways told me "Son, you have to control your pig. Don't let your pig get the best of you".

I didn't know what he meant back then, but I do now.

Thanks, Dad.

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Miller = excellent return man; dangerous every time he touches it

Also a high chance he fumbles the ball.

New regime. New year. I personally am willing to wipe the slate clean. Granted he was terrible holding on to the ball last year. But I think it was a combination of being a rookie and partly because of the learning curve associated with catching Graham's punts in practice. Eventually his confidence suffered.

He starts camp with no fumbles. That is how I look at it!

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Nugent = good to very good PK (ended the year very consistent)

Your thoughts?

Hey Panties, your joking, right?

How the hell can you say Nuggie is a "good to very good" kicker?

He was 1/64 on touchbacks with more kicks going out-of-bounds than through the end zone.

He is O-for his career on 50+ FG's.

And his only chance to win a game, his FG came up short.

He is mediocre at best and the Jets wasted a 2nd round pick on something like that.:eek:

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Hey Panties, your joking, right?

How the hell can you say Nuggie is a "good to very good" kicker?

He was 1/64 on touchbacks with more kicks going out-of-bounds than through the end zone.

He is O-for his career on 50+ FG's.

And his only chance to win a game, his FG came up short.

He is mediocre at best and the Jets wasted a 2nd round pick on something like that.:eek:

There were better players available at #118 this year than at #47 last year.

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Hey Panties, your joking, right?

How the hell can you say Nuggie is a "good to very good" kicker?

He was 1/64 on touchbacks with more kicks going out-of-bounds than through the end zone.

He is O-for his career on 50+ FG's.

And his only chance to win a game, his FG came up short.

He is mediocre at best and the Jets wasted a 2nd round pick on something like that.:eek:

do you know what a fall you are setting yourself for when kowski underachieves? thank you in advance:)

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I think nugents leg needs to get stronger for better field position after kickoffs, which hopefully will happen a lot more often this year. funny lotsa talk about st studs in recent years but not this year

You moron. Don't you know that Nugent consistently kicked kickoffs out of the endzone and hit 60 yarders with ease back in college?

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Miller = excellent return man; dangerous every time he touches it

Also a high chance he fumbles the ball.

I believe all but one of his fumbles were on Punt Returns. 2 against Jacksonville.:Cuss:

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Hey Panties, your joking, right?

How the hell can you say Nuggie is a "good to very good" kicker?

He was 1/64 on touchbacks with more kicks going out-of-bounds than through the end zone.

He is O-for his career on 50+ FG's.

And his only chance to win a game, his FG came up short.

He is mediocre at best and the Jets wasted a 2nd round pick on something like that.:eek:

He is 0-1 on 50 yarders, oh boy. What a shame. His 53 yarder barely came up short in a cold night where he admitted he misjudged the weather.

Blow me Tx.

Touchbacks do not define a kicker. If that is your logic then Mike Vanderjagt is average at best as well.

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...and would mean John Hall was a great kicker as a rookie when he set the NFL record for touchbacks. Too bad he couldn't nail chip-shots

Haha, yeah, that too.

Also, kickers are allowed to start off slow like rookies to you know. They don't need to be perfect. I don't care if you think a 1st or 2nd round kicker should be great from the start, because that's just stupid. Nugent was the best Collegiate kicker and he will turn into one of the best in the NFL. He missed his first long field goal, whooptie do. It's not like it was the AFC Championship Game. Nugent will be fine. Worry about your kicker from Memphis.

I really do hope he misses a 50+ yarder with the game on the line this season so I can get on you.

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I really do hope he misses a 50+ yarder with the game on the line this season so I can get on you.

:eek: Cover your a$$ Tx....literally. This kid has some "queer" tendencies. No pun intended of course.

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Hey Panties, your joking, right?

How the hell can you say Nuggie is a "good to very good" kicker?

He was 1/64 on touchbacks with more kicks going out-of-bounds than through the end zone.

He is O-for his career on 50+ FG's.

