gg Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 to all those people who felt i was pejorative in this particular thread, this is my official heartfelt apology, it was not my intent. I do believe that most people who know me would realize this, but there are a lot of people who dont know me and might have taken it as a knock. Here is my mea culpa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Kerry King (Although something tells me greengal might disagree. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Kerry King (Although something tells me greengal might disagree. ) WHO??? WHO??? what are you, an idiot??? shiit! come back to me when you have some taste, you lousy snot-nose kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 WHO??? WHO??? what are you, an idiot??? shiit! come back to me when you have some taste, you lousy snot-nose kid! we need neg rep!!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Mike Ness Joe Strummer David Bowie David Byrne Bob Marley Elvis Costello Stevie Wonder Neil Diamond Bradley Nowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman_67 Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 As far as songwriters are concerned, I think Malcom and Angus Young are also very talented. Especially the latest album, Black Ice they did alot of stuff with simple riffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I'm trying to think of people who, if you play any instruments or sing, you think: I cannot even comprehend this person's genius. Even if it's a type of music that isn't your taste. Tupac the musical genius, lol. Check this girl out. Blind, 5 years old, never had a piano lesson & then sat down & started playing one day at age 3. nSOaLH8vxYw Un-freaking-real. Wow. That is unbelievable. She's already something special but once she gets the feel down for improv/writing she's going to be famous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 to all those people who felt i was pejorative in this particular thread, this is my official heartfelt apology, it was not my intent. I do believe that most people who know me would realize this, but there are a lot of people who dont know me and might have taken it as a knock. Here is my mea culpa. to BG and GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I was talking about this the other day. I think it is partially because we are such a "want to be good now" or "have it right now" society. Look at guitar hero... I don't know that people want to put in the time that the musicians of old put in. Ls Dylan would know better than me but I think the Beatles played at a strip club for 8 hours a day, six days a week for a year or two before they really became the Beatles. THAT is a time commitment and to me, that is really what it takes to be great. Enough of these button pushing rappers. My artist that is a genius? Elliott Smith, John Lennon, Bob Marley I don't think anyone should have to go through what guys like Hendrix and the Beatles had to go through. It forced a lot of them to take uppers and downers and that just led to their destruction. I don't know what it's like to be in a touring band today, I'll let you know in a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I don't think anyone should have to go through what guys like Hendrix and the Beatles had to go through. It forced a lot of them to take uppers and downers and that just led to their destruction. I don't know what it's like to be in a touring band today, I'll let you know in a few years honestly...was it worth it to them? I think they'd do it again if they had a chance at it. They may have done a few things differently but do you think Morrison or Hendrix would have given it up if they got a second chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 there are a lot of people mentioning any good/great musician who was either in a band situation or even just the singer or guitarist IN a band. The trouble I see with some of these assessments is that the term Singer/Songwriter is a genre. Jim Croce, Paul Simon, Joni Mitchell, Harry Chapin, James Taylor, Bruce Springsteen. Neil Young, Neil Diamond, Jackson Browne-THESE are singer/songwriters of that genre. To list Garcia and Hunter or Robert Plante or Aretha and Otis misses the point IMO I didn't even think about that but looking back on it I've mentioned Syd Barrett, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Peter Green and Hendrix. Hendrix and Green might be a stretch but have both released stuff under their name, solo. So I'm counting them as songwriters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 honestly...was it worth it to them? I think they'd do it again if they had a chance at it. They may have done a few things differently but do you think Morrison or Hendrix would have given it up if they got a second chance? True but I think they could have done things differently. Not so much the Beatles but Hendrix. The way his American tours were set up were completely dumb. He'd be in NJ one day and maybe Chicago the next, then back to NY. On top of that, the only hours they could get for studio time were late night/early morning like the 3am-4 am time period cause they were the cheapest. Jimi was taking pills to wake him up and then pills to go to sleep and then acid and whatever else. The bands might suck more today but they have it way better. Now I see your point, they suck because it's too easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I think I wrote better songs when I was using acid. My list has all the usual suspects on it: Lennon, Hendrix, Dylan, etc. Sting, Elvis Costello (saw them on the same bill last year at the beach - awsome!), David Byrne, Bowie... Did Kurt Cobain get a mention yet? That man was a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I think I wrote better songs when I was using acid. My list has all the usual suspects on it: Lennon, Hendrix, Dylan, etc. Sting, Elvis Costello (saw them on the same bill last year at the beach - awsome!), David Byrne, Bowie... Did Kurt Cobain get a mention yet? That man was a genius. You'll get crucified here for that but i would agree 100%. and LS...i didn't know