DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Tori Holt 1 catch 5 yards Best CB in the NFL. Any question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Revis is in top 5 Holt? Washed up. Lets see how he handles Moss Thur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan420 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 While I agree Revis is a great CB, he wasn't covering Holt the entire time. He gave up a few catches to other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 While I agree Revis is a great CB, he wasn't covering Holt the entire time. He gave up a few catches to other guys. i think it was 2 other completions. ALL CBs give up completions. When the defense does not have to help you and all you ever give up are a couple of short completions, game after game, you are a candidate for the best in the business. You guys have this imaginary concept of a shutdown CB as someone who NEVER gives up a catch. That is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 While I agree Revis is a great CB, he wasn't covering Holt the entire time. He gave up a few catches to other guys. So he gave up a few catches...what's your point? Sounds to me like the Rams had a difficult time finding the endzone or did I miss something?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 i think it was 2 other completions. ALL CBs give up completions. When the defense does not have to help you and all you ever give up are a couple of short completions, game after game, you are a candidate for the best in the business. You guys have this imaginary concept of a shutdown CB as someone who NEVER gives up a catch. That is ridiculous. Agreed, also its one of the hardest position to play on the field. Revis is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Your stupid, your an idiot, and you should be banned for life if you think Revis is not a Top 5 CB. His stats don't show it but ask the WR's he sticks on how good he is. I look at Revis more than anyone and I think he is our best defender besides Jenkins. Revis only got beat once in 9 games and that was against the Chargers when Chambers beat him for a Touchdown. Revis is an elite player in this league for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Nnamdi Asoumagha is by far the best CB in the league. Was on Steve Smith 1 on 1 all game, 1 catch 9 yards and an INT. He's been thrown at now 10 times I think on the season. THROWN AT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 i think it was 2 other completions. ALL CBs give up completions. When the defense does not have to help you and all you ever give up are a couple of short completions, game after game, you are a candidate for the best in the business. You guys have this imaginary concept of a shutdown CB as someone who NEVER gives up a catch. That is ridiculous. I sometimes wonder if other teams sites have these negative minded people who ALWAYS have to come up with a negative slant. They must. I can't see JET NATION having a monopoly on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 So he gave up a few catches...what's your point? Sounds to me like the Rams had a difficult time finding the endzone or did I miss something?! Don't ya just love it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Nnamdi Asoumagha is by far the best CB in the league. Was on Steve Smith 1 on 1 all game, 1 catch 9 yards and an INT. He's been thrown at now 10 times I think on the season. THROWN AT!! Wow. If that is true, I stand corrected. Revis is the second best CB in the NFL. I wish they could keep official stats on this kind of stuff. That is how you judge a CB. Not just interceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Wow. If that is true, I stand corrected. Revis is the second best CB in the NFL. I wish they could keep official stats on this kind of stuff. That is how you judge a CB. Not just interceptions. Exactly right. How the heck can you get ANY picks if they don't actually throw your way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 If Irish Jet is correct then that explains how good of a CB this guy really is. I said Revis is a Top 5 and I stay on my ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 If Irish Jet is correct then that explains how good of a CB this guy really is. I said Revis is a Top 5 and I stay on my ground. I already moved Revis to #2, but I will not go any lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Tori Holt 1 catch 5 yards Best CB in the NFL. Any question? hey DM I was telling my son yesterday before the game how Revis truly IS a great player-he has won two games for us this year alone...players like him come along once a decade-if you're lucky...we haven't had a guy like him since John Abraham's rookie season before he got hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 hey DM I was telling my son yesterday before the game how Revis truly IS a great player-he has won two games for us this year alone...players like him come along once a decade-if you're lucky...we haven't had a guy like him since John Abraham's rookie season before he got hurt I miss John Abraham, I don't care what anyone says. He's playing like the best DL right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 I miss John Abraham, I don't care what anyone says. He's playing like the best DL right now. The conventional thinking is that he is not a 3-4 DE. But with Jenkins next to him and Pace and Harris behind him, he might have been a terror. Oh well, I am very happy to have Mangold for the next decade or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The conventional thinking is that he is not a 3-4 DE. But with Jenkins next to him and Pace and Harris behind him, he might have been a terror. Oh well, I am very happy to have Mangold for the next decade or so. how tough is Nick Mangold? That dude, every time he gets hurt and we all go "Uh Oh" he shakes it off is back in there the next series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The conventional thinking is that he is not a 3-4 DE. But with Jenkins next to him and Pace and Harris behind him, he might have been a terror. Oh well, I am very happy to have Mangold for the next decade or so. Not as a 3-4DE..he'd have to convert