PeterNorth09 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Eric Gordon = Ron Artest New Knicks regime, same bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I didn't like what I saw this year from Gordon, particularly in the second half. We'll see, hopefully the Knicks did their homework on this guy. I really wanted them to take Bayless, though. IMO he would've been the best pick there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 I didn't like what I saw this year from Gordon, particularly in the second half. We'll see, hopefully the Knicks did their homework on this guy. I really wanted them to take Bayless, though. IMO he would've been the best pick there. Gordon broke his left wrist - his steadying hand - which is why his shooting percentage went down plus his coach was in a huge scandal. Gordon is going to be good in the NBA. I'm watching all these youtube highlights of Gallinari and it's all pull-up jumpers he probably wouldn't be able to get off in the nba. They keep trying to say he's 6-10 and can play PF but he's only 6-8 or 6-9 and is really a small forward. I'm so sick of this organization shooting itself in the foot year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Gordon broke his left wrist - his steadying hand - which is why his shooting percentage went down plus his coach was in a huge scandal. Gordon is going to be good in the NBA. I'm watching all these youtube highlights of Gallinari and it's all pull-up jumpers he probably wouldn't be able to get off in the nba. They keep trying to say he's 6-10 and can play PF but he's only 6-8 or 6-9 and is really a small forward. I'm so sick of this organization shooting itself in the foot year after year. At least they finally had a 1st rounder of their own... lol Say hello to the bulls future all star PG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Bulls should have taken Michael Beasley. Beasley & Hinrich > Rose Paxson is such an idiot. Now he absolutely must get rid of Kirk Hinrich and since he's drafted Rose he has no leverage at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Bulls should have taken Michael Beasley. Beasley & Hinrich > Rose Paxson is such an idiot. Now he absolutely must get rid of Kirk Hinrich and since he's drafted Rose he has no leverage at all. Hinrich is going to start until rose takes over and then will be an over qulaified backup until they can dump him. Hinrich/Rose Gordon/Hughes Deng/Nocioni Gooden/Thomas Noah/Gray Not a bad roster by any means... kills the knicks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 Hinrich is going to start until rose takes over and then will be an over qulaified backup until they can dump him. Hinrich/Rose Gordon/Hughes Deng/Nocioni Gooden/Thomas Noah/Gray Not a bad roster by any means... kills the knicks... The bulls don't have any inside scoring outside of Drew Gooden and it's not like he's Shaquille O'Neal, or Michael Beasley for that matter. Yeah, the Bulls are better than the Knicks. Ofcourse it helps that David Stern sucks the Bulls organization off any chance he gets and rigs the lottery to give you guys the #1 pick and screws the Knicks with the 6 pick where D'Antoni f_cks it all up by passing up on Bayless and Eric Gordon for some Euro-bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Gordon broke his left wrist - his steadying hand - which is why his shooting percentage went down plus his coach was in a huge scandal. Gordon is going to be good in the NBA. I'm watching all these youtube highlights of Gallinari and it's all pull-up jumpers he probably wouldn't be able to get off in the nba. They keep trying to say he's 6-10 and can play PF but he's only 6-8 or 6-9 and is really a small forward. I'm so sick of this organization shooting itself in the foot year after year. For what it's worth Pete, this weeks Sporting News had the Knicks taking Gallinari in it's mock draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 For what it's worth Pete, this weeks Sporting News had the Knicks taking Gallinari in it's mock draft. Anybody with an f'ing brain would've thought the Knicks were going to take Gallinari. I've said it ever since the lottery balls fell into place that this is exactly what they would do. D'Antonio played with and is friends with the kids father, a fellow ITALIAN, you knew, just knew, it was going to f'ing happen. F'ing Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspegs Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 The Knicks shoulda took Lopez. Who they got at center?? Curry?!?!!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMan57 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Gallinari was actually at the draft lastnight, so he is already not Frederic Weiss. Keep in mind that D'Antoni wasnt even high on Gallinari weeks ago, his scouts love him and sold him on the idea. He wasnt doing the kid's father a favor. I like Gordon too, but come to think of it where would he play with Jamal Crawford not going anywhere anytime soon? PG? Thats forcing a square peg into a round hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 The Knicks shoulda took Lopez. Who they got at center?? Curry?!?!!?!?! Lopez is a stiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Eric Gordon is fat. We have enough fat guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Lopez is a stiff. As Craig Carton put it this morning on WFAN: "The Nets now have Yi and Spicoli" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 As Craig Carton put it this morning on WFAN: "The Nets now have Yi and Spicoli" Man do I hate that