nj meadowlands Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Broncos get undisclosed pick from Raiders for DT Warren By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com (Archive) The Denver Broncos have traded defensive tackle Gerard Warren to the Oakland Raiders for an undisclosed draft pick. Warren, the third overall pick in the 2001 draft by Cleveland, spent the last two seasons in Denver, making 49 tackles and 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Broncos get undisclosed pick from Raiders for DT Warren By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com (Archive) The Denver Broncos have traded defensive tackle Gerard Warren to the Oakland Raiders for an undisclosed draft pick. Warren, the third overall pick in the 2001 draft by Cleveland, spent the last two seasons in Denver, making 49 tackles and 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I wonder how high of a pic. I really hope that Pouha is doing well. I haven't seen much of him... Anyone know how he has been doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Going to the Raiders late in your career is the equivilant of picking out your casket. Perhaps, but that defense could be downright nasty this year. They have a lot of talent on that side of the ball. Imagine if the offense wasn't getting the defense winded by 3-&-out'ing so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I wonder how high of a pic. I really hope that Pouha is doing well. I haven't seen much of him... Anyone know how he has been doing? He isnt the second coming of Wilfork. I didnt like how he got dragged into the EZ by AP on friday. AP is a beast, but if that play is any indication, Pouha is not the answer at NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 The Raiders defense should be the best in the leaugue, at least it might be, there Offense on the other hand..... ehh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Russell still not signed- looks like Culpepper has a good chance that he may start for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 The Raiders defense should be the best in the leaugue, at least it might be, there Offense on the other hand..... ehh..... no way that's true. Ravens, Pats, Chargers, bears, hell even the vikings might have better D's than the Raiders. Raiders D will be good, but lets not look at inflated statistics and think they are top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 no way that's true. Ravens, Pats, Chargers, bears, hell even the vikings might have better D's than the Raiders. Raiders D will be good, but lets not look at inflated statistics and think they are top notch. I wasn't looking at stats. They actually have talent on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 I wasn't looking at stats. They actually have talent on defense. Yyyyyep. Their D kept them from going 0-16 last year. They have talent, speed, and Raider like toughness. They're gonna be a really good unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 The Raider defense would do wonders here in New York. That team is an offense away from being a playoff team. Its a shame they can't even average a touchdown a game from the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 The Raiders are not that bad of a team believe or not, IF they had a TOP 10 OFFENSE, they will be a threat in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 It's really more the OL than the whole offense. Particularly if they ever get Russell signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 It's really more the OL than the whole offense. Particularly if they ever get Russell signed. The Robert Gallery pick has come back to haunt the Raiders indeed, but they also don't have much at the receiver position. Lets be fair, Randy Moss was hurt last season and Jerry Porter was benched by Art I've been living in a Shell since the early 90's. Now that Porter is back, Moss is gone and there really isn't much behind them. Doug Gabriel? Ronald Curry? Not exactly the greatest receivers. PLUS, I mean, they did have to have a back who can only handle it 15 times a game leading the way the past two seasons. Games 5-16, when Rhodes is in the lineup, they will be a much better team now that they have a complete back, a back that is better than Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instant Karma Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 If he was really all that then Denver would not have traded him to a division rival. I think he might just ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 The Robert Gallery pick has come back to haunt the Raiders indeed, but they also don't have much at the receiver position. Lets be fair, Randy Moss was hurt last season and Jerry Porter was benched by Art I've been living in a Shell since the early 90's. Now that Porter is back, Moss is gone and there really isn't much behind them. Doug Gabriel? Ronald Curry? Not exactly the greatest receivers. PLUS, I mean, they did have to have a back who can only handle it 15 times a game leading the way the past two seasons. Games 5-16, when Rhodes is in the lineup, they will be a much better team now that they have a complete back, a back that is better than Jordan. I agree they don't have any WR's that are going to make anyone forget about Marvin Harrison. Porter has talent. Curry's not bad. Nothing great, but even a great receiver needs someone to deliver the ball to him. They also drafted Zach Miller this year who should be decent at least. They just added Justin Griffith. And your favorite player, Jordan, even had an ok season behind an even worse OL than they have right now when he was healthy in '05. Rhodes is at least adequate for platooning/backup. They also have Michael Bush (next year anyway). I don't blame the whole OL on Gallery. He sucks, but it's not like he's the only sub-par player on their line. Bad coaching for the past couple of years hasn't helped any either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 The Robert Gallery pick has come back to haunt the Raiders indeed, but they also don't have much at the receiver position. Lets be fair, Randy Moss was hurt last season and Jerry Porter was benched by Art I've been living in a Shell since the early 90's. Now that Porter is back, Moss is gone and there really isn't much behind them. Doug Gabriel? Ronald Curry? Not exactly the greatest receivers. PLUS, I mean, they did have to have a back who can only handle it 15 times a game leading the way the past two seasons. Games 5-16, when Rhodes is in the lineup, they will be a much better team now that they have a complete back, a back that is better than Jordan. Rhodes got his pay day for being a below average back in the perfect system. He'll show his true colors this year. I'm not talking up LaMont, but Rhodes is not an upgrade. They'd be better served talking barry sanders out of retirment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 To Arsis, and MD, Try not to bad talk what I said before you know what the hell you are talking about. The Raiders defense is dominant, it's just that they are continuosly on the field, you can't expect a defense to allow only 10 points a game (which they should) if they are on the field every other minute. A good defense is Baltimore's or San Diego's, or Steelers, but those teams have offenses, the Raiders couldn't convert on third down, couldn't pass, nothing, so you can't expect their D to look as good as other teams, in which I have named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 The Raiders will surprise a lot of people by not finishing last in that division. It's year two of Herm...the Chiefs are primed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 To Arsis, and MD, Try not to bad talk what I said before you know what the hell you are talking about. The Raiders defense is dominant, it's just that they are continuosly on the field, you can't expect a defense to allow only 10 points a game (which they should) if they are on the field every other minute. A good defense is Baltimore's or San Diego's, or Steelers, but those teams have offenses, the Raiders couldn't convert on third down, couldn't pass, nothing, so you can't expect their D to look as good as other teams, in which I have named. then specify. Your posts are all short because once you get going you can't keep the post rational. That's cool and all, but don't act like Arsis and i don't know what we are talking about. You need to put together one solid post before you can bad talk anyone on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowJet35 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 then specify. Your posts are all short because once you get going you can't keep the post rational. That's cool and all, but don't act like Arsis and i don't know what we are talking about. You need to put together one solid post before you can bad talk anyone on this board. ouch, you ridiculed my post, that hurts. Talk about how the Raiders defense isn't good, the idea of my response is to force you to reason how in the world the Raiders defense isn't good. Way to dodge the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Draft pick is reportedly a 5th rounder if Warren makes the team. His 2007 salary, according to nflpa.org, is $595,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Draft pick is reportedly a 5th rounder if Warren makes the team. His 2007 salary, according to nflpa.org, is $595,000. damn I would have been thrilled if the JETS got him for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 damn I would have been thrilled if the JETS got him for that... Ummm.. why? Don't we have enough damn Defensive Ends? We have 3 who are solid and will definitely make the team and 3 others battling for 1 or 2 other roster slots. He's no NT and the Jets already have Robertson and Pouha there if your thinking is that they could move him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Ummm.. why? Don't we have enough damn Defensive Ends? We have 3 who are solid and will definitely make the team and 3 others battling for 1 or 2 other roster slots. He's no NT and the Jets already have Robertson and Pouha there if your thinking is that they could move him there. He is 330lbs... and a DT... Im pretty sure he would play NT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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