TNJet Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I say we draft the best RT available in the first rnd this year. 2nd draft the best tall wideout available, 3rd draft the best safety available...then one more safety later on lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I agree, but I'd have to look at a front 7 pass rusher, preferably a DE, but they usually go top 10 so.....RT may be the best value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Check out David Decosta...I think that his name. He's a real mauler. Personally I love Mark Barron. COurtnney Upshaw or Melvin Ingram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 shouldnt we draft a WR DE olineman every year? I am not ruling out the possibility of drafting 2 lineman in 2-3 3-4 round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Dewayne Allen TE from...Clemson maybe....full package at TE. Would serve as help from Hunter too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I think a good TE over a receive.....Michael Floyd is a beast though. Dewayne Allen addresses a lot though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I agree, but I'd have to look at a front 7 pass rusher, preferably a DE, but they usually go top 10 so.....RT may be the best value Why DE? We have talked about this before. Again we are loaded on the D-line. Who are you replacing? DeVito or Wilkerson? All around OLB with pass rushing skills is far more desirable right now, since right now we've just got an aging Bryan Thomas on one side and an aging Calvin Pace on the other... and no depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Dewayne Allen TE from...Clemson maybe....full package at TE. Would serve as help from Hunter too TE? Give me Eifert from ND. #uselessdrafttalk Fleener from Stanford seems like he could be a red some target too...I think he's got something like 17 Tds over the last couple years. As far as RT...Levi Adcock Ok.St would be a pretty sweet choice, those theres also guys like Matt Reynolds BYU....Josh Oglesby WIS....Some guy from Auburn... If the team drafts Adcock then they have to draft Monte Ball to play RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 He is a major reason why Sanchez has become gun shy. When you feel like you are under constant pressure you rush your throws and miss your reads. Some of the things Sanchez does puzzle me, but a lot of it I understand because I know what it is to have almost no time to throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Oddly enough OT is a position I'd like to see addressed via free agency, with OL depth drafted in the 5th-7th. OL tend to take a few years to hit thier stride, and a solid journeyman with an established resume seems like a better bet. Lest we forget Ducasse. Pass Rush, then Tight End, then Safety. Fill out the rest with OL, Wr, MLB. Running backs are a dime a dozen when your line is clicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 Please no TE, everyone seems to forget how good Cumberland was in the preseason. RT,WR,SS,FS,OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Melvin Ingram or Mark Barron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Why DE? We have talked about this before. Again we are loaded on the D-line. Who are you replacing? DeVito or Wilkerson? All around OLB with pass rushing skills is far more desirable right now, since right now we've just got an aging Bryan Thomas on one side and an aging Calvin Pace on the other... and no depth. loaded ? which guy does the opponent game plan for ? devito ? you can't be serious an OLB would be second choice, but a DE would be better for the simple fact you can get pressure with a 3 man rush. imagine that with revis. the jets could actually cover a TE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Calvin Pace and Bart Scott WILL be on the team next year. They have GUARANTEED deals The only person who is gone is Bryan Thomas....which are big shoes to fill IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Please no TE, everyone seems to forget how good Cumberland was in the preseason. RT,WR,SS,FS,OLB I hope he makes it back from what can be a long term debilitating injury. Plus, everyone knows how stellar the jets have been using high picks on TE's over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khesanh Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Here's who I like Ricky Wagner OT 6’8 320 Wisconsin Height: 6-6. Weight: 320. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2012): 2. 9/7/11: Wagner was absolutely dominant against UNLV. He opened up a lot of holes for running backs Montee Ball and James White, while preventing any pressure on quarterback Russell Wilson. Wagner faces better opponents in the next three games, but won't be faced with a hard test until he takes on Nebraska in October. 8/20/11: Ricky Wagner started 10 games for the Badgers at right tackle in 2010. This year, he'll move over to left tackle to replace Gabe Carimi. Wagner is an excellent run blocker. He is powerful and can drive defenders off the line of scrimmage. He'll need to develop his pass blocking, but Wagner looks like the next in line of quality Wisconsin left tackles. He was named an All-Big Ten honorable mention last season. Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU Height: 6-6. Weight: 325. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2011): 2. 9/7/11: Reynolds had a dominant performance against Ole Miss to start the season. Reynolds was blocking his man through the whistle and shut down every defensive end he faced. While bull rushes were completely ineffective against Reynolds, he also showed the quick feet to drop back and mirror defenders on speed rushes. Reynolds is very physical and consistently knocks his man to the ground. 