Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Unvote AVM I'm satisfied with what he's offered for now. Vote Klecko To answer AVM, his first mafia game was the one i modded. I find his behavior significantly different from that one (though it is early), which is a good enough reason for me to vote him for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Unvote AVM I'm satisfied with what he's offered for now. Vote Klecko To answer AVM, his first mafia game was the one i modded. I find his behavior significantly different from that one (though it is early), which is a good enough reason for me to vote him for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think it's Kleck's second game here. First game was Doggins bastard mod Red Scare game. The second I believe was JVOR's super hero game. I actually voted for him on a gag but his silence and lack of contribution have me weary as well. ahh i think you're right. I forgot the red scare one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think it's Kleck's second game here. First game was Doggins bastard mod Red Scare game. The second I believe was JVOR's super hero game. I actually voted for him on a gag but his silence and lack of contribution have me weary as well. ahh i think you're right. I forgot the red scare one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 As I alluded to in the first post -- if he's played before, he gets my vote for now. If nothing more than to get him talking and see what's up. Vote: Klecko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 As I alluded to in the first post -- if he's played before, he gets my vote for now. If nothing more than to get him talking and see what's up. Vote: Klecko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Ok, here's my take so far. The Integrity/Jetscode scuffle really seems odd to me. I know they're both legit noobs, but the "you're not acting like a noob" "no YOU'RE not acting like a noob!" act really sticks out to me most of all. I agree with the sentiment of not booting a noob for fear of losing new players, but their interaction really bothers me. Not saying both or even one are scum, as I remember my first game and how stupid some of the things I said (and to be fair, still say) were. When did said scuffle happen? Are you sure its me you are thinking of? I haven't had any disagreements with anyone... is it possible you are creating false suspicion based upon events that didn't transpire as a reaction to me voting for you prematurely? I alluded to Crusher/CTM in the past post, nothing really sticks out to me yet. Crusher continually saying his own name reminds me of a role from a past game, when the player had to speak in third person ever so often...though I'm in no way saying thats the case here. Agreed. The 3rd person dialogue is curious. Not sure what to make of it yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Ok, here's my take so far. The Integrity/Jetscode scuffle really seems odd to me. I know they're both legit noobs, but the "you're not acting like a noob" "no YOU'RE not acting like a noob!" act really sticks out to me most of all. I agree with the sentiment of not booting a noob for fear of losing new players, but their interaction really bothers me. Not saying both or even one are scum, as I remember my first game and how stupid some of the things I said (and to be fair, still say) were. When did said scuffle happen? Are you sure its me you are thinking of? I haven't had any disagreements with anyone... is it possible you are creating false suspicion based upon events that didn't transpire as a reaction to me voting for you prematurely? I alluded to Crusher/CTM in the past post, nothing really sticks out to me yet. Crusher continually saying his own name reminds me of a role from a past game, when the player had to speak in third person ever so often...though I'm in no way saying thats the case here. Agreed. The 3rd person dialogue is curious. Not sure what to make of it yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 When did said scuffle happen? Are you sure its me you are thinking of? I haven't had any disagreements with anyone... is it possible you are creating false suspicion based upon events that didn't transpire as a reaction to me voting for you prematurely? Agreed. The 3rd person dialogue is curious. Not sure what to make of it yet... You're absolutely right, I apologize. I meant HessStation and his arguement, not you. I'm mixing up noobs It's back a couple pages if you'd like me to copy/paste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 When did said scuffle happen? Are you sure its me you are thinking of? I haven't had any disagreements with anyone... is it possible you are creating false suspicion based upon events that didn't transpire as a reaction to me voting for you prematurely? Agreed. The 3rd person dialogue is curious. Not sure what to make of it yet... You're absolutely right, I apologize. I meant HessStation and his arguement, not you. I'm mixing up noobs It's back a couple pages if you'd like me to copy/paste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 You're absolutely right, I apologize. I meant HessStation and his arguement, not you. I'm mixing up noobs It's back a couple pages if you'd like me to copy/paste No need to copy/paste... this should set the record straight. Well played though... you may have done just enough to get me to change my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 You're absolutely