And his only chance to win a game, his FG came up short.

He is mediocre at best and the Jets wasted a 2nd round pick on something like that.:eek:

Bottom line: Nugent started out horribly but was money in the bank on all but very long field goals. In fact, he was downright automatic on all but 50 yarders as the season wore on. He'll be better year 2.

Also, time will tell if taking a kicker in round 2 was a waste...most games in the NFL are decided by 3 pts or less. If Nugent can continue to be consistent and get more leg strength he'll be a weapon. Combining him with Graham and a dynamic returner like Miller and you can have a formidable unit. Miller fumbled on punts, not kickoffs...and as he gains experience and patience he will too evolve into a weapon. winning field position and winning the turnover battle are huge...we have a good young core (graham notwithstanding)...

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could have traded a 6th or 7th for the atlanta kicker who went to the Giants

Yea. The ultra clutch under the pressure kicker Jay Feeley. :eek:

You people are retarded. Look at Nugents field goal % last year AS A ROOKIE it was just as good as Vinatieri. He was something like 15 of his last 16 to end the season, he's proven to already be good. And he'll be even better next year stfu tx.

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The Jets special teams are set up pretty nicely for next season.

Mike Westhoff is back.

The specialists are in place with Mike Nugent and Ben Graham.

The Jets have alot of capable returners on the roster now with Tim Dwight, Justin Miller, Jerricho Cotchery, Brad Smith and Leon Washington.

If Derrick Blaylock is on this team,. He is a valuable asset as a lead blocker on kick returns. He was big time in KC in this area leading the way for Dante Hall and we saw Blaylock's talents in this area againts Buffalo late last year.

The Jets signed a few guys who can contribute nicely on specials like a Matt Chatham. They are also expected to get back two very good special teams players in Darrell McClover and Andre Maddox.

The Jets special teams unit has alot of very nice pieces in place.

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The Jets special teams are set up pretty nicely for next season.

Mike Westhoff is back.

The specialists are in place with Mike Nugent and Ben Graham.

The Jets have alot of capable returners on the roster now with Tim Dwight, Justin Miller, Jerricho Cotchery, Brad Smith and Leon Washington.

If Derrick Blaylock is on this team,. He is a valuable asset as a lead blocker on kick returns. He was big time in KC in this area leading the way for Dante Hall and we saw Blaylock's talents in this area againts Buffalo late last year.

The Jets signed a few guys who can contribute nicely on specials like a Matt Chatham. They are also expected to get back two very good special teams players in Darrell McClover and Andre Maddox.

The Jets special teams unit has alot of very nice pieces in place.

You know, I forgot about McClover and Maddox and their abilities on the specials. Especially McClover.

To me, solid coverage starts wiyth the guys you have on the edges, running downfield. You need to force the returner inside, whre there is a crowd, and the chances of gaining any significant yardage is greatly minimized. We do have some horses who can ahndle this. So I guess coverage may improve.

I like Dwight on punt returns. Sure handed, intelligent, and solid speed. Long time since we had that combination back there.

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Look at Nugents field goal % last year AS A ROOKIE it was just as good as Vinatieri. He was something like 15 of his last 16 to end the season, he's proven to already be good.

Hey numbnuts,

AV was an UDFA and the Jets wasted a 2nd round draft pick on Nuggie.

See the friggn' difference?

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Yea, I love Tim Dwight...by being a short skinny white guy in my own right i always loved Tim Dwight and kinda admired from afar. He is going to be a big success next year not only in the punt return but also kickoff. Either him and miller or him and cotchery, I will be quite happy

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Hey numbnuts,

AV was an UDFA and the Jets wasted a 2nd round draft pick on Nuggie.

See the friggn' difference?

Nice spin dooshey.

Vinatieri is the unquestioned best kicker in the nfl (by most people) and Nugent kick every bit as good as him in his rookie season.

If Nugent becomes the next Vinatieri you will still make fun of the Jets for picking him in the 2nd rd (over which solid player btw?))

Put a sock in it patsy!

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