8/20/11: Matt Reynolds has had a fantastic career at BYU. He almost entered the 2011 NFL Draft, but decided to return for his senior year. Reynolds has gotten into better shape by converting some fat into muscle. He's a tough run blocker that has been developing his pass blocking. The athletic Reynolds is well-coached. BYU offensive line coach Mark Weber developed Logan Makins at Fresno State and he speaks of Reynolds as being a comparable prospect to Mankins. A major drawback to Reynolds is he will be a 25 year-old rookie. However, Eagles rookie guard Danny Watkins is 27 and Falcons defensive tackle Peria Jerry was 24 as a rookie, and they both were first-rounders. Thus, the age issue shouldn't hurt Reynolds too much. Nate Potter, OT, Boise State Height: 6-6. Weight: 300. Projected 40 Time: 5.14. Projected Round (2012): 2. 9/7/11: Potter had a strong debut against Georgia. He constantly gave quarterback Kellen Moore ample time to throw the ball, and Potter was effective as run blocker. Even though he is not a heavy tackle, Potter showed the strength to anchor against bull rushes. He was slow to react to pick up a zone stunt on one play, but he showed the ability to recover. With his quality performance, Potter is proving that he can stay at left tackle in the NFL and won't have to move to the right side. 8/20/11: The Broncos standout Nate Potter enters the season as the pass protector for a prolific college quarterback in Kellen Moore. Potter has good feet and is quick. He is able to get to the second level of the defense and pull well to hit defenders on the run. For the NFL, it would be helpful for Potter to add some strength. That would allow him to keep a hold on defenders rather than them being able to disengage from his blocks, an issue he needs to improve on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khesanh Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Trumaine Johnson, FS, Montana Height: 6-2. Weight: 197. Projected 40 Time: 4.54. Projected Round (2012): 3-4. 8/26/11: The FCS standout Trumaine Johnson has an excellent combination of size and speed. Johnson became a starter as a true freshman and recorded four interceptions. In 2009, despite missing four games, Johnson had five interceptions with 12 passes broken up and 54 tackles on the season. Last year, he had four interceptions with seven passes defensed and 44 tackles. Johnson needs to have another standout season playing against weaker competition, but his physical tools and consistent production should make him a mid-round pick Eddie Whitley, FS, Virginia Tech Height: 6-1. Weight: 190. Projected 40 Time: 4.42. Projected Round (2012): 2. 8/26/11: Eddie Whitley had a productive junior season with 80 tackles, four tackles for a loss, six passes broken up and two interceptions. It was Whitley's first season as a starter. Whitley projects as a free safety in the NFL T.Y. Hilton, WR/KR, Florida International Height: 5-10. Weight: 183. Projected 40 Time: 4.41. Projected Round (2012): 3-4. 8/19/11: T.Y. Hilton plays at a smaller program, but Hilton has been a play-maker. Last year, he hauled in 59 receptions for 848 yards and five touchdowns. Hilton has been a dangerous weapon on kickoff returns. In his career, he has four kick return touchdowns and has averaged 27 yards per return. In 2009, he caught 57 passes for 632 yards with five scores. Hilton will need to run well at the combine, and the new kickoff changes in the NFL definitely has hurt his draft value Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M Height: 6-3. Weight: 215. Projected 40 Time: 4.49. Projected Round (2012): 1-2. 8/19/11: The Aggies got a fabulous junior season from wide receiver Jeff Fuller. He caught 76 passes for 1,066 yards and 12 touchdowns. Fuller is a big physical receiver that presents a large target and catching radius for his quarterbacks. He works the short and intermediate part of the field well. He looks like he would be a very good chain-mover and possession receiver in the NFL. Fuller would make a good Z (flanker) receiver quickly Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall Height: 6-5. Weight: 252. Projected 40 Time: 4.66. Projected Round (2012): 2. 8/24/11: Vinny Curry is an explosive athlete that had a dominant junior season. Curry was one of the best pass rushers in college football last year with 12 sacks. He also had 18 tackles for a loss and 94 tackles. At his size and weight, Curry should translate well as an edge rusher in a 3-4 defense. Curry is very fast with fabulous closing speed. He plays better in space. However, he does not have the size and strength to hold up against offensive linemen when lining up with his hand in the ground as a base end. Some teams were able to run right at him. He typically uses his speed to run around offensive linemen, and that opens up his gap on run downs. Thus, Curry would be a much better fit for a 3-4 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khesanh Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Braden Hansen*, G, BYU Height: 6-6. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.10. Projected Round (2012): 4-6. 9/7/11: Hansen and the BYU offensive line controlled the game against Ole Miss even though the 14-13 score didn't indicate it. The Cougars were able to pass the ball well and mix in some running. Hansen did a good job in pass protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Oddly enough OT is a position I'd like to see addressed via free agency, with OL depth drafted in the 5th-7th. OL tend to take a few years to hit thier stride, and a solid journeyman with an established resume seems like a better bet. Lest we forget Ducasse. +1 drafting a RT doesn't solve today's problem it solves a problem 3-5 years from now for draft picks I think they need an ILB (Scott is done) and a CB (Cro is probably gonna be cut after 2012) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Here's who I like Ricky Wagner OT 6’8 320 Wisconsin Height: 6-6. Weight: 320. Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU Height: 6-6. Weight: 325. Nate Potter, OT, Boise State Height: 6-6. Weight: 300. it's hard to judge these players without workouts but I don't think any of them get Drafted in round 2. more like mid rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 A far as FA RT....Levi Brown from Arizona, former Bad top 5 pick. The other would be the return of McKenzie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 +1 drafting a RT doesn't solve today's problem it solves a problem 3-5 years from now for draft picks I think they need an ILB (Scott is done) and a CB (Cro is probably gonna be cut after 2012) Tell that to Ferguson and Mangold in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 A far as FA RT....Levi Brown from Arizona, former Bad top 5 pick. The other would be the return of McKenzie. I agree Levi is the same as a FART. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangisGreen Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 RT, OLB, WR are biggest needs. DE is not a need as our D line has played well, especially recently. In a 3-4 Defense DE's primary job is sealing edge and stuffing the run. Pass rush generally comes from OLB in a 3-4, which we currently do not get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Tell that to Ferguson and Mangold in 2006. D'Brick was not great in 2006 and he was a top 4 draft pick. Mangold was solid, but he wasn't playing tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I agree Levi is the same as a FART. I actually repped this. He's nothing special and sometimes even sucks, but I'm hoping that just lowers the price of a starting T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I say we draft the best RT available in the first rnd this year. 2nd draft the best tall wideout available, 3rd draft the best safety available...then one more safety later on lol. I partly agree. We need to draft either a LG or a RT in the first round. If we dont take in the 2nd round the position that we didnt take in the first round between the LG/RT then we should be looking for a safety in the 2nd round. Our wideouts are not a problem. Play design is. We need to draft OLB in the 3rd and 4th rounds and then draft RB's and linemen (like a Center) throught the rest of our draft. Is there any big name safeties coming out this year? I dont really pay attention to college players until the offseason when I have nothing else better to do with my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 loaded ? which guy does the opponent game plan for ? devito ? you can't be serious an OLB would be second choice, but a DE would be better for the simple fact you can get pressure with a 3 man rush. imagine that with revis. the jets could actually cover a TE ! If Bruce Smith is available in the second half of the first round, the Jets should definitely pounce on him. The Jets have a variety of needs/wants, and between the end of the season and the draft Tannenbaum will try to fill most of them thru FA additions and trades like he does every year. What their target will be in the first round will shift with each of those moves. In other words, it's a wee bit early for draft talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 In other words, it's a wee bit early for draft talk. Early, late, whatever. If Dontari Poe runs 5.1 there's not a whole lot to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 D'Brick was not great in 2006 and he was a top 4 draft pick. Mangold was solid, but he wasn't playing tackle. True about Brick, yet the difference from 2005 to 2006 was light years when talking about the cut down on sacks. That is an obvious fact, and they can help immediately, just like any other solid player at any position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 I partly agree. We need to draft either a LG or a RT in the first round. If we dont take in the 2nd round the position that we didnt take in the first round between the LG/RT then we should be looking for a safety in the 2nd round. Our wideouts are not a problem. Play design is. We need to draft OLB in the 3rd and 4th rounds and then draft RB's and linemen (like a Center) throught the rest of our draft. Is there any big name safeties coming out this year? I dont really pay attention to college players until the offseason when I have nothing else better to do with my life. Hope youre not insinuating that Slauson is a bad LG? If any we need to draft RG to help for the soon to be retirement waiving of Moore. He's getting up there in age. Though LG and RG are Bi playing linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hope youre not insinuating that Slauson is a bad LG? If any we need to draft RG to help for the soon to be retirement waiving of Moore. He's getting up there in age. Though LG and RG are Bi playing linemen. ducasse will replace moore at RG. as for RT I agree it can be upgraded but probably not a 1st rounder. Left tackles go in rd1. not right tackles. Players like Tyron Smith and Gabe Carimi were drafted to be LT eventually. there are many names in the rd 2-4 area. for example: Marcel Jones, Nebraska; Barrett Jones, Alabama; and honestly Wayne Hunter hasn't been that bad lately. the team has bigger problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 ducasse will replace moore at RG. as for RT I agree it can be upgraded but probably not a 1st rounder. Left tackles go in rd1. not right tackles. Players like Tyron Smith and Gabe Carimi were drafted to be LT eventually. there are many names in the rd 2-4 area. for example: Marcel Jones, Nebraska; Barrett Jones, Alabama; and honestly Wayne Hunter hasn't been that bad lately. the team has bigger problems. Yeah. Their offensive coordinator is a ******* disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Yeah. Their offensive coordinator is a ******* disaster. +1...hopefully Tom Moore guides him through the playbook the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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