to 3-4OLB. Abe would be much too light to play 3-4DE and besides, he's a pass rusher not a block occupier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 how tough is Nick Mangold? That dude, every time he gets hurt and we all go "Uh Oh" he shakes it off is back in there the next series Yeah, he has done a few times. He is just as tough as his sister looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 how tough is Nick Mangold? That dude, every time he gets hurt and we all go "Uh Oh" he shakes it off is back in there the next series lol. I really wonder what it looks like when Jenkins and Mangold faceoff in practice against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 lol. I really wonder what it looks like when Jenkins and Mangold faceoff in practice against each other. It gets both of them much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 hey DM I was telling my son yesterday before the game how Revis truly IS a great player-he has won two games for us this year alone...players like him come along once a decade-if you're lucky...we haven't had a guy like him since John Abraham's rookie season before he got hurt My company has an office in Pittsburgh and a lot of those people told me how great he was at Pitt when the Jets drafted him. Then I read scouting reports that predicted he would be good, but not great. I guess the scouts were wrong and the people that saw him every week were right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 i think it was 2 other completions. ALL CBs give up completions. When the defense does not have to help you and all you ever give up are a couple of short completions, game after game, you are a candidate for the best in the business. You guys have this imaginary concept of a shutdown CB as someone who NEVER gives up a catch. That is ridiculous. ^^^^^Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yeah, he has done a few times. He is just as tough as his sister looks. :rim:that one got you nommed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The conventional thinking is that he is not a 3-4 DE. But with Jenkins next to him and Pace and Harris behind him, he might have been a terror. Oh well, I am very happy to have Mangold for the next decade or so. Perhaps so. As far as passrush goes. But he would get bulled over in the running game constantly, completely neutralizing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Wow. If that is true, I stand corrected. Revis is the second best CB in the NFL. I wish they could keep official stats on this kind of stuff. That is how you judge a CB. Not just interceptions. Yup, Warren Sapp who played with him is convinced he's the G.O.A.T. Said he's better than Deion Sanders and that it aint close. He'll NEVER get the recognition he deserves though, simply because teams don't throw his way enough for him to put up unreal #'s and of course because he plays for the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I already moved Revis to #2, but I will not go any lower. BTW I agree that Revis is entering that elite company probably, it's also hard to believe it's only his second season. He'll only get better with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yup, Warren Sapp who played with him is convinced he's the G.O.A.T. Said he's better than Deion Sanders and that it aint close. He'll NEVER get the recognition he deserves though, simply because teams don't throw his way enough for him to put up unreal #'s and of course because he plays for the Raiders. Reminds me of Jimmy Johnson with the 49ers in the sixties and seventies. He was so good, people just completely avoided his side of the field. He made Pro Bowls and stuff, but it took him too long to finally make the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Al Harris is without question the best cornerback in the NFL right now. Charles Woodson is giving up 4.37 Y/A on a sub-37% catch rate, has five picks, and has scored two more touchdowns (2) than he's allowed (0), and opposing quarterbacks are still throwing at him more than twice as often as they throw at Harris. Don't have chart numbers for the Minnesota game yet, but prior to that Harris had given up just 7 catches for 68 yards on the year. Compare to 5/42 for Nnamdi playing across from a black hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Al Harris is without question the best cornerback in the NFL right now. Charles Woodson is giving up 4.37 Y/A on a sub-37% catch rate, has five picks, and has scored two more touchdowns (2) than he's allowed (0), and opposing quarterbacks are still throwing at him more than twice as often as they throw at Harris. Don't have chart numbers for the Minnesota game yet, but prior to that Harris had given up just 7 catches for 68 yards on the year. Compare to 5/42 for Nnamdi playing across from a black hole. Is this info in the premiere DB? Also, does it take in account him missing half the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Also, does it take in account him missing half the season? Rate stats, genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 Al Harris is without question the best cornerback in the NFL right now. Charles Woodson is giving up 4.37 Y/A on a sub-37% catch rate, has five picks, and has scored two more touchdowns (2) than he's allowed (0), and opposing quarterbacks are still throwing at him more than twice as often as they throw at Harris. Don't have chart numbers for the Minnesota game yet, but prior to that Harris had given up just 7 catches for 68 yards on the year. Compare to 5/42 for Nnamdi playing across from a black hole. The discussion was about who is the best CB in the NFL now. Not who is having the best year. Harris is very good, but I've seen him have more than a few bad days in prior years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The discussion was about who is the best CB in the NFL now. Not who is having the best year. Harris is very good, but I've seen him have more than a few bad days in prior years. don't ya hate a smartypants DM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 don't ya hate a smartypants DM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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