T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Cancerio Holmes? Santonio Carcinoma? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/16/santonio-holmes-two-quarterback-systems-cant-work-in-the-nfl/ If the Jets are alternating between Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow at quarterback this season, their No. 1 receiver thinks that’s a recipe for failure. Santonio Holmes, who was an unhappy camper with Sanchez last season, suggested in an interview on NFL Network that he won’t be happy this season if he’s going back and forth between catching passes from Sanchez and catching passes from Tebow. Asked by Andrew Siciliano whether a two-quarterback system can work in the NFL, Holmes answered, “No.” “I don’t think so,” Holmes continued. “Because you have to allow one quarterback to get in the rhythm of a game. And it starts from the preparation of practice. Holmes said Sanchez needs to know he’s the man, and it would be bad for Sanchez’s development as a player to put him in a position where he’s looking over his shoulder and wondering whether he’s going to get benched in favor of Tebow if he throws an interception. “Making mistakes early in the game to finishing the game at the end, you don’t change a guy out just because he has a few mistakes early in a game,” Holmes said. “So I think coming into the season we have a lot to expect from Sanchez.” Holmes was benched in the final game of the 2011 season when he complained bitterly about the offense, but he suggested in the interview today that if anything, he showed commendable patience in holding his tongue until the end of last season. Holmes indicated that his frustrations had been mounting all year, and that he refrained from complaining early in the season even though he had just 22 catches in the Jets’ seven games before their bye week. “I didn’t say anything about last season until Week 17,” Holmes said. “It hurt to play seven games and only have 20 catches.” This year, Holmes said, he and Sanchez have worked well together in the offseason, and he expects to get more than three catches a game. But if it doesn’t work that way, it may be tough to keep Holmes happy. No matter who’s playing quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Give it a rest, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I watched. I wish he was half as consistent with his effort on the field as he is with his BS off of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Sounds like he's firmly behind Sanchez as his QB. What's the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Give it a rest, man. I was being semi-facetious (if fully annoying) with the cancer references. I actually agree with him on his two-QB points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Sounds like he's firmly behind Sanchez as his QB. What's the issue? Because he knows he's about to play in a two-QB offense and yet he's saying he doesn't think it can work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hate to point out the obvious but clearly Santonio Holmes as a #1 receiver is another thing that can't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 holy drama queen tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I was being semi-facetious (if fully annoying) with the cancer references. I actually agree with him on his two-QB points. Why you devious bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Because he knows he's about to play in a two-QB offense and yet he's saying he doesn't think it can work. Yeah? Anyone else have doubts about a two-QB system? I'm not too sure the Jets are going to be running such a system, and I think Santonio throwing his support behind Sanchez is the politically correct thing to do. Don't see the issue outside of, "I don't like Santonio and he said something, so it must be bad." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Greg Mcelroy 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Greg Mcelroy 2013 Greg McElroy is no Brett Ratliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'm not too sure the Jets are going to be running such a system, Despite the HC and OC saying that they're giving Tebow snaps at QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Despite the HC and OC saying that they're giving Tebow snaps at QB? They gave Jeremy Kerley snaps at QB last year. Running the wildcat isn't exactly platooning the position. If they do opt to run an actual two-QB system, I think Santonio has a point. Don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 They gave Jeremy Kerley snaps at QB last year. Running the wildcat isn't exactly platooning the position. If they do opt to run an actual two-QB system, I think Santonio has a point. Don't you? 100%. Nobody thinks the two-QB system works. But, when you're a career malcontent who spent the majority of last season sulking and underperforming, it's probably wise not to point at the offense you're about to run and say that it will fail. I commend him for his honesty, but if Holmes had any intention of coming in and proving that he's learned anything from last season, he's doing an awful job expressing that. That he thinks people are upset with him solely for the "one bad day" that was the Dolphins debacle is as frightening as it is revealing. If we had some flickering hope that Rex was getting through to Holmes behind the scenes, I think these comments pretty much snuff those hopes out. As for the offense, this happy talk from Rex that Tebow isn't here to take snaps away from Mark is high comedy. The guy is a QB, he's always been a QB, and he's said that he's always gonna be a QB. If the Jets wanted a 6'4", 250 lb. slow, white HB, they could have traded for Peyton Hillis. He's as much a TE/HB/Hback as the rugby player is at this point, probably less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Sounds like he's firmly behind Sanchez as his QB. What's the issue? Football fans have turned into women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 100%. Nobody thinks the two-QB system works. But, when you're a career malcontent who spent the majority of last season sulking and underperforming, it's probably wise not to point at the offense you're about to run and say that it will fail. I commend him for his honesty, but if Holmes had any intention of coming in and proving that he's learned anything from last season, he's doing an awful job expressing that. That he thinks people are upset with him solely for the "one bad day" that was the Dolphins debacle is as frightening as it is revealing. If we had some flickering hope that Rex was getting through to Holmes behind the scenes, I think these comments pretty much snuff those hopes out. As for the offense, this happy talk from Rex that Tebow isn't here to take snaps away from Mark is high comedy. The