Bleedin Green Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 +1 Over 7 hours passed between your initial vote and the time he said he was going to sleep and he said nothing. Bleedin what makes you think that may change and how much time are you willing to give him? I suppose there isn't much he'd say or do that changes my minds as its nothing that he's done which has me hesitant to begin with. Its just that if anything I've learned that fast moving bandwagons are almost a sure sign that the player in question is not mafia. That is unless, of course, the bandwagon is actually being pushed by other mafia members against a fellow teammate. Under normal circumstances he'd be my likely choice for vote, but the way this played out just has me very wary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Few Things: 1) We're still waiting on SMC to clarify his "role" statement. Since it's been pointed out, he hasn't addressed it. I highly doubt it was an accident. What that means about his alignment I don't quite know. I'm willing to switch my vote if he doesn't at least try to clarify what that meant. I mean, if he's telling the truth about having a role, doesn't that make him a NK target? I just don't understand him saying something like that with no pressure on him to do so. 2) We're also waiting on IJ to post tomorrow and state his case. I found his aggression on JMJ to be uncharacteristic of his past play because from past games I've seen him be more cautious and not really willing to commit unless he has to do so or feels confident enough in his instincts. Not that JMJ didn't have his share of suspicious behavior, but IJ's reactions under pressure came off to me as odd and unlike the type of defense he's put up in the past. Maybe it's my style of play but I can't stand waiting for people. You give mafia more time to plant seeds of doubt and cause uncertainty. You give them time that IF you got one, time to figure out a plan B to clear their scum buddies name and move onto a next target. You're giving them the best weapon they have, time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Wait... I'm a non-voter? Go and look at the vote count again. My vote's on IJ already... good try though. Sorry Vic, I didn;t check this kinda hear it and went with it. So you think Irish is scum, or you just ready to get to night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I suppose there isn't much he'd say or do that changes my minds as its nothing that he's done which has me hesitant to begin with. Its just that if anything I've learned that fast moving bandwagons are almost a sure sign that the player in question is not mafia. That is unless, of course, the bandwagon is actually being pushed by other mafia members against a fellow teammate. Under normal circumstances he'd be my likely choice for vote, but the way this played out just has me very wary. If you think it's fast, then we need to figure out how quickly everyone voted. It's a simple solution, this day 1 has been epically long. And to your point even if IJ is killed we will benefit by studying who voted for him. That much is clear, the fact that you're willing to continue to allow time makes me curious. You more then anyone knows it gives scum more time to lay traps for the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Bleedin's the only non voter at this point. Wow you haven't voted yet Bleedin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Few Things: 1) We're still waiting on SMC to clarify his "role" statement. Since it's been pointed out, he hasn't addressed it. I highly doubt it was an accident. What that means about his alignment I don't quite know. I'm willing to switch my vote if he doesn't at least try to clarify what that meant. I mean, if he's telling the truth about having a role, doesn't that make him a NK target? I just don't understand him saying something like that with no pressure on him to do so. 2) We're also waiting on IJ to post tomorrow and state his case. I found his aggression on JMJ to be uncharacteristic of his past play because from past games I've seen him be more cautious and not really willing to commit unless he has to do so or feels confident enough in his instincts. Not that JMJ didn't have his share of suspicious behavior, but IJ's reactions under pressure came off to me as odd and unlike the type of defense he's put up in the past. "Role" vs. "Roll" What does it matter? No one would believe either reason, so it's best to just let it go and move on. If I'm a NK target, so be it. We're all NK targets. Besides, if I'm killed at night then you'd definately have your suspects in the morning. This is all about the family and whacking rats. Lets look at the rats. I agree with EY in the notion that why should we give Irish another 10 hours to talk if he's said nothing in 7. Heck, he didn't want to give JMJ 5 minutes to explain but he wants 17 hours to do it? If Irish is scum, I have a good idea who else is. But we have to see CTM's reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Sorry Vic, I didn;t check this kinda hear it and went with it. So you think Irish is scum, or you just ready to get to night? It's all good my intimidating friend. Honestly I think he's scum. I think that his scum buddies want to buy him time. And I think he has been pro-town twice and got a little to aggressive being scum. If I am wrong... like I said to BG I think we can study how quickly he was voted for, who piled on when? What was their activity like post-vote? These things can clue us in on Mafia piling on to lock up that lynch on an innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 "Role" vs. "Roll" What does it matter? No one would believe either reason, so it's best to just let it go and move on. Your not even talking to me and some how I feel owned. That's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 It's all good my intimidating friend. Honestly I think he's scum. I think that his scum buddies want to buy him time. And I think he has been pro-town twice and got a little to aggressive being scum. If I am wrong... like I said to BG I think we can study how quickly he was voted for, who piled on when? What was their activity like post-vote? These things can clue us in on Mafia piling on to lock up that lynch on an innocent. What you think of SMC. He scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Wow you haven't voted yet Bleedin? Not exactly, I was initially the first vote on JT but recently unvoted. I'm strongly considering a vote on IJ, but feel like the turn of events has me less convinced of his guilt. Although as has been since pointed out, the likelihood of hitting mafia on day one is remote and at this point we're trying to gather information. The more I think about it, I'm just deciding whether or not there's a point in waiting further or to just drop the hammer on IJ myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm strongly considering a vote on IJ, No you're not. This is just showmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 No you're not. This is just showmanship. What the hell is that supposed to mean? Or is this just an attempt to push me into casting the vote already? