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[Maxman]

Big download numbers again this week. Thanks again everyone.

[courtnj18]

Who's telling you to cheer for Mark? I'm pretty sure thats the reason we all think you might have a few screws loose.

My point is - that I do cheer for him, and get sh*t for it

[T0mShane]

My point is - that I do cheer for him, and get sh*t for it

I'm going to say this because I love you deeply. Like, deeply. People don't give you sh*t because you like Sanchez. People give you sh*t because you don't offer any sort of qualified statistical or reason-based defense for liking Mark, and you reject out-of-hand any counter that suggests your opinion might be superficially informed. This group will entertain all sorts of rationales for liking certain players (see the Chad Pennington files). But to ask us weekly to listen in to your podcast (which I think we'd all like to see succeed), and not put any effort into explainig what has become an increasingly irrational talking point, merits backlash.

For the record, I do not blame you. I blame Max for not pressing the issue in between his attempts to smell your hair.

[bitonti]

But to ask us weekly to listen in to your podcast (which I think we'd all like to see succeed), and not put any effort into explainig what has become an increasingly irrational talking point, merits backlash.

meh. it's good for the podcast to have differing opinions. If it was Max and Max #2 who agreed with everything, that's not as good.

[T0mShane]

meh. it's good for the podcast to have differing opinions. If it was Max and Max #2 who agreed with everything, that's not as good.

Max offers only nominal, if ever, protestations. He sounds like a dude being asked his opinion on a stripper's lip gloss.

[RutgersJetFan]

They do make it sound like you are still calling for Mark to be the starter.

Yeah. She throws out a Tom Brady corollary, and we're the unreasonable ones.

[Maxman]

I'm going to say this because I love you deeply. Like, deeply. People don't give you sh*t because you like Sanchez. People give you sh*t because you don't offer any sort of qualified statistical or reason-based defense for liking Mark, and you reject out-of-hand any counter that suggests your opinion might be superficially informed. This group will entertain all sorts of rationales for liking certain players (see the Chad Pennington files). But to ask us weekly to listen in to your podcast (which I think we'd all like to see succeed), and not put any effort into explainig what has become an increasingly irrational talking point, merits backlash.

For the record, I do not blame you. I blame Max for not pressing the issue in between his attempts to smell your hair.

tl:dr

[Maxman]

Max offers only nominal, if ever, protestations. He sounds like a dude being asked his opinion on a stripper's lip gloss.

Tom you are maturing. In the past when you wrote accusations like this you did it in invisible ink. This is progress.

[courtnj18]

I'm going to say this because I love you deeply. Like, deeply. People don't give you sh*t because you like Sanchez. People give you sh*t because you don't offer any sort of qualified statistical or reason-based defense for liking Mark, and you reject out-of-hand any counter that suggests your opinion might be superficially informed. This group will entertain all sorts of rationales for liking certain players (see the Chad Pennington files). But to ask us weekly to listen in to your podcast (which I think we'd all like to see succeed), and not put any effort into explainig what has become an increasingly irrational talking point, merits backlash.

For the record, I do not blame you. I blame Max for not pressing the issue in between his attempts to smell your hair.

I have backed up my reasoning, and I'll say it again -
He was a great QB at USC, and he brought the Jets to the AFC his first two years. As a rookie, that is very impressive. Everyone will have his/her own opinion, especially about the Jets. This site would not exist, or at least be very vanilla if everyone agreed and life was perfect (PatriotNation.com) If our next starting QB is awesome, I'd support him as well. sh*t, if TEBOW were a decent QB and actually had something to prove I'd support him. But no - he sucked. Do you hate that I support keeping Shonn Greene as well? I hope you do.

[Maxman]

I have backed up my reasoning, and I'll say it again -
He was a great QB at USC, and he brought the Jets to the AFC his first two years. As a rookie, that is very impressive. Everyone will have his/her own opinion, especially about the Jets. This site would not exist, or at least be very vanilla if everyone agreed and life was perfect (PatriotNation.com) If our next starting QB is awesome, I'd support him as well. sh*t, if TEBOW were a decent QB and actually had something to prove I'd support him. But no - he sucked. Do you hate that I support keeping Shonn Greene as well? I hope you do.

I will read your post later. I just want to chime in and say ur hair smellz good today.

LOL.

[Maxman]

I have backed up my reasoning, and I'll say it again -
He was a great QB at USC, and he brought the Jets to the AFC his first two years. As a rookie, that is very impressive. Everyone will have his/her own opinion, especially about the Jets. This site would not exist, or at least be very vanilla if everyone agreed and life was perfect (PatriotNation.com) If our next starting QB is awesome, I'd support him as well. sh*t, if TEBOW were a decent QB and actually had something to prove I'd support him. But no - he sucked. Do you hate that I support keeping Shonn Greene as well? I hope you do.