right, I apologize. I meant HessStation and his arguement, not you. I'm mixing up noobs It's back a couple pages if you'd like me to copy/paste No need to copy/paste... this should set the record straight. Well played though... you may have done just enough to get me to change my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Crusher continually saying his own name reminds me of a role from a past game, when the player had to speak in third person ever so often...though I'm in no way saying thats the case here. That was Arsis... After the 1st day the novelty had worn off and I'm sure it was just as cumbersome for him to have to do it as it was for us to have to read it. If memory serves he was in fact innocent though... Not sure that's the case here though.. I think Crusher is so enamored with himself he doesn't see anything wrong with going Ricky Henderson on us. Harmless enough unless he keeps doing it then there may be more to talk about. I was going to say earlier that I didn't want this to turn into a month long game but feared those with itchy trigger fingers might try to make something out of it. Since you brought it up and others have agreed I'm ready to start forming a solid train against someone and seeing what happens. Kleck is at about a 3 out of 10 on the doosh meter which is unlike him... that's as good a reason as any at this point to: VOTE KLECKO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Crusher continually saying his own name reminds me of a role from a past game, when the player had to speak in third person ever so often...though I'm in no way saying thats the case here. That was Arsis... After the 1st day the novelty had worn off and I'm sure it was just as cumbersome for him to have to do it as it was for us to have to read it. If memory serves he was in fact innocent though... Not sure that's the case here though.. I think Crusher is so enamored with himself he doesn't see anything wrong with going Ricky Henderson on us. Harmless enough unless he keeps doing it then there may be more to talk about. I was going to say earlier that I didn't want this to turn into a month long game but feared those with itchy trigger fingers might try to make something out of it. Since you brought it up and others have agreed I'm ready to start forming a solid train against someone and seeing what happens. Kleck is at about a 3 out of 10 on the doosh meter which is unlike him... that's as good a reason as any at this point to: VOTE KLECKO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just for the noobs (and a reminder to all of us, honestly)-- IF Klecko's vote number gets up high, don't jump to lynching him without letting him speak. He may be acting fishy, but we have to let him speak in the event he's a town power role. I was a part of lynching the town cop I believe one time because of this "speed lynching," and I believe I went down in what mostly a speed lynch as a roleblocker once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just for the noobs (and a reminder to all of us, honestly)-- IF Klecko's vote number gets up high, don't jump to lynching him without letting him speak. He may be acting fishy, but we have to let him speak in the event he's a town power role. I was a part of lynching the town cop I believe one time because of this "speed lynching," and I believe I went down in what mostly a speed lynch as a roleblocker once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 That was Arsis... After the 1st day the novelty had worn off and I'm sure it was just as cumbersome for him to have to do it as it was for us to have to read it. If memory serves he was in fact innocent though... Not sure that's the case here though.. I think Crusher is so enamored with himself he doesn't see anything wrong with going Ricky Henderson on us. Harmless enough unless he keeps doing it then there may be more to talk about. I was going to say earlier that I didn't want this to turn into a month long game but feared those with itchy trigger fingers might try to make something out of it. Since you brought it up and others have agreed I'm ready to start forming a solid train against someone and seeing what happens. Kleck is at about a 3 out of 10 on the doosh meter which is unlike him... that's as good a reason as any at this point to: VOTE KLECKO Yeah that's basically what I'm saying. Mods sometimes throw quirky little things into games, but it's just something to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 That was Arsis... After the 1st day the novelty had worn off and I'm sure it was just as cumbersome for him to have to do it as it was for us to have to read it. If memory serves he was in fact innocent though... Not sure that's the case here though.. I think Crusher is so enamored with himself he doesn't see anything wrong with going Ricky Henderson on us. Harmless enough unless he keeps doing it then there may be more to talk about. I was going to say earlier that I didn't want this to turn into a month long game but feared those with itchy trigger fingers might try to make something out of it. Since you brought it up and others have agreed I'm ready to start forming a solid train against someone and seeing what happens. Kleck is at about a 3 out of 10 on the doosh meter which is unlike him... that's as good a reason as any at this point to: VOTE KLECKO Yeah that's basically what I'm saying. Mods sometimes throw quirky little things into games, but it's just something to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just