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyPaige Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 No you're not. This is just showmanship. You think hes scum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 What the hell is that supposed to mean? Or is this just an attempt to push me into casting the vote already? Just curious. You know what it means. And off the board, we'll have a great laugh about it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 What you think of SMC. He scares me. Crusher, vote for Irish and if he turns up rat (scum) then the family (townies) will win. I'm pretty confident in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You think hes scum? I think there shouldn't be any doubt that I'm willing to call scum scum without mincing words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You think hes scum? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I think there shouldn't be any doubt that I'm willing to call scum scum without mincing words. Your really riding that He Man machismo thing tonight. I starting to feel safe around you. Almost princess like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyPaige Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Who? Bleedin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 What you think of SMC. He scares me. I think he's still suspicious, he's jumped from wagon to wagon... yet been public about it. The role thing might be something to throw the scent off of him. I'm curious to see what is going to happen once a lynch does happen. I know EY is gonna be thrown to the front, but I got SMC still not far removed from that 2/3 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Bleedin' I'm trying to have an open mind. It's not easy but I was rude earlier and Im trying to real it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Ah **** it, while I hate the idea of getting rushed into things (and lets be honest, some of you are doing a fair bit of nudging right now ), I don't have the patience for this crap. Besides, the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of waiting another 12 f'n hours. This is pretty much an inevitability anyway, as someone is bound to drop the hammer sooner or later out of impatience if nothing else. Oh well, lets hope this works out. IJ is acting like scum and one very valid point brought up by Vic, is either way we've been given some ammo to work with on this guy. Here goes nothing: Vote: Irish Jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyPaige Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm trying to have an open mind. It's not easy but I was rude earlier and Im trying to real it in. You confuse me big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I think there shouldn't be any doubt that I'm willing to call scum scum without mincing words. I don't like the fact he's trying to buy time for IJ. He's said his piece, we've hashed this out QUITE a bit. We shouldn't need more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You confuse me big guy. He confused/scared the living hell out of me last game. I actually think I finally get him now though. Other than his hurtful comments towards me, I'm cool with Crusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Ah **** it, while I hate the idea of getting rushed into things (and lets be honest, some of you are doing a fair bit of nudging right now ), I don't have the patience for this crap. Besides, the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of waiting another 12 f'n hours. This is pretty much an inevitability anyway, as someone is bound to drop the hammer sooner or later out of impatience if nothing else. Oh well, lets hope this works out. IJ is acting like scum and one very valid point brought up by Vic, is either way we've been given some ammo to work with on this guy. Here goes nothing: Vote: Irish Jet Excellent. Guys can we get someone to go back and pull up the voting pattern that occurred on IJ with an idea on times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Ah **** it, while I hate the idea of getting rushed into things (and lets be honest, some of you are doing a fair bit of nudging right now ), I don't have the patience for this crap. Besides, the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of waiting another 12 f'n hours. This is pretty much an inevitability anyway, as someone is bound to drop the hammer sooner or later out of impatience if nothing else. Oh well, lets hope this works out. IJ is acting like scum and one very valid point brought up by Vic, is either way we've been given some ammo to work with on this guy. Here goes nothing: Vote: Irish Jet sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Ah **** it, while I hate the idea of getting rushed into things (and lets be honest, some of you are doing a fair bit of nudging right now ), I don't have the patience for this crap. Besides, the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of waiting another 12 f'n hours. This is pretty much an inevitability anyway, as someone is bound to drop the hammer sooner or later out of impatience if nothing else. Oh well, lets hope this works out. IJ is acting like scum and one very valid point brought up by Vic, is either way we've been given some ammo to work with on this guy. Here goes nothing: Vote: Irish Jet The moment of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I don't like the fact he's trying to buy time for IJ. He's said his piece, we've hashed this out QUITE a bit. We shouldn't need more time. Lucky for you I'm not a particularly patient person and thus I've come to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyPaige Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Ah **** it, while I hate the idea of getting rushed into things (and lets be honest, some of you are doing a fair bit of nudging right now ), I don't have the patience for this crap. Besides, the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of waiting another 12 f'n hours. This is pretty much an inevitability anyway, as someone is bound to drop the hammer sooner or later out of impatience if nothing else. Oh well, lets hope this works out. IJ is acting like scum and one very valid point brought up by Vic, is either way we've been given some ammo to work with on this guy. Here goes nothing: Vote: Irish Jet Well thats that. Now its the waiting game. I hope we got this right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Well thats that. Now its the waiting game. I hope we got this right. CTM is definitely going to make me wait till the AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyPaige Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 CTM is definitely going to make me wait till the AM. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 CTM is definitely going to make me wait till the AM. Booo. Which means I won't be on till like 10 a.m your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 CTM is definitely going to make me wait till the AM. I sure as hell hope not. If so, combine that with him being a twice-traitorous mafia partner and I might really start to not like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Final Vote Count JMJ (1) Irish Jets Things (1) Sharrow, SMC (3) Dan X, Doggin94it, Shutout, Crusher WoodyPaige (1) JT Sharrow (1) Norway Irish Jet (10) EY, Woody, SMC, Vic, JVOR, Slats, JMJ, AVM, JIF, Bleedin' With 18 alive, it takes 10 to whack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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