flgreen Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 A review of the Jets' depth chart July, 19, 2011 Jul 19 1:50 PM ET By Rich Cimini With the NFL labor dispute reportedly in its final stages, the lockout could be lifted as soon as Friday -- and you know what that means. It'll be madness, with free-agent signings, rookie signings, trades, etc. As a refresher, here's an updated depth chart (our version), based on the roster posted on NewYorkJets.com. Unrestricted free agents are in caps, rookies in italics. Some quick observations: Obviously, the big story is wide receiver, where the Jets have three key free agents. Potentially, they also face significant turnover in the secondary. They're thin on the offensive line and linebacker, areas that could be targeted with undrafted free agents. So here you go, a complete depth chart. Chances are, it's going to look a lot different in about 10 days. OFFENSE WR BRAYLON EDWARDS, BRAD SMITH, Patrick Turner, Logan Payne LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson LG Matt Slauson, Dennis Landolt C Nick Mangold, Rob Turner, Robby Felix RG Brandon Moore, Marlon Davis RT Vladimir Ducasse, WAYNE HUNTER TE Dustin Keller, Matt Mulligan, Jeff Cumberland WR SANTONIO HOLMES, Jerricho Cotchery, Jeremy Kerley, Scotty McKnight QB Mark Sanchez, Mark Brunell, KELLEN CLEMENS, Kevin O'Connell, Greg McElroy FB TONY RICHARDSON, John Conner RB Shonn Greene, LaDainian Tomlinson, Joe McKnight, Bilal Powell, Carlos Brown, Chris Jennings DEFENSE DE SHAUN ELLIS, Ropati Pitoitua, Muhammad Wilkerson NT Sione Pouha, Martin Tevaseu, Kenrick Ellis DT Mike DeVito, TREVOR PRYCE, Marcus Dixon, Jarron Gilbert, Matt Kroul, Carlton Powell OLB Calvin Pace, Garrett McIntyre ILB Bart Scott, Josh Mauga, Joey LaRocque, Brian Toal ILB David Harris, LANCE LAURY, Brashton Satele OLB Bryan Thomas, Jamaal Westerman, Brandon Long CB ANTONIO CROMARTIE, Kyle Wilson, Marquice Cole, Will Billingsley CB Darrelle Revis, DREW COLEMAN, Ellis Lankster, Richard Taylor S Jim Leonhard, Dwight Lowery, Emmanuel Cook S BRODNEY POOL, ERIC SMITH, JAMES IHEDIGBO SPECIALISTS PK NICK FOLK, Nick Novak P STEVE WEATHERFORD, T.J. Conley LS Tanner Purdum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLguerriero1 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 i didnt know we had toal.... if he could get back to his freshmen form he could be a damn good special teamer/ first lb off the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Interesting to sit back and really look at everything besides just the obvious discussion points (i.e., WRs). While RT is obviously a big question, depth on the OL overall definitely needs to be addressed, as Turner is pretty much the only capable backup the Jets have on the roster. Even if Vlad is capable of starting, they need another tackle in the fold who they trust to play. The rest of these guy's careers to date have pretty much just been camp fodder. The DL for the Jets may be in the best shape it's been in in years now if these rookies work out. I'd like to see them bring Ellis back to cover their asses, but beyond that they're in pretty damn good shape there. Safety is an f'n disaster; the Jets have a player coming off a major injury, a converted CB and a former camp cut who got picked up out of desperation late in the season. That said, there's a solid chance that the Jets bring back multiple of Pool, Smith and Ihedigbo, although it would still be a position that could use upgrading. Should also be interesting to see if they resign Folk/Weatherford or bring in some alternative options to compete with Novak/Conley, as I can't imagine them handing the job to either guy. That said, the Jets are clearly fans of Conley, as this is now the third consecutive year they're bringing him back to compete in camp, and I remember last year it being said (on Hard Knocks maybe?) how much of an issue consistency is for punters early in their NFL careers and it takes a lot of these guys a few years to get past that, which seemed to be the mark against him. That said, I'd still like for them to bring Weatherford back in this competition, just in case. He's certainly had his own consistency issues, but the fact is that punting in the NFL has just gotten so bad, and the guy is actually better than a lot of people in the league and better than anything the Jets have had at punter in a long time. Graham was alright, but do we really need to forget the endless stream of sh*t this team had before him? I'd rather not repeat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 thanks Cimini for pointing out who is a free agent. Stellar reporting. a couple days ago i tried to fill out a 53 man... here's what I came up with... jets very early roster projection Offense 25 QB 3 QB Mark Sanchez QB Mark Brunell QB Greg McElroy RB 4 RB Ladanian Tomlinson RB Shonn Greene RB Joe McKnight RB Bilal Powell FB 1 FB John Conner OL 8 OL DBrick