show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I bet Robin ends up being better than Brook anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I bet Robin ends up being better than Brook anyways. I bet they both suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeebers Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I bet they both suck. Well, at least they're better than the other set of twins from Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Frederic Weiss? No ****ing way. I've seen this kid play. I don't know that he'll be an NBA all star, but he's no Frederic Weiss. I don't know where Weiss played, but the Italian league isn't so soft and Gallinari is not just a soft jump shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 Frederic Weiss? No ****ing way. I've seen this kid play. I don't know that he'll be an NBA all star, but he's no Frederic Weiss. I don't know where Weiss played, but the Italian league isn't so soft and Gallinari is not just a soft jump shooter. You're on crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetme23 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 You're on crack. Clearly you are. Danillo played in the second best league in the world. he went up against ex-nba players every night. He is a legitimate 6'9 without sneakers and still growing. Some people have him growing to 7'. He shoots 40% from the three point line, has amazing handle for a man of that size, and was the go-to-guy for the Italian team. Had he played in the NCAA he would have averaged 25 ppg easy. You should do some research before you comment on a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 You're on crack. You watched youtube clips, I saw the kid play in playoff games. Live. Surely you are more qualified to judge him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Clearly you are. Danillo played in the second best league in the world. he went up against ex-nba players every night. He is a legitimate 6'9 without sneakers and still growing. Some people have him growing to 7'. He shoots 40% from the three point line, has amazing handle for a man of that size, and was the go-to-guy for the Italian team. Had he played in the NCAA he would have averaged 25 ppg easy. You should do some research before you comment on a player. Wow, he played against a bunch of scrubs who couldn't hack it in the NBDL. It's easy shoot 40% from the three point line against a bunch of slow European players who don't play defense and can't fight through a screen. I don't understand the argument that he would have averaged 25 ppg in the NCAA easy when he only averaged 14 ppg in a Euro league. That's just a dumb conclusion. Maybe you're one of these guys who thinks Euro-players are so much better than American players. Yeah, guys like Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili (who isn't even European) have done great in the NBA. For every Dirk there are a ton of European players who get hyped up in every draft by people like you and up doing nothing in the NBA or just suck. Darko Milicic, Nikoloz Tzkitishvili, Pavel Podkolzin, Maciej Lampe, Milos Vujanic, Tiago Splitter, Bostjan Nachbar, Kosta Pervoic, Zarko Cabarkapa, Sergei Monia, Jiri Welsch, Raul Lopez, Fran Vasquez, Yarosalv Karolev and Andrea Bargnani all say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Wow, he played against a bunch of scrubs who couldn't hack it in the NBDL. It's easy shoot 40% from the three point line against a bunch of slow European players who don't play defense and can't fight through a screen. I don't understand the argument that he would have averaged 25 ppg in the NCAA easy when he only averaged 14 ppg in a Euro league. That's just a dumb conclusion. Maybe you're one of these guys who thinks Euro-players are so much better than American players. Yeah, guys like Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili (who isn't even European) have done great in the NBA. For every Dirk there are a ton of European players who get hyped up in every draft by people like you and up doing nothing in the NBA or just suck. Darko Milicic, Nikoloz Tzkitishvili, Pavel Podkolzin, Maciej Lampe, Milos Vujanic, Tiago Splitter, Bostjan Nachbar, Kosta Pervoic, Zarko Cabarkapa, Sergei Monia, Jiri Welsch, Raul Lopez, Fran Vasquez, Yarosalv Karolev and Andrea Bargnani all say hello. I respect your desire to bad mouth every single player that you mention, but your comments are ridiculous and in this case often completely incorrect. What I said is that he may suck, but if he does, HE WILL STILL HAVE NOTHING ELSE IN COMMON WITH FREDERIC WEISS. The Italian league is not bad and players always play there over any other league in the states because that is where the money is. There is a reason guys go there and it is $$$. These teams would probably slaughter the NBDL. He averaged 17.5 in the Italian league. The "14 points he averaged in a Euro league" was in the European championship league which IIRC is only for the very top teams in each league. By all accounts he was a top 10 pick, you admit you've NEVER seen him play, so the only explanation for your hatred is an anti-Euro bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 I respect your desire to bad mouth every single player that you mention, but your comments are ridiculous and in this case often completely incorrect. What I said is that he may suck, but if he does, HE WILL STILL HAVE NOTHING ELSE IN COMMON WITH FREDERIC WEISS. The Italian league is not bad and players always play there over any other league in the states because that is where the money