villain_the_foe Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Cromartie was completely right about the Jets not needing Tebow. Why did we extend Sanchez, why are we paying Sanchez that type of money simply to sit him a few plays in order to give Tebow some packaged plays? I like Sanchez, but I've also been one of the first people to say that Sanchez needs to have competition for the starting job. Tebow just does not fit the bill for that competition. Tebow cannot throw the football with consistent accuracy and this was something that many Jet fans got on Sanchez about, yet Sanchez is MUCH better at it than Tebow as well as other mechanics a QB should possess. WTF was the point of getting this guy then? He's only going to take away snaps from Sanchez WITHOUT actually competing for the Job. This isnt Tebow's job to win, its Sanchez job to lose. Thats always been the reason why we said to get a QB who can compete. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. We didnt get a value QB, we got a one dimensional QB who's going to create a stir with Jet fans as soon as Sanchez throws a Pick 6. I've said this before and I said it again, no matter what anyone says about Sanchez, one thing that cannot be denied is that the New York Jets does not know how to develop a QB. Jason Campbell should have been the QB signed a week ago. Instead he's picked up by this bears. This is f'ing pathetic and im getting tired of these stupid moves. The risk here completely outweighs the reward, on top of the fact that 5 million has to be paid back to Denver for some type of bonus money reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Rex says no.. Sanchez sucks, need ti get him off the field as much as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Smith and Kurley took away snaps from Sanchez....did the sky fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 sparano ground and pound sells tickets wakes up sanchez and makes him uncomfortable gets back page headlines and yes, helps you win football games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 going to buy stock in 5 Hour Energy as Jet fans will need lots of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The risk here completely outweighs the reward, on top of the fact that 5 million has to be paid back to Denver for some type of bonus money reason. Please explain the risk. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I guess everyone forgot what Tebow did to the Jets' stout defense last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Smith and Kurley took away snaps from Sanchez....did the sky fall? Those guys didnt come with hype or followers, both knew their role and knew they had no chance to become a starting QB. Everything about Tebow is the opposite. Also the jets didn't trade 2 picks plus 5mill for those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Please explain the risk. Thanks, The risk is having a QB who isnt a QB which I believe is true with Tebow. He's not a QB. Another risk is having the fans persuade the organization to put in Tebow if Sanchez struggles. This isnt how you deal with your QB situation. Another risk is that outside of packaged plays there's no value that tebow brings to the team. So thats a waste of a 4th and 6th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I was joking when I said it earlier, but maybe it's true... When our OL failed this year, Sanchez was an incomplete or sack 90% of the time. Tebow's 'heroics' came out of similar scrambles, no? If our crappy OL was better than last years' Bronco OL, mabye the FO thinks that with Tebow a greater percentage of broken plays will execute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 I guess everyone forgot what Tebow did to the Jets' stout defense last season. No he didnt, the Jets defense shut Tebow down for the entire game. One play a LB as well as Smith takes the wrong angle and all of a sudden "tebow did it to the jets". The Jets completely shut that offense down. The problem was our offense couldnt score points and take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 They're two completely different position players. So long as there is distinct focus on the Sanchez maturation process - I will be able to see this as a good option to pick up additional yards and points - after I'm over being embarrassed about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Smith and Kurley took away snaps from Sanchez....did the sky fall? No, because Kerley and Smith played other roles on this team like Punt returner, WR etc. Tebow was acquired for draft picks. They're going to have to provide playing time for him and its going to be more than the 1 or 2 Wildcat plays every couple of games like Smith and Kerley did. Not the same situation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 No he didnt, the Jets defense shut Tebow down for the entire game. One play a LB as well as Smith takes the wrong angle and all of a sudden "tebow did it to the jets". The Jets completely shut that offense down. The problem was our offense couldnt score points and take advantage. But tebow has a high 4th qtr qb rating!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The risk is that Tebow sucks much worse than Sanchez, yet the fans will be chanting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The risk is having a QB who isnt a QB which I believe is true with Tebow. He's not a QB. Another risk is having the fans persuade the organization to put in Tebow if Sanchez struggles. This isnt how you deal with your QB situation. Another risk is that outside of packaged plays there's no value that tebow brings to the team. So thats a waste of a 4th and 6th round pick. How's that a risk? He isn't coming in to be our new QB. Fans calling for Tebow, okay thats a risk I'll give you that. Those packaged plays are going to be good when we need TDs or a big play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 sparano ground and pound sells tickets wakes up sanchez and makes him uncomfortable gets back page headlines and yes, helps you win football games Sells tickets? If this is the case then no wonder why this organization makes stupid moves, the fans will pay for it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 No he didnt, the Jets defense shut Tebow down for the entire game. One play a LB as well as Smith takes the wrong angle and all of a sudden "tebow did it to the jets". The Jets completely shut that offense down. The problem