Ferguson OL Nick Mangold OL Brandon Moore OL Matt Slauson OL Vlad Ducasse OL Damien Woody* OL Robby Felix OL TBD TE 3 TE Dustin Keller TE Matthew Mulligan TE Jeff Cumberland WR 6 WR Santonio Holmes* WR Jericho Cotchery WR Randy Moss* WR Patrick Turner WR Jeremy Kirley WR Logan Payne *** DE 5 DE Mike Devito DE Mo Wilkerson DE Marcus Dixon DE Rapoti Pitoitua DE Jarron Gilbert NT 3 NT Sione Pouha NT Kendrick Ellis NT Martin Tevaseu OLB 4 OLB Calvin Pace OLB Bryan Thomas OLB Jamaal Westerman OLB Garrett MacIntyre ILB 4 ILB Bart Scott ILB David Harris ILB Josh Mauga ILB Brashton Satele CB 5 CB Darrelle Revis CB Kyle Wilson CB Dwight Lowery CB Marqese Cole CB Will Billingsley S 4 S Jim Leonard S Brodney Pool* S Emmanuel Cook S TBD *** Specials 3 K Nick Folk P T.J. Conley LS Tanner Purdum *** players they sign (and how) Santonio Holmes (long term with incentives to stay unsuspended) Brodney Pool (short deal 2 years or so) Woody (short deal maybe vets min pending health) Randy Moss (Short deal with incentives) TBD players - 8th OL (swing tackle) and 4th safety (Free safety for coverage) - both of these could be veteran free agents or UDFA. notable players let walk or retire WR Braylon Edwards CB Antonio Cromartie DE Shaun Ellis WR Brad Smith OT Wayne Hunter DE Trevor Pryce OLB Jason Taylor FB Tony Richardson CB Drew Coleman FS Eric Smith SS James Ihedibo OC Robert Turner P Steve Weatherford Practice squad WR Scotty McKnight LB Brandon Long OG Dennis Landolt LB Joey LaRoque DT Carlton Powell DE Lorenzo Washington DB Richard Taylor 1 more UDFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Mark Brunell are you kidding me? He sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Mark Brunell are you kidding me? He sucks. Agreed. Keep Clemens over that d!ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Mark Brunell are you kidding me? He sucks. Woody is keeping him around to buy any toxic real estate assets he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 satele ? didn't he open up a pizza joint ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Can't recall who had it, but someone quoted a "personnel guy" as saying that if the salary cap is (as projected) around $120M, that a bunch of teams are going to dump a lot of salary to get ready for the free agency period. Point being, there's no way to predict the final roster of any team right now. Big names are going to shake free during the three-day window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyandthejets Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Satele and not Westerman!??!? Westerman was ilb i thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Woody is keeping him around to buy any toxic real estate assets he has. Brunell is broke hes also bankrupt. Cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 thanks Cimini for pointing out who is a free agent. Stellar reporting. a couple days ago i tried to fill out a 53 man... here's what I came up with... jets very early roster projection Offense 25 OLB 4 OLB Calvin Pace OLB Bryan Thomas OLB Jamaal Westerman OLB Garrett MacIntyre S 4 S Jim Leonard S Brodney Pool* S Emmanuel Cook S TBD (Free safety for coverage) notable players let walk or retire FS Eric Smith SS James Ihedibo Yeah, his inclusion of FA players is odd. He lists FAs as if they will be back, but ignores guys cut for salary reasons that they may well bring back, such as Woody and Hartsock. Any reason that you prefer MacIntyre to the other FAs, like Cody Brown? I'm not so sure that they will be keeping Satele and Mauga unless at least one is a beast on specials. One thing I disagree with is your analysis of the safety situation. You have them keeping the 3 coverage safeties and then expect a 4th "free safety for coverage"? I don't see it. Ihedigbo is great on specials and I see them bringing him back. Especially if they let Smith walk. Lowery has also played there and at safety he certainly fits the coverage side better. Consider the success they had employing Smith at LB in the playoffs. I think they will want at least another banger at safety and none of that crew comes close to fitting the bill. Agreed. Keep Clemens over that d!ck. You can keep trying, but that ship sailed last year. They sure don't seem to agree with you. If you like Clemens you should hope there is a team out there that still likes him because the Jets evidently aren't very fond of him. Satele and not Westerman!??!? Westerman was ilb i thought. Bit has Westerman making it at OLB. His first season they worked him at ILB, but I think they were trying him at OLB last year. I heard he was banged up, but I didn't see him do much in 2010. It's time for him to put up or he's gone. As I said before, I'd be a little surprised at Satele and Mauga. If they keep 4 ILBs I feel there is a good chance one is strictly a special teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Brunell is broke hes also bankrupt. Cut him. Yes, well that was the joke. Brunell filed for bankruptcy because he lost some $25M more than he had on a real estate deal. Make sure you actually get a joke first before you decide to find alleged holes in it. I learned this the first day in Message Board Smart-assing 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Your SO STUPID Sperm Edwardumbass. Why would the chicken even want to cross the road??? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 . No YORE so stupid. You dont evin no Tom is spelled with an o not a 0. Duh read a buk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Any reason that you prefer MacIntyre to the other FAs, like Cody Brown? i just dont think Cody brown is any good. Prove me wrong cody. I'm not so sure that they will be keeping Satele and Mauga unless at least one is a beast on specials. I think Satele has real defense potential and Mauga is gonna be the ST guy. Laury won't be back so they both play specials. Ihedigbo is great on specials and I see them bringing him back. Especially if they let Smith walk. possibly but the price would have to be right. there are about a million SS Undrafted rookies out there... you could be right about bringing him back tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 i just dont think Cody brown is any good. Prove me wrong cody. I think Satele has real defense potential and Mauga is gonna be the ST guy. Laury won't be back so they both play specials. possibly but the price would have to be right. there are about a million SS Undrafted rookies out there... you could be right about bringing him back tho. I think Ihedigbo is one of the low end guys that comes back. I don't see price being a factor because I think he's a vet minimum guy (or close to it) regardless. That's not to say if some UDFA comes in and lights it up out of the gate he won't be able to take his job, but given the short time frame we're working under for that to happen, not to mention Ihedigbo's knowledge of the playbook and special team's abilities, I don't really see that happening. Under different circumstances I probably wouldn't feel so confident it would happen, but given the Jets safety situation and this very limited offseason, I think they've got to bring at least one or two of those guys back. Frankly, I was surprised he had even already accrued enough seasons to be an UFA, time sure does fly. Only way I see Ihedigbo gone is if Jets keep Pool (likely since he's the closest thing they have to a coverage safety) and choose Smith over Ihedigbo based on his late-season play, with that last spot being saved for a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 T0mShane Palatable Group: Members Posts: 6,790 Joined: 01-April 09 Posted Today, 08:49 AM visajets said: Your SO STUPID Sperm Edwardumbass. Why would the chicken even want to cross the road??? . I DID NOT WRITE THIS!!!!! THIS IS THE OBVIOUS WORK OF A DOUCHE NOZZLE.....WHY ISNT HE BANNED? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Oh my ******* god, can we seriously stop dealing with this sh*t in every single thread? I don't give a crap how much you don't like each other on the board or in real life, take it somewhere else. If you need to bitch at each other in the lounge that's one thing, but stop polluting every single football thread with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Oh my ******* god, can we seriously stop dealing with this sh*t in every single thread? I don't give a crap how much you don't like each other on the board or in real life, take it somewhere else. If you need to bitch at each other in the lounge that's one thing, but stop polluting every single football thread with it. You tell 'em, BG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I think LANCE LAURY stays. He was a big contributor on special teams last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 jets roster projection...Not much room to make this team Offense 24 QB 3 QB Mark Sanchez QB Mark Brunell QB Greg McElroy RB 4 RB Ladanian Tomlinson RB Shonn Greene RB Joe McKnight RB Bilal Powell FB 1 FB John Conner OL 7 OL DBrick Ferguson OL Nick Mangold OL Brandon Moore OL Matt Slauson OL Vlad Ducasse OL Rob Turner OL Wayne Hunter TE 3 TE Dustin Keller TE Matthew Mulligan TE Jeff Cumberland WR 6 WR Santonio Holmes* WR Jericho Cotchery WR Plaxico Burress WR Patrick Turner WR Jeremy Kirley WR Scotty McKnight *** Defense 26 DE 6 DE Mike Devito DE Mo Wilkerson DE Marcus Dixon DE Rapoti Pitoitua DE Jarron Gilbert DE Shaun Ellis NT 2 NT Sione Pouha NT Kendrick Ellis OLB 4 OLB Calvin Pace OLB Bryan Thomas OLB Jamaal Westerman OLB TBD ILB 3 ILB Bart Scott ILB David Harris ILB Josh Mauga CB 6 CB Darrelle Revis CB Kyle Wilson CB Dwight Lowery CB Marqese Cole CB AntonioCromartie CB Donald Strickland S 5 S Jim Leonard S Brodney Pool* S Emmanuel Cook S Erik Smith S/LB James Ihedibo *** Specials 3 K Nick Folk P T.J. Conley LS Tanner Purdum *** Practice squad WR Courtney Smith LB Brashton Satele OG Dennis Landolt LB Garret McEntyre LB Nick Bellore 3 more UDFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 That seems pretty legit, but there might be a little more room than you think. Granted, making a roster as a fringe FA or UDFA is going to that much more difficult than usual this year for any team, but consider that of the guys you listed there's a number of players who are no lock to make the roster. Just at a quick glance, I'd say guys like Patrick Turner, Jarron Gilbert, Josh Mauga and Emmanuel Cook could certainly lose out on their roster spots if they don't earn them in camp, with their main advantage being familiarity with the coaching staff and system. On top of that, both Shaun Ellis and James Ihedigbo are still UFAs, and there's no guarantee of their return. Not to say that there isn't a very good chance that the roster could turn out exactly as you predicted, but if there's a guy who proves himself enough in TC to overcome the lack of offseason, there's certainly room that can be made for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Seriously, try and make a kickoff team with the roster above and it's tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 TE 3 TE Dustin Keller TE Matthew Mulligan TE Jeff Cumberland paging mike tannenbaum, paging mike tannenbaum....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 TE 3 TE Dustin Keller TE Matthew Mulligan TE Jeff Cumberland paging mike tannenbaum, paging mike tannenbaum....... They seem to love Cumberland and Mulligan can block a bit so I think they could stand pat at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 JonE's projection is pretty good, but a couple of comments. Too many safeties. I don't know if they'll bring 'dig back, but if they do Cook will likely be gone. Maybe Morgan? Guy will have to play specials. I think that Lowery will get some run at safety. Did anybody hear where they were trying him? I was surprised they didn't sign Donovan Warren. They had him around most of the year working from CB to S, but when they needed a body they went for Fitzhugh and then Cook. maybe they didn't like him much. I think MTV makes the squad at NT. They had him active against the Steelers and it may take Kenrick some time to be ready. I think another LB for specials will probably make it - Satele and/or your TBD or one of the LBs picked up during futures time in February. They seem to love Cumberland and Mulligan can block a bit so I think they could stand pat at that position. I agree. I don't see any problem with the TE position. Keller is a solid receiver. They carried Cumberland all last season for a reason, so I assume that he will get a shot. Mulligan was active and played in better than 10 games last year. I think they liked him plenty. I assume he will take Hartsock's role. It would be nice to add a quality all-rounder, but Boss will COST and is just an adequate blocker. They have two receiving TEs already, I can't see adding another. More likely a practice squad level bruiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 JonE's projection is pretty good, but a couple of comments. Too many safeties. I don't know if they'll bring 'dig back, but if they do Cook will likely be gone. Maybe Morgan? Guy will have to play specials. I think that Lowery will get some run at safety. Did anybody hear where they were trying him? I was surprised they didn't sign Donovan Warren. They had him around most of the year working from CB to S, but when they needed a body they went for Fitzhugh and then Cook. maybe they didn't like him much. I think MTV makes the squad at NT. They had him active against the Steelers and it may take Kenrick some time to be ready. I think another LB for specials will probably make it - Satele and/or your TBD or one of the LBs picked up during futures time in February. I agree. I don't see any problem with the TE position. Keller is a solid receiver. They carried Cumberland all last season for a reason, so I assume that he will get a shot. Mulligan was active and played in better than 10 games last year. I think they liked him plenty. I assume he will take Hartsock's role. It would be nice to add a quality all-rounder, but Boss will COST and is just an adequate blocker. They have two receiving TEs already, I can't see adding another. More likely a practice squad level bruiser. I didn't go to camp much last year but when I was there Cumberland looked terrible. Can't wait to see him producing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I didn't go to camp much last year but when I was there Cumberland looked terrible. Can't wait to see him producing! He's big and he's fast. I was happy when he signed as an UDFA. Of couse, he might still suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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