for the noobs (and a reminder to all of us, honestly)-- IF Klecko's vote number gets up high, don't jump to lynching him without letting him speak. He may be acting fishy, but we have to let him speak in the event he's a town power role. I was a part of lynching the town cop I believe one time because of this "speed lynching," and I believe I went down in what mostly a speed lynch as a roleblocker once. You are working overtime trying to get someone else in the crosshairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just for the noobs (and a reminder to all of us, honestly)-- IF Klecko's vote number gets up high, don't jump to lynching him without letting him speak. He may be acting fishy, but we have to let him speak in the event he's a town power role. I was a part of lynching the town cop I believe one time because of this "speed lynching," and I believe I went down in what mostly a speed lynch as a roleblocker once. You are working overtime trying to get someone else in the crosshairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutout Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 AVM are you usually this active? I don't have the best memory of past games but you definitely seem more visible to me so far and are almost taking on a leadership role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutout Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 AVM are you usually this active? I don't have the best memory of past games but you definitely seem more visible to me so far and are almost taking on a leadership role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 For the record just about every time I've seen the work/school excuse for lack of participation that person has wound up being scum. JVOR, Shutout, Vic, and SMC have all used it and if I'm remembering correctly they all were scum. Not ready to say that's the case with IJ but definitely something to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 For the record just about every time I've seen the work/school excuse for lack of participation that person has wound up being scum. JVOR, Shutout, Vic, and SMC have all used it and if I'm remembering correctly they all were scum. Not ready to say that's the case with IJ but definitely something to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just for the noobs (and a reminder to all of us, honestly)-- IF Klecko's vote number gets up high, don't jump to lynching him without letting him speak. He may be acting fishy, but we have to let him speak in the event he's a town power role. I was a part of lynching the town cop I believe one time because of this "speed lynching," and I believe I went down in what mostly a speed lynch as a roleblocker once. What is a roleblocker? Read a little on Wiki but I'm still confused. Any help greatly appreciated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Just for the noobs (and a reminder to all of us, honestly)-- IF Klecko's vote number gets up high, don't jump to lynching him without letting him speak. He may be acting fishy, but we have to let him speak in the event he's a town power role. I was a part of lynching the town cop I believe one time because of this "speed lynching," and I believe I went down in what mostly a speed lynch as a roleblocker once. What is a roleblocker? Read a little on Wiki but I'm still confused. Any help greatly appreciated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 AVM are you usually this active? I don't have the best memory of past games but you definitely seem more visible to me so far and are almost taking on a leadership role. His sudden outburst of activity means he is either nervous about having 2 votes, OR possibly in some role that I don't fully have my finger on yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 AVM are you usually this active? I don't have the best memory of past games but you definitely seem more visible to me so far and are almost taking on a leadership role. His sudden outburst of activity means he is either nervous about having 2 votes, OR possibly in some role that I don't fully have my finger on yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 For the record just about every time I've seen the work/school excuse for lack of participation that person has wound up being scum. JVOR, Shutout, Vic, and SMC have all used it and if I'm remembering correctly they all were scum. Not ready to say that's the case with IJ but definitely something to consider. You bring up an excellent point, and I follow you, BUT -- there was a game when my participation waivered from day to day due to classes/intramurals/etc. It got me killed that game, and while I'm not sure if that was the roleblocker game or not, I know for sure I was a townie. Again, I'm with you that theres no way to say something one way or the other there yet. SMC brought up an excellent point with the overall mood during gameday threads and such. What is a roleblocker? Read a little on Wiki but I'm still confused. Any help greatly appreciated... Roleblocker is a town power role. The roleblocker submits the name of one person during night actions, and IF that person has an available action, such as a Vigilante, scum submitting night kill, OR the cop/doc (so the roleblocker can hurt his own cause), that persons night ability is nullified. It can be very helpful, very dangerous, or do nothing at all. Roleblocker is also not notified if his/her actions were successful