guy is a QB, he's always been a QB, and he's said that he's always gonna be a QB. If the Jets wanted a 6'4", 250 lb. slow, white HB, they could have traded for Peyton Hillis. He's as much a TE/HB/Hback as the rugby player is at this point, probably less so. So basically, there was no way Santonio could win here. I thought the big problem last year was undermining the QB. In these quotes, he seems to be backing up Mark rather strongly. As far as I can tell, that's a good thing. If he embraced this so-called two-QB system, he'd once again be disrespecting Sanchez. No? What was he supposed to say? We'll see how this QB mess they bought into plays out. I think it's always been all about Sanchez. If he plays well enough, we won't see much of Tebow at QB at all. If he plays poorly, we'll get extended looks from Tebow. Holmes seems to be publicly rooting for the former. I am, too. I just don't see the problem. Meanwhile, I think Timmy will make a mean upman on the punt team. I'm sure he was great there in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 santonio the sucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 He's 100% right. More unnecessary Holmes hate by our resident hate monger. Sounds like Holmes is behind and Sanchez. I am too and so should you. All aboard!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 So basically, there was no way Santonio could win here. I thought the big problem last year was undermining the QB. In these quotes, he seems to be backing up Mark rather strongly. As far as I can tell, that's a good thing. If he embraced this so-called two-QB system, he'd once again be disrespecting Sanchez. No? What was he supposed to say? Holmes: "Haha. Well, we'll see how it plays out. Coach Sparano obviously had a lot of success running the Wildcat in Miami, so it'll be exciting to see what he comes up with here. Mark and Tim are both talented guys, so it'll be up to the coaches to get the best out of both of them, and I know they will. I'm just gonna do my best to be ready whenever my number is called." I swear, the Jets should totally hire me to do their PR. We'll see how this QB mess they bought into plays out. I think it's always been all about Sanchez. If he plays well enough, we won't see much of Tebow at QB at all. If he plays poorly, we'll get extended looks from Tebow. Holmes seems to be publicly rooting for the former. I am, too. I just don't see the problem. Meanwhile, I think Timmy will make a mean upman on the punt team. I'm sure he was great there in high school. The above defines the season, IMO. Not the punt team thing, but the other thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Sounds like Holmes is behind and Sanchez. I am too and so should you. Funny, I always figured you for a power-bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Funny, I always figured you for a power-bottom. You're 0-gay in 3 secs flat. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I just watched the interview and thought Holmes did very well. They played the LT Clip saying Holmes would complain if he had only 22 catches at the bye this year. Holmes said he kept his mouth shut until week 17 last year. Holmes will not be a problem for the Jets this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Sanchez will put everything to rest by november, when he's on his way to his first pro bowl selection and his 3rd trip to the playoffs in 4 years. Holmes will have over 1100 yards receiving and 80 catches. Its all good in gang green land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Is anyone watching him on NFL Network right now? I ****ing <3 this guy. He a ****ing true Jet right to the core. Throwing jabs at the division in good fun saying the Pats wont get better on D, the Dolphags cant replace Marshall, the Bills wont pay off. ****ing classic. And his question for the season for the Jets was, "will Sanchez and Holmes get it together in 2012". And said, absolutely. Talked about their relationship, the practice, being better leaders. He's 100% aware of what happened last season and it needs to change. He just wants the damn ball. Sounds like an amazing teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 You're 0-gay in 3 secs flat. Disgusting. Pretty sure the Crown of Gay is firmly entrenched upon your head for the duration after the Gronk-porn thread you posted, Mary. Holmes is like a couch you find out on the curb on garbage day. It looks fine and it seems like it's in good shape so you take it home and brag to all your boys about the sweet free couch you scored. Then, because your pride demands it, you try to live in denial of the fact that the couch makes your entire apartment smell like cat piss. This analogy also works when describing the chicks you meet on Yahoo Personals, Steve. No offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 He a ****ing true Jet right to the core. Ne'er a truer word was spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Pretty sure the Crown of Gay is firmly entrenched upon your head for the duration after the Gronk-porn thread you posted, Mary. Holmes is like a couch you find out on the curb on garbage day. It looks fine and it seems like it's in good shape so you take it home and brag to all your boys about the sweet free couch you scored. Then, because your pride demands it, you try to live in denial of the fact that the couch makes your entire apartment smell like cat piss. This analogy also works when describing the chicks you meet on Yahoo Personals, Steve. No offense. I've never in my life took anything out of someone's garbage. Especially not a couch or a bed or anything like that. You're absolutely disgusting. Yahoo has Personals? I'll give it a shot. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 The ****ing season can't get here soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Ne'er a truer word was spoken. U. R. A. Hate. Monger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I just watched the interview and thought Holmes did very well. They played the LT Clip saying Holmes would complain if he had only 22 catches at the bye this year. Holmes said he kept his mouth shut until week 17 last year. Holmes will not be a problem for the Jets this year. Anyone that watched that episode would feel the same way, except T0mGayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Anyone that watched that episode would feel the same way, except T0mGayne. Ask Max what "Herm Edwards will win the SB as HC of the NYJ" means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Ask Max what "Herm Edwards will win the SB as HC of the NYJ" means. My guess would be - the same thing the same thing he's said about every Jets HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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