was our offense couldnt score points and take advantage. He engineered a game winning drive. It wasn't just "one play" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 How's that a risk? He isn't coming in to be our new QB. Fans calling for Tebow, okay thats a risk I'll give you that. Those packaged plays are going to be good when we need TDs or a big play. Its a risk because it serves nothing we actually need. This isnt Miami. It undermines Sanchez without actually getting someone who can produce if Sanchez in fact doesnt work out. This is nothing more than Tebowsanity, and I can present other risk in detail but it wont matter because one can say "How is that a risk". Cool. Tebow isnt a QB and he's terrible. I dont want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Tebow isnt a QB and he's terrible. I dont want him. it's like signing a better version of Brad Smith. Maybe that will help you come to grips with why it's a _GOOD_ move. I also think it lights a fire under Sanchez, there's no other use of a 4th rd pick that does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The risk is having a QB who isnt a QB which I believe is true with Tebow. He's not a QB. Another risk is having the fans persuade the organization to put in Tebow if Sanchez struggles. This isnt how you deal with your QB situation. Another risk is that outside of packaged plays there's no value that tebow brings to the team. So thats a waste of a 4th and 6th round pick. Not a single one of those are a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 He engineered a game winning drive. It wasn't just "one play" Im sorry, he engineered a game winning drive. He sucked everywhere else for the majority of the time for the majority of games. Statements like this is why the football world doesnt take Jet fans seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Klown Klass is officially in session. It is AKA the Jets Front Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 He simply cannot pass. And he cannot run a Wildcat like a Brad Smith. He is too big and hardly elusive. Besides, how do you pay a guy like this to run a wildcat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 he cannot run a Wildcat like a Brad Smith. He is too big and hardly elusive. he's harder to tackle and a better thrower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Not a single one of those are a risk. Of course trading for a QB who isnt a QB isnt a risk to JiF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 he's harder to tackle and a better thrower. He is just bigger. Smith was not small, but he could also break a play and take it to the house. A lot of Tebows yardage comes when the defense is spread out and he cannot find a receiver. I think lineman and LBs will make short work of him. And by the way, are you sure he is a better thrower? The real question is: why do we need Tebow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 He engineered a game winning drive. It wasn't just "one play" He not only engineered the 95 yard game winning drive,but he took a 1-5 Denver team to the playoffs and a first round win against Pitt. I dont know how he does it but he does win. He was well worth a 4th round daft pick if they don't owe Denver 5 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 He produced when it mattered against the Jet defense. I'm not saying he's an amazing QB, I realize he's a lot worse than Sanchez in that regard. But what we're trading for on the field is a player to run the wildcat, confuse defenses, score in the Redzone, and help our running game. That's why we're trading for Tebow (obviously ticket sales and headlines play a part in it). Not because he's a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 If people are frustrated with Mark Sanchez throwing the ball, it will be NOTHING compared to how they react to Tebow's first 7 for 14, 84 yard game, especially if the Jets lose. What I don't get is why the Jets create controversy around their own so-called franchise QB. You go out of your way to say you're still behind Mark Sanchez, you give him a contract extension to make it look good, and then you go out and (try to) trade for a guy who (certain) people will be screaming to have the starting job after Sanchez throws his first incomplete pass. It'll be a season long theme/quarterback controversy that just doesn't need to be there. It could start as early as the preseason, if Sanchez has a lousy first half and Tebow lights up some second string defense in the 3rd & 4th quarters. I mean, whatever you think about Sanchez and/or Tebow, why do the Jets bring this kind of adversity on themselves? I mean, every football franchise makes questionable moves, but really, they have NO idea what they're doing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 The real question is: why do we need Tebow? cause whether you think Brad Smith is better or not, he's gone. They never replaced that production. This also lights a fire under Sanchez. It's a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 What I don't get is why the Jets create controversy around their own so-called franchise QB. it's a challenge that mark needs to answer. If he can't beat out Tebow he can't really be considered a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 He not only engineered the 95 yard game winning drive,but he took a 1-5 Denver team to the playoffs and a first round win against Pitt. I dont know how he does it but he does win. He was well worth a 4th round daft pick if they don't owe Denver 5 mil. Exactly I really don't understand why people are saying Tebow is so bad. Also, am I the only who wonders why 5 million dollars is stopping the trade from happening? If it's not affecting the cap whats the hold up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I've started to come around on Tebow. He looks awful throwing the ball but hey, results are results. His teams win more often than not when he starts. I don't know if you can win a SB with Tebow as your QB, but were you gonna win one with Sanchez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 cause whether you think Brad Smith is better or not, he's gone. They never replaced that production. This also lights a fire under Sanchez. It's a win win. I hope you are right. I don't think Sanchez can have a fire lit under him. I think he will mope when things look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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