What I like is that you aren't a Tebow-Maniac kind of fan. You have expressed that you are a Jets fan first. We have disagreed on just about every Podcast. Tom apparently wants us to just sit there and brawl it out.

Next week we get to talk about McElroy so that should be a nice refreshing change.

[T0mShane]

He was a great QB at USC,

What does this mean?

and he brought the Jets to the AFC his first two years.

No he didn't. Peep the stats.

As a rookie, that is very impressive.

Is it? More or less impressive than Andrew Luck or RGIII, for instance? Context. Context.

Everyone will have his/her own opinion, especially about the Jets. This site would not exist, or at least be very vanilla if everyone agreed and life was perfect (PatriotNation.com)

Thoughtful debate is what this site was built around. Also, my charisma, and Phil's knowledge of HTML.

If our next starting QB is awesome, I'd support him as well.

The term "awesome" stopped carrying weight right after 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure'.

sh*t, if TEBOW were a decent QB and actually had something to prove I'd support him. But no - he sucked.

If Tebow "sucked," then how, exactly, would you describe Mark's play this year? Awesome? Is there a chart where we can compare all the things that Courtney believes to be "awesome" and all the things she thinks "suck"?

Do you hate that I support keeping Shonn Greene as well? I hope you do.

If you make a sound case for Shonn Greene, I'd be titillated. If you say he should return because he's "awesome," then I'd think you're nuts and you haven't really put any thought into your opinion-gathering...as with Sanchez.



<3 you

[courtnj18]

What does this mean?



No he didn't. Peep the stats.



Is it? More or less impressive than Andrew Luck or RGIII, for instance? Context. Context.



Thoughtful debate is what this site was built around. Also, my charisma, and Phil's knowledge of HTML.




The term "awesome" stopped carrying weight right after 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure'.




If Tebow "sucked," then how, exactly, would you describe Mark's play this year? Awesome? Is there a chart where we can compare all the things that Courtney believes to be "awesome" and all the things she thinks "suck"?



If you make a sound case for Shonn Greene, I'd be titillated. If you say he should return because he's "awesome," then I'd think you're nuts and you haven't really put any thought into your opinion-gathering...as with Sanchez.



<3 you

Tom Shane = Courtney's sh*t List

[T0mShane]

What I like is that you aren't a Tebow-Maniac kind of fan.

Yeah, ok.

Tom apparently wants us to just sit there and brawl it out.

There's a lot of room between fawning and brawling there, Cyrano.

Next week we get to talk about McElroy so that should be a nice refreshing change.

MACK-uhl-roy

Edited by T0mShane, 21 December 2012 - 07:19 PM.

[courtnj18]

What does this mean?



No he didn't. Peep the stats.



Is it? More or less impressive than Andrew Luck or RGIII, for instance? Context. Context.



Thoughtful debate is what this site was built around. Also, my charisma, and Phil's knowledge of HTML.




The term "awesome" stopped carrying weight right after 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure'.




If Tebow "sucked," then how, exactly, would you describe Mark's play this year? Awesome? Is there a chart where we can compare all the things that Courtney believes to be "awesome" and all the things she thinks "suck"?



If you make a sound case for Shonn Greene, I'd be titillated. If you say he should return because he's "awesome," then I'd think you're nuts and you haven't really put any thought into your opinion-gathering...as with Sanchez.



<3 you

You obviously only comment on what you disagree with - which is everything I say. I can say grass is green and you'd still try to find a way to rip me. It's not worth feeding you what you're fishing for.

[T0mShane]

Tom Shane = Courtney's sh*t List

I moved from "awesome" to "suck"?

[robertjessica]

I moved from "awesome" to "suck"?

You've always sucked Tom.

[T0mShane]

You obviously only comment on what you disagree with

Which is the essence of debate and all analysis and ostensibly what your podcast is built on. Der.

- which is everything I say.

I'm an engaged consumer.

I can say grass is green and you'd still try to find a way to rip me.

I'm not saying anything to be mean or derisive. I'm speaking as a sports fan who grew up listening to sports radio and media. All the things I say are meant to be constructive. I've repeatedly given you credit for having the guts to step out and do what you do. I find your work charming and sometimes provocative. When I, or JiF, criticize the podcast, it comes from an interest in seeing it improve and do well. Eventually, if you stay with it, we'll rip it for different reasons in the same way we rip Francesa. This is the nature of live performance.

It's not worth feeding you what you're fishing for.

Which is...?

[T0mShane]

You've always sucked Tom.

THIS GUY

[Maxman]

The next Tom says something for the sole purpose of being constructive will be the first time.