Will Rex Ryan ever get himself a franchise QB?

[Jetsfan80]

Throughout his career, which has included a SB victory as DL coach in Baltimore, Rex has never had an ideal situation at QB. If he did, he'd probably have more rings under his belt, especially when he elevated to Defensive Coordinator.

However, that one SB victory was with Trent Dilfer, and it only occurred because of a monumental effort by the league's top defense.

Baltimore's less than illustrious starting QB's after Dilfer? Not much better:

2001: Elvis Grbac & Randall Cunningham

2002: Jeff Blake & Chris Redman

2003-05: Anthony Wright & Kyle Boller

Finally, a legit QB in the form of Steve McNair arrived in 2006, and unsurprisingly, the Ravens won a franchise record 13 games.

But alas, McNair was in the twilight years of his career and only started 6 games in 2007 due to injuries. Boller made his last play for the starting job before Troy Smith took over.

In Rex's final year as DC in Baltimore, the Ravens spent the 18th overall pick on Joe Flacco. This was perhaps Rex's best shot at having a franchise QB with which to pair with his defense, though the jury remains out on whether Flacco can ever be elite, or if he his ceiling is somewhere around the 2nd-3rd tier of NFL QB's.

Of course, we all know what happened when Rex arrived in New York. Perhaps if he had walked into a disaster zone of a team and acquired Matt Stafford, he'd have his 2nd ring......or more. Or maybe he'd have one if, instead of trading up for Sanchez, Rex took a trip down to Mississippi and begged Favre to come back to play for the Jets another year instead of going to Minnesota (something Rex himself admitted he would have done had they not gotten Sanchez).

The Jets perhaps had a chance at acquiring Peyton Manning this past offseason, but instead opted to extend Sanchez and trade for Tim Tebow, band-aid solutions for a team in desperate need for better QB play.

The problem for Rex has perhaps always been this: His defense is too good. What a franchise usually needs to happen to attain a franchise QB is to have such a terrible season that trading up is not even necessary to get the best one in that year's draft. The Colts had this luxury by earning the # 1 pick to acquire Andrew Luck, a serendipitous moment for a franchise that had had the pleasure of having Peyton Manning under center for so many years.

No matter how bad things might get, it seems that no Rex Ryan defense will EVER allow the Jets or any team he coaches to completely bottom out like this. The absolute floor for the 2012 Jets, even with a terrible offense, is perhaps 5-6 wins, which puts the Jets in top 10-12 territory but certainly not in range for the a top pick.

Not to mention, with the new CBA, it would be almost impossible to trade up to the # 1 slot without giving up a king's ransom. Note how much the Redskins had to deliver to St. Louis in order to earn the # 2 pick. And even this was only possible because the Rams already HAD their franchise guy in Sam Bradford. Teams with the top picks hold all the cards, and the ease with which the Jets moved up from 17 to 5 in 2009 would not have happened under the current CBA.

It's become clear that if via the draft OR free agency Rex does fall into a top-flight QB, or even a very good one who stays for a long time, he will win championships. Not just one but several. But that day seems unlikely to happen. For now, the most important question for the future of the Jets' franchise is this: Who will be the starting QB in Week 1, 2013?

[Lil Bit Special]

Getting a top pick doesnt guarantee you will get a franchise QB.

Jets dont need a franchise QB. They need a legitimate running game that takes the pressure off the QB and allows him to perform when needed. I prefer they find RB's who are top-notch and linemen who know how to block. Find WR's and TE's who run good patterns and can catch the ball. We have what we need at QB. Sanchize is the perfect QB for a Rexy Defense, but we just cant seem to get the playcalling or the personnel to best utilize the sanchize. maybe we have that with teblow... we'll see