is. There is a reason guys go there and it is $$$. These teams would probably slaughter the NBDL. He averaged 17.5 in the Italian league. The "14 points he averaged in a Euro league" was in the European championship league which IIRC is only for the very top teams in each league. By all accounts he was a top 10 pick, you admit you've NEVER seen him play, so the only explanation for your hatred is an anti-Euro bias. I have two words for you: Andrea Bargnani. Another Italian player, played in the same league that Gallinari played in which you're hyping up so much, Italian Lega A, and he was a higher rated prospect coming into the draft, taken #1 over Lamarcus Aldridge and now he is absolute garbage in the NBA averaging 10 pts and 3 rebs a game this past season. It's not an anti-Euro bias, just that most of these players suck. For every Dirk there's 50 or so players who end up being garbage in the NBA or just completely wash-out. And besides, Eric Gordon is going to be a much better player than Gallinari. Not even f_cking close. Go worship this guy all you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 14ppg in the Euro League = 5ppg in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Has anyone ever actually seen the guy play? Not youtube, not hearsay, not 2nd and 3rd hand. Ever watched him play a game,start to finish? I saw Joba pitch all of once before he made the Yankees,and while it made a major impression, I had no idea. Whether Gallinari is a player or a stiff, we really don't know. This is pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I have two words for you: Andrea Bargnani. Another Italian player, played in the same league that Gallinari played in which you're hyping up so much, Italian Lega A, and he was a higher rated prospect coming into the draft, taken #1 over Lamarcus Aldridge and now he is absolute garbage in the NBA averaging 10 pts and 3 rebs a game this past season. It's not an anti-Euro bias, just that most of these players suck. For every Dirk there's 50 or so players who end up being garbage in the NBA or just completely wash-out. And besides, Eric Gordon is going to be a much better player than Gallinari. Not even f_cking close. Go worship this guy all you want. You have a logic problem buddy. I never said he was a sure thing and I don't know **** about Gordon, but where have I worshiped this kid or hyped the Italian League? I just said it's way better than the NBDL and that he scored 17.5 there, not 14. I've actually seen him play and he's nothing like Weiss. He's also 19. Bargnani is what? 22? Go ahead and write them off. You say you don't have an anti-Euro bias, but did you notice that most players coming from the NCAA suck? They do. If you want to worship Eric Gordon have a ****ing blast, just try not to make **** up about what I've said. Gallinari has got a handle and passes well. He seems like he'll be able to get his shot off. His game is not like Weiss. He may be great, average or blow. Understand? Has anyone ever actually seen the guy play? Not youtube, not hearsay, not 2nd and 3rd hand. Ever watched him play a game,start to finish? I saw Joba pitch all of once before he made the Yankees,and while it made a major impression, I had no idea. Whether Gallinari is a player or a stiff, we really don't know. This is pure speculation. I've seen him play quite a few times. I don't go to all the games, but I've probably seen him play about ten or so times. Didn't really concentrate on him and I still don't know if he's going to be a great player or a stiff, but I know that his game is nothing like Weiss'. I'd be worried that he might be a little slow and may be exposed on D. He's pretty young and looks like he's growing into his frame, so the sky is the limit, but he might just be another un-athletic European tweener that never really cuts it at the next level. I don't expect him to be too great as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 You have a logic problem buddy. I never said he was a sure thing and I don't know **** about Gordon, but where have I worshiped this kid or hyped the Italian League? I just said it's way better than the NBDL and that he scored 17.5 there, not 14. I've actually seen him play and he's nothing like Weiss. He's also 19. Bargnani is what? 22? Go ahead and write them off. You say you don't have an anti-Euro bias, but did you notice that most players coming from the NCAA suck? They do. If you want to worship Eric Gordon have a ****ing blast, just try not to make **** up about what I've said. Gallinari has got a handle and passes well. He seems like he'll be able to get his shot off. His game is not like Weiss. He may be great, average or blow. Understand? I've seen him play quite a few times. I don't go to all the games, but I've probably seen him play about ten or so times. Didn't really concentrate on him and I still don't know if he's going to be a great player or a stiff, but I know that his game is nothing like Weiss'. I'd be worried that he might be a little slow and may be exposed on D. He's pretty young and looks like he's growing into his frame, so the sky is the limit, but he might just be another un-athletic European tweener that never really cuts it at the next level. I don't expect him to be too great as a rookie. Then that is informed and fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Peter North was all for putting Zach Randolph and Eddy Curry on the same court, so that should tell you about his basketball acumen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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