CTM Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Top 5? How about Top 10, which a Schitty offense has never been. Or how about Top 15, which it only has been once in 6 years? Have you looked at this offensive roster and said, you know, this is really a bottom half of the NFL every year? Schitty Led Offense: 2006 -- 25th 2007 -- 26th 2008 -- 16th 2009 -- 20th 2010 -- 11th 2011-- 24th Yes 100%, i have.. I don't know how you could reasonably expect any better.. You know I think Chad is awful, so that takes 2006/2007 right off the books. I was excited about Favre mainly cause it ousted Chad... The talent level was very low at skill positions. 2009 Sanchez was a rookie who i didn't even want starting The only year I thought we had a decent talent was 2010, but again, Sanchez is sooo inexperianced I absolutely would not have bet on him to make a leap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Have you looked at this offensive roster and said, you know, this is really a bottom half of the NFL every year? Sure, except for 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Sure, except for 2008. And it was still bottom half in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 And it was still bottom half in 2008. Top half talent one year, top half offense two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 And it was still bottom half in 2008. Not on the rankings you gave it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Not on the rankings you gave it wasn't. Well, it was close to bottom half by 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 his Y/A fell from 7.1 to 5.8 post injury, 7.1 puts him dead in the middle of that stat and Peyton Manning was 7.2.. we also had terrible receivers compared to what we have now, Coles was at the end of the line and Cotch was never that good but wait !!!! They were top five in the NFL and Better than Green Bays when Chad was here ....How is that possible ?? Oh I get it when Favre was here they were Hurt my mistake carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 but wait !!!! They were top five in the NFL and Better than Green Bays when Chad was here ....How is that possible ?? Oh I get it when Favre was here they were Hurt my mistake carry on. no coles was a good reciever, he was done in 2007 cause Chad nearly killed him about 20 times with his floaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 no coles was a good reciever, he was done in 2007 cause Chad nearly killed him about 20 times with his floaters ahh yes the floaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 None of that happened during introductions. Jet fans are whiny little bitches, that's why they boo during introductions. Completely agree. Same ole Jets fans scenario. I can see booing poor performance during the course of the game but not during intros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 You don't need to "set the world on fire". You need to have an offense that wins games. 29+ points does that. Our offense was good enough to win, and we would have, had Favre not gotten hurt. Not sure but I think I remember the first half of that year we scored a lot of defensive and special teams touchdowns along with short fields as a resut of those units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets90 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Not sure but I think I remember the first half of that year we scored a lot of defensive and special teams touchdowns along with short fields as a resut of those units. The Jets forced 30 turnovers in 2008. That was 4 off the league lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Not sure but I think I remember the first half of that year we scored a lot of defensive and special teams touchdowns along with short fields as a resut of those units. I'm guessing in your comparative analysis, you've also factored out short fields, defensive, and special teams turnovers from all the other teams in the league that year, as well as the Jets teams in years prior and after, under Schotty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 He was booed because he deserved it. This is something new? Jets fans are bad because they didnt cheer? Didnt you guys watch the Denver or N.E. games??? Did you watch the Bills game?? Turns out the pre-emptive boos were justified. What........they were supposed to give the little stinker a standing "O" ? Hers a unique concept for those who think its wrong to boo little Marky. Good players get cheers, lousy ones get booed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Just wrote a blog post on the Sanchez booing incident. Had it ready to go and realized I disagreed with my premise. Bye bye blog post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 He was booed because he deserved it. This is something new? Jets fans are bad because they didnt cheer? Didnt you guys watch the Denver or N.E. games??? Did you watch the Bills game?? Turns out the pre-emptive boos were justified. What........they were supposed to give the little stinker a standing "O" ? Hers a unique concept for those who think its wrong to boo little Marky. Good players get cheers, lousy ones get booed. yes it is new, he got booed DURING INTRODUCTIONS because of internet message boards and talk radio making him the fall guy, and fans ignoring the horrific off season and blindly expecting 13-3 I've been to many NY sports games, and getting booed during intro's is rare, I can't even think of 1 time it happened sure you get weak applause, timid cheers, or mostly silence and a few snarky comments but booing ? rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I'm guessing in your comparative analysis, you've also factored out short fields, defensive, and special teams turnovers from all the other teams in the league that year, as well as the Jets teams in years prior and after, under Schotty. No did my post imply that? I am just going on memory of that season. In 2008 it was largely speculated that our QB pretty much ran whatever he wanted no matter what Schotty called. No matter what the debate or where any of us feel the probllem lies, the fact remains that barring a post season birth with a good showing by the offense, Schotty wil be gone before Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 yes it is new, he got booed DURING INTRODUCTIONS because of internet message boards and talk radio making him the fall guy, and fans ignoring the horrific off season and blindly expecting 13-3 I've been to many NY sports games, and getting booed during intro's is rare, I can't even think of 1 time it happened sure you get weak applause, timid cheers, or mostly silence and a few snarky comments but booing ? rare Not as rare as you decribe it. As a long time Jets season ticket holder I remember Richard Todd being booed during intros on more than one occasion. FWIW, MS validated the boos by his "post boo" performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 No, the burden of proof is on the people who want to take the rash action of dumping our 3rd year QB like its nothing with out exploring all options first. Rash? Not sure I agree. Last two years he put up terrible numbers and our team was still good enough to make it and lose two AFC championship games in spite of him. Now the team takes a step back and Sanchez is incapable of taking over and winning against a team with a winning record. Except Dallas whom if we played again would smoke us if you ask me. We have already wasted two championship caliber teams with this pretty boy Jag, Every player on our D is aging. We need to win NOW. Sanchez is NOT a championship QB right now. Yes he may be one day, but i would say the chances are about as good as Crusher coming down with self induced anorexia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Rash? Not sure I agree. Last two years he put up terrible numbers and our team was still good enough to make it and lose two AFC championship games in spite of him. Now the team takes a step back and Sanchez is incapable of taking over and winning against a team with a winning record. Except Dallas whom if we played again would smoke us if you ask me. We have already wasted two championship caliber teams with this pretty boy Jag, Every player on our D is aging. We need to win NOW. Sanchez is NOT a championship QB right now. Yes he may be one day, but i would say the chances are about as good as Crusher coming down with self induced anorexia. Well stated. Pretty boy Jag right on the money. Now stop making yourself vommit like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Spoiled Jets fans. So, you catch a few breaks, sign some beastly FA's, some good defensive coaching....get to two conference championship games two years in a row.....and all of a sudden expectations are through the roof! Funny, 'coulda sworn Pats fans get accused of this yearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well stated. Pretty boy Jag right on the money. Now stop making yourself vommit like that. Vomit? Me? I NEVER waste food. I carry Compazine lozengers for such emergencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Spoiled Jets fans. So, you catch a few breaks, sign some beastly FA's, some good defensive coaching....get to two conference championship games two years in a row.....and all of a sudden expectations are through the roof! Funny, 'coulda sworn Pats fans get accused of this yearly. yeah but Rex promised!! not nice to break promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Farve wasn't very impressive in early 2008, but he was great during the 5 game stretch before he got hurt. That said, Schotty's offense was obviously holding him back, even with changing it a little to fit what Farve wanted. I mean, he had two years when he never threw for 300 yards in a single game; his first year in GB in 1992 and his year with Schotty & the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Not as rare as you decribe it. As a long time Jets season ticket holder I remember Richard Todd being booed during intros on more than one occasion. FWIW, MS validated the boos by his "post boo" performance. todd succeeded namath, right ? thanks for making my point for me, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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