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Heard something a few days ago that said if the Jets knew that Payton was not still hurt and could play at his former level they would be a player to try to bring him in.

Then this morning on SC, they showed Payton throwing darts around the Duke football field. Said it was a 5 day camp with his former receivers and guess who was there? Yup, Tom Moore. The Jets know right now whether or not they have Manning, the rest of us will find out at the start of FA.

If we do sign manning we had better get a tackle out cuz Hunter will not keep Payton healthy. It will be Favre part deux, great first half with him taking some punishment with the second half of him throwing ducks until he cannot even get on the field due to the pain....

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No such thing as a rebuilding year. It's a PR term used to satiate a fan base when an organization concedes a winning season before it starts, OR has a season blow up in their faces.

NOBODY comes into a year intent on losing.

Don't agree.

Intent on losing and being more concerned with developing talent than expecting a championship are two very different things.

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2 first rounders is nothing if it means getting Brees.

Getting Brees makes sense, even with losing the 2 1st rounders. But, hopefully for you Jet fans, Goodell grows some balls and as part of the Bounty punishment strips them of the franchise tag (that's been rumored).

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You're so cute. Yes, I'll agree that the "unnamed source" route is fringe journalism. But, the Jets specialize in utilizing the "unnamed source" to disseminate information. Remember when Herm would use Cannizzaro as his personal press secretary?

What Mehta has said is accurate. Anyone claiming otherwise is delusional. The problem is the quantity of the annonymous sources. We don't know if it's 1 person or 20.

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On second read, I think they ARE talking about bringing in Manning as the shake-up.

It's saying they're wrestling with the idea of cutting off the head of the team as it's currently constructed. Much as most of us know Sanchez is crap, still not an easy decision to get rid of a top pick in his 4th season for a 35 year old, even if that 35 year old's father is probably better right now at the position then what we've got.

Definitely, talking about Manning. Because the reality is, as much as you dont want to admit it....the Jets are a really good Football team missing the most important piece. So they really dont need to "shake up" the organization. The foundation is very solid. Get a legit QB, fill a couple of holes...the Jets are contenders.

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Remember when Herm would use Cannizzaro as his personal press secretary?

Bringing up that name here should be the same as uttering the name Voldemort in Harry Potter, it should not be done...lol.

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What Mehta has said is accurate. Anyone claiming otherwise is delusional. The problem is the quantity of the annonymous sources. We don't know if it's 1 person or 20.

Unless you know who the unnamed source is, everything is conjecture at this point. There is no way to say 100% what is accurate at this point.

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Definitely, talking about Manning. Because the reality is, as much as you dont want to admit it....the Jets are a really good Football team missing the most important piece. So they really dont need to "shake up" the organization. The foundation is very solid. Get a legit QB, fill a couple of holes...the Jets are contenders.

The bolded is a bunch of horsesh*t. The Jets are Rex's brilliant defensive accuman and an uneven roster filled with whiny Jags. The hope is to have a HOF QB masked the glaring deficincies in the roster, something a young QB couldn't do in his 3rd year.

Make no mistake, if the Jets get Peyton, he'll be carrying a mediocre team. But that's what great players do.

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Unless you know who the unnamed source is, everything is conjecture at this point. There is no way to say 100% what is accurate at this point.

Of course it's 100% accurate, unless you think Mehta is willing to get fired and perhaps jeapordize is journalistic career by inventing a quote and lying about a source.

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The bolded is a bunch of horsesh*t. The Jets are Rex's brilliant defensive accuman and an uneven roster filled with whiny Jags. The hope is to have a HOF QB masked the glaring deficincies in the roster, something a young QB couldn't do in his 3rd year.

Make no mistake, if the Jets get Peyton, he'll be carrying a mediocre team. But that's what great players do.

No, its really not. The Jets are very talented Football team with one of the worst players in the league at the most important position in all of sports. They win despite him. Give them a QB like Peyton, they are instant contenders because they have a very solid core.

The only thing that stopped this team from being a 11-12 win team was Mark Sanchez. If thats a mediocre ball club, then I'm not sure what you are standards are...the SB winners won 9 games...2 years in a row.

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No, its really not. The Jets are very talented Football team with one of the worst players in the league at the most important position in all of sports. They win despite him. Give them a QB like Peyton, they are instant contenders because they have a very solid core.

The only thing that stopped this team from being a 11-12 win team was Mark Sanchez. If thats a mediocre ball club, then I'm not sure what you are standards are...the SB winners won 9 games...2 years in a row.

No, the Jets were a mediocre football team with a genius Defensive Coordinator masquerading as a HC and one of the worst players in the league at the most important position in all of sports.

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people say that but it really isn't true. You'd rather have the 8-8 season every single time. there's no joy in 4 more losses.

So, considering the Colts position of drafting Andrew Luck, you'd rather be the Jets, who are potentially faced with 2 or 3 more years of Sanchez than the Colts, who get another Franchise QB for a decade?