or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 For the record just about every time I've seen the work/school excuse for lack of participation that person has wound up being scum. JVOR, Shutout, Vic, and SMC have all used it and if I'm remembering correctly they all were scum. Not ready to say that's the case with IJ but definitely something to consider. You bring up an excellent point, and I follow you, BUT -- there was a game when my participation waivered from day to day due to classes/intramurals/etc. It got me killed that game, and while I'm not sure if that was the roleblocker game or not, I know for sure I was a townie. Again, I'm with you that theres no way to say something one way or the other there yet. SMC brought up an excellent point with the overall mood during gameday threads and such. What is a roleblocker? Read a little on Wiki but I'm still confused. Any help greatly appreciated... Roleblocker is a town power role. The roleblocker submits the name of one person during night actions, and IF that person has an available action, such as a Vigilante, scum submitting night kill, OR the cop/doc (so the roleblocker can hurt his own cause), that persons night ability is nullified. It can be very helpful, very dangerous, or do nothing at all. Roleblocker is also not notified if his/her actions were successful or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What is a roleblocker? Read a little on Wiki but I'm still confused. Any help greatly appreciated... Yeah, I am reading the wiki now... and all the roles are confusing... I'm not sure what the point is. Are we supposed to try to call out people's roles as we figure them out? Or do we just sit on what we think we've figured out. 'cause there are a lot of roles... I mean Klecko could have been ordered to be silent today, AVM could be a detective (based upon his sudden, and long deductive posts today) or he could be in some sort of alignment role... as he is clearly trying to influence the majority into voting for Klecko (while he himself has 2 votes). Ugh. I under-estimated the learning curve on all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 What is a roleblocker? Read a little on Wiki but I'm still confused. Any help greatly appreciated... Yeah, I am reading the wiki now... and all the roles are confusing... I'm not sure what the point is. Are we supposed to try to call out people's roles as we figure them out? Or do we just sit on what we think we've figured out. 'cause there are a lot of roles... I mean Klecko could have been ordered to be silent today, AVM could be a detective (based upon his sudden, and long deductive posts today) or he could be in some sort of alignment role... as he is clearly trying to influence the majority into voting for Klecko (while he himself has 2 votes). Ugh. I under-estimated the learning curve on all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Re: shutout and Integrity and my activity. My first couple of games, I laid back the entire time, tried not to draw too much attention and mostly didnt want to noob myself out of the game. The last game I played, I bumped my activity WAY up, and it was very noticeable, and got myself killed for it. You'll notice here a couple of things, when I post, it'll be in big bursts. I have an 8 AM class tuesday/thursday which I post during, and the rest of the time whenever I get to the computer I try to get as much in at once so I don't give a sort of popcorn response. As for Integrity, I've been in the top 3/4 in post counts since the beginning (until this afternoon when I didnt post for a while)-- so as for the votes, just post count wise there's not much to that. Of course, you could probably say I'd say that if I was getting nervous , but, as I alluded to much earlier in a response to you I think?, on day 1, theres no need to get jumpy on a couple of votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Re: shutout and Integrity and my activity. My first couple of games, I laid back the entire time, tried not to draw too much attention and mostly didnt want to noob myself out of the game. The last game I played, I bumped my activity WAY up, and it was very noticeable, and got myself killed for it. You'll notice here a couple of things, when I post, it'll be in big bursts. I have an 8 AM class tuesday/thursday which I post during, and the rest of the time whenever I get to the computer I try to get as much in at once so I don't give a sort of popcorn response. As for Integrity, I've been in the top 3/4 in post counts since the beginning (until this afternoon when I didnt post for a while)-- so as for the votes, just post count wise there's not much to that. Of course, you could probably say I'd say that if I was getting nervous , but, as I alluded to much earlier in a response to you I think?, on day 1, theres no need to get jumpy on a couple of votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutout Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 For the record just about every time I've seen the work/school excuse for lack of participation that person has wound up being scum. JVOR, Shutout, Vic, and SMC have all used it and if I'm remembering correctly they all were scum. Not ready to say that's the case with IJ but definitely something to consider. To be fair though at least in my case the 2 things were not related. I may have been scum but I also was legitimately working a whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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