that about Hendrix, it's amazing what the guys in suit and ties will do to people in an effort of making a buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I think I wrote better songs when I was using acid. My list has all the usual suspects on it: Lennon, Hendrix, Dylan, etc. Sting, Elvis Costello (saw them on the same bill last year at the beach - awsome!), David Byrne, Bowie... Did Kurt Cobain get a mention yet? That man was a genius. Glad to see someone else mention Byrne! He is one of the greatest of all time IMO. The Talking Heads are one of my all time favorites, and he has some really good solo stuff as well. Stop Making Sense is the coolest live concert ever recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Alice in Chains > Soundgarden and Pearl Jam > Nirvana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Alice in Chains > Soundgarden and Pearl Jam > Nirvana No. I like them, but no. I might've given you Stone Temple Pilots, though. You know who else I'd list? Frank Black. There's a reason The Pixies are on every artist's influence list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Alice in Chains > Soundgarden and Pearl Jam > Nirvana pearl jam? come on now war...you're better than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 No. I like them, but no. I might've given you Stone Temple Pilots, though. You know who else I'd list? Frank Black. There's a reason The Pixies are on every artist's influence list. Core and Purple were great albums, but I'm not a big fan of their later stuff. It's all opinion though. The one problem I have with Alice in Chains is the drug-ridden vocals of their later stuff. Still decent, though. Nirvana sounded best on their unplugged album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 No. I like them, but no. I might've given you Stone Temple Pilots, though. You know who else I'd list? Frank Black. There's a reason The Pixies are on every artist's influence list. The pixies and velvet underground tend to get forgotten in such discussions. Kim deal is ****ing amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 No. I like them, but no. I might've given you Stone Temple Pilots, though. You know who else I'd list? Frank Black. There's a reason The Pixies are on every artist's influence list. Nice. How the **** did I not have him on my list. Pixies are one of my top 10 favorite bands. Slats you are gaining points my man. I wasnt sure about you for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Ian MacKaye absolutely is a genius IMO. Some might not be into the sound, I love it, but he deserves that title even if dont like his sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanDoug Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 A couple more that I'd call fringe musical geniuses, whatever that means.... Kate Bush Donald Fagan -sorry Dickie John McLaughlin Andy Partridge Felix Pappalardi Todd Rundgren Jean Luc-Ponty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 to all those people who felt i was pejorative in this particular thread, this is my official heartfelt apology, it was not my intent. I do believe that most people who know me would realize this, but there are a lot of people who dont know me and might have taken it as a knock. Here is my mea culpa. What the f**k is wrong with you, gg. Did you hear a word I said, you dunce. I can't even do the goof justice since I'm laughing too hard. Seriously, you didn't need to remove your post, but I appreciate the effort and sentiment. I just disagreed with it's tone, which I am sure you did not mean to be demeaning. I probably read it the wrong way. Don't worry, I'll still let you have your way with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Division Marduk Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Kerry King (Although something tells me greengal might disagree. ) I'd disagree too. Hanneman was much better. And considering the substandard Sheepknot influenced piss he's come out with over the past few years. Who I think's the best? Peavey Wagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I'd disagree too. Hanneman was much better. And considering the substandard Sheepknot influenced piss he's come out with over the past few years. Who I think's the best? Peavey Wagner. I honestly didn't know who wrote Slayer's songs so I figured I'd throw up their most recognizable guy. You're definitely right, though, now that I know Hanneman wrote Raining Blood, War Ensemble, Seasons in the Abyss, Angel of Death, and South of Heaven. King doesn't write much according to Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 David Cassidy Bobby Sherman Millie Vanillie Barb Cowsill Did i miss any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Sam Beam of Iron & Wine. Simply brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alk Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Did Kurt Cobain get a mention yet? That man was a genius. YES!! I'm glad I didn't have to be the first one to make mention. Actually, I was scanning this thread for this guys name and surprisingly never found it. Tom Petty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 You'll get crucified here for that but i would agree 100%. and LS...i didn't know that about Hendrix, it's amazing what the guys in suit and ties will do to people in an effort of making a buck. That's why Zeppelin got a jet! Then you can do that kind of travelling, kinda. Bonham was **** scared of flying though haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slats Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 A couple more that I'd call fringe musical geniuses, whatever that means.... Kate Bush Donald Fagan -sorry Dickie John McLaughlin Andy Partridge Felix Pappalardi Todd Rundgren Jean Luc-Ponty I'm an XTC fan, too. They got Todd to produce what I think is their best album: Skylarking (minus Dear God, which tends to grate on me). Andy and Todd couldn't stand each other by the time the record was done, though. Shame. I'd've loved to hear what else they could've put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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