Matt39 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 He didnt reitre one batter. Fat boy better start getting in shape and put down the bottle. We need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 The good part is, by not retiring a batter, his inning pitched limit this year was not affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 How is JJ Putz doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisaynon Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 yes because he's going to give a **** about spring training games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Have you ever followed baseball before? Spring training is not a very adequate assessment of either pitchers or batters. Pitchers just work on control and only a few selection of pitches. Batters just work on timing. Pitchers generally take longer than batters to get ready, hence why pitchers report earlier in spring training. But maybe we should trade him, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 The good part is, by not retiring a batter, his inning pitched limit this year was not affected. Now, see? Dierk can be funny. Not very often, but it happens. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 Have you ever followed baseball before? Spring training is not a very adequate assessment of either pitchers or batters. Pitchers just work on control and only a few selection of pitches. Batters just work on timing. Pitchers generally take longer than batters to get ready, hence why pitchers report earlier in spring training. But maybe we should trade him, right? I do see reasons to be concerned. Just from stories that I've heard of him boozing on the UES and obviously his arrest in Nebraska- Joba is a big time drinker/partyer. Add in the fact he's fat- I think there's reason to be concerned. A 23 year old power pitcher to be drinking heavily and be 30 pounds overweight is a cause for concern. If he was 2 inches shorter he'd already be Bartolo Colon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I do see reasons to be concerned. Just from stories that I've heard of him boozing on the UES and obviously his arrest in Nebraska- Joba is a big time drinker/partyer. Add in the fact he's fat- I think there's reason to be concerned. A 23 year old power pitcher to be drinking heavily and be 30 pounds overweight is a cause for concern. If he was 2 inches shorter he'd already be Bartolo Colon. Or David Wells. Depends how you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I do see reasons to be concerned. Just from stories that I've heard of him boozing on the UES and obviously his arrest in Nebraska- Joba is a big time drinker/partyer. Add in the fact he's fat- I think there's reason to be concerned. A 23 year old power pitcher to be drinking heavily and be 30 pounds overweight is a cause for concern. If he was 2 inches shorter he'd already be Bartolo Colon. Holy ****. He's the reincarnation of Boomer Wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 I wanna party with Joba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 Or David Wells. Depends how you look at it. Its easier to be a fat pitcher when you're throwing junk. Joba's a power pitcher. Dude needs to get in shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Its easier to be a fat pitcher when you're throwing junk. Joba's a power pitcher. Dude needs to get in shape. Maybe CC can introduce Joba to his personal trainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 6, 2009 Author Share Posted March 6, 2009 Maybe CC can introduce Joba to his personal trainer. So youre not concerned that Joba is fat and obviously out of shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Maybe CC can introduce Joba to his personal trainer. Who, Ronald McDonald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Monzino Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 March 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 He led all AL rookie pitchers with an ERA of 2.61 in 2008. Spring training is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 In other news, Aaron Heilman went 3 innings, 1 hit, with 2 walks and 3 k's.... as a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 So youre not concerned that Joba is fat and obviously out of shape? I'm a Mets fan and don't have him on any of my fantasy teams. No worries here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 The good part is, by not retiring a batter, his inning pitched limit this year was not affected. That is actually very funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 He didnt reitre one batter. Fat boy better start getting in shape and put down the bottle. We need him. Control issues have been alarming for Joba but I never put any stock in early spring outings. As long as he is healthy, he looked too good as a SP and 8th inning guy for me to be concerned. I have a friend who like Jorge, says Joba will never be a top SP......I disagree. Phil Huges looked extremely sharp for two innings the other day b4 surrendering a couple of runs in the 3rd inning. I was working/watching so only caught one hook in the 2nd inning which was knee buckling and set-up by locating the fastball perfectly prior to it. While I pay little importance to early spring SP results, I would like to see Phil get past those 3-6 innings unscathed as that appeared to be a issue last season pre injury. Prediction: He somehow ends up in rotation by June 1 and never looks back. I would have handed him the 5th spot and said goodbye to Andy though I understand the Yankees logic. . Now on the Mets front, same goes for John Maine.....control issues again. The difference here is Maine needs to stop publically whining about his mechanics and go work on them. Taje a page from Joba and simply say I felt good out there. The Mets 5th starter audition has been a mess except for a little ray of from Livan while Petey was clocked at 91mph and is whispered to be given closer consideration for the Cards if they choise to sign him.......no way his body handles the stress of getting up every night or every other night to pitch based on recent history. I also do not blame the Mets for moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Control issues have been alarming for Joba but I never put any stock in early spring outings. As long as he is healthy, he looked too good as a SP and 8th inning guy for me to be concerned. I have a friend who like Jorge, says Joba will never be a top SP......I disagree. Phil Huges looked extremely sharp for two innings the other day b4 surrendering a couple of runs in the 3rd inning. I was working/watching so only caught one hook in the 2nd inning which was knee buckling and set-up by locating the fastball perfectly prior to it. While I pay little importance to early spring SP results, I would like to see Phil get past those 3-6 innings unscathed as that appeared to be a issue last season pre injury. Prediction: He somehow ends up in rotation by June 1 and never looks back. I would have handed him the 5th spot and said goodbye to Andy though I understand the Yankees logic. . Now on the Mets front, same goes for John Maine.....control issues again. The difference here is Maine needs to stop publically whining about his mechanics and go work on them. Taje a page from Joba and simply say I felt good out there. The Mets 5th starter audition has been a mess except for a little ray of from Livan while Petey was clocked at 91mph and is whispered to be given closer consideration for the Cards if they choise to sign him.......no way his body handles the stress of getting up every night or every other night to pitch based on recent history. I also do not blame the Mets for moving on. Are you saying Jorge Posada said Joba will never be a top SP? Not that it really matters what Posada thinks, but that's simply not what he said. What he actually said was he should be a reliever, because he thinks he's going to get hurt in the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Are you saying Jorge Posada said Joba will never be a top SP? Not that it really matters what Posada thinks, but that's simply not what he said. What he actually said was he should be a reliever, because he thinks he's going to get hurt in the rotation. ie....he would never be able to be a top SP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanDoug Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I got this feeling that the U.S. is gonna shell Canada today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 ie....he would never be able to be a top SP. No, you're putting words in his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 No, you're putting words in his mouth. "Leave him in the bullpen," Posada replied flatly, before being asked to expand on his answer. "If you start him and he pitches 200 innings, he won't be able to (last). "You're going to lose him. He's going to get hurt ... I don't see him as a starter. I'd leave him in the bullpen." I assume if one does not see him as a SP, that would include a "Top Starter" Let it go it's not that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I wanted Joba in the pen. I know Bruney and these other guys have potential. But the 7th inning is important as well. Joba in the 8th, Mo in the 9th is proven. Long term Joba should be a starter. No doubt about it, you put him where he will pitch the most amount of innings. I just want them to do the whole win a World Series thing again. And I am willing to derail his career for a year to get that done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I wanted Joba in the pen. I know Bruney and these other guys have potential. But the 7th inning is important as well. Joba in the 8th, Mo in the 9th is proven. Long term Joba should be a starter. No doubt about it, you put him where he will pitch the most amount of innings. I just want them to do the whole win a World Series thing again. And I am willing to derail his career for a year to get that done. Enough is enough, we have messed with him too much already. Going from starting, to relieving, to starting, to relieving is probably why he got injured last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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