No guarantees on Luck, of course, but their future looks brighter than the Jets based on one sh*tty season at the right time.

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No, the Jets were a mediocre football team with a genius Defensive Coordinator masquerading as a HC and one of the worst players in the league at the most important position in all of sports.

Ha! Whatever you say buddy...

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So, considering the Colts position of drafting Andrew Luck, you'd rather be the Jets, who are potentially faced with 2 or 3 more years of Sanchez than the Colts, who get another Franchise QB for a decade?

No guarantees on Luck, of course, but their future looks brighter than the Jets based on one sh*tty season at the right time.

Really? Because of a player who's never taken a single down in the NFL?

lol - you guys are cracking me up these days.

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Ok, so perhaps this is a bit of a conspiracy theory, but part of me has to wonder if the Jets intentionally let Moore's contract from last year run out, knowing full well there's not much they'd be needing him to do right about now, and in the meantime he would be free to check on Manning with little to no issues generated by it due to their past relationship. They get whatever info they're looking for before anyone else, and if they like what they hear can even get Moore to try to help them convince Manning, and can then bring Moore back in time for camp, maybe even OTAs.

Of course the other possibility is they just figured now that Schitty is gone, they no longer need to bring in one coach after another to babysit their OC and hold his hand.

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Really? Because of a player who's never taken a single down in the NFL?

lol - you guys are cracking me up these days.

At least there is hope there that they're about to get themselves a franchise QB. We KNOW we don't have a franchise QB, along with about 20-25 other teams.

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Really? Because of a player who's never taken a single down in the NFL?

lol - you guys are cracking me up these days.

The funny thing about it is I'm getting so sick of hearing the endless sucking off of Luck, who is just this year's newest version of "best player at his position in over a decade!", which we hear about at least one player every single draft, that at this point I just hope he's the most monumental bust in NFL history.

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It's good that you have faith in the crappy roster Tanny has put together.

Hahaha. Crappy roster. Whatever you say buddy. Meanwhile the Knicks are contenders. lmfao. You're on fire these days.

At least there is hope there that they're about to get themselves a franchise QB. We KNOW we don't have a franchise QB.

Hope is an amazing thing.

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I'm just not sold that the Jets are the most appealing destination for Manning. Why would he want to come play for a cold-weather team with an imploding locker room.

Both good points. Can't do much about the cold weather but I imagine the Jets will be more than willing to get rid of anyone Peyton doesn't like outside of a handful of guys.

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Hahaha. Crappy roster. Whatever you say buddy. Meanwhile the Knicks are contenders. lmfao. You're on fire these days.

Hope is an amazing thing.

I agree that this roster is decent. We've all seen our share of Jets teams that were actually filled with crap talent and this isn't it. We lack playmakers on offense, but that didn't stop Manning from making Blair White and Jacob Tamme actually look good.

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Hahaha. Crappy roster. Whatever you say buddy. Meanwhile the Knicks are contenders. lmfao. You're on fire these days.

Hope is an amazing thing.

Well, the Knicks are a playoff seed, something the Jets weren't this year.

And, Peyton makes the Jets better without question because his greatness can carry a mediocre squad like the Jets have.

It's remarkable how you extoll the virtues of this Jets roster.

No speed at WR

Oline can't pass or run block

TEs can't block

No speed at LB

No pass rush

Crappy Punter

Crappy Kicker

Yeah, besides all that the Jets are "a very talented football team."

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We lack playmakers on offense, but that didn't stop Manning from making Blair White and Jacob Tamme actually look good.

This.

If we sign Peyton we can shift our entire focus towards rebuilding the defense. Our personnel isn't good enough as it stands primarily because of Sanchez.

Put Peyton in there, give Rex a new safety and a couple of new young linebackers, and suddenly we look like a 12-4 team.

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I agree that this roster is decent. We've all seen our share of Jets teams that were actually filled with crap talent and this isn't it. We lack playmakers on offense, but that didn't stop Manning from making Blair White and Jacob Tamme actually look good.

Again, Peyton makes the Jets better. That's without question. The issue between me and JiF is that he thinks this is a very talented roster which defies reality. Being "decent" is not being "very talented."

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It's good that you have faith in the crappy roster Tanny has put together.

It's certainly not all fantastic, but it's not nearly as bad as you're trying to paint it either. The problem with the Jets roster is that when you look player by player, it's really all or nothing. There are some really top notch players on this roster that are amongst the best in the league at their positions, and a number of other really high quality starters, but the problem is the starters at those "other positions", which outside of Slauson at LG, is really awful. The Jets have some of the very worst starters in the entire league at both safety positions, RT, and of course most importantly of all, QB. Three of those positions teams can find a respectable starter with a second or third day pick, or a low dollar FA, but in the long run they'll only make so much of a difference. A team can be the most talented in the league at all but one position, but it won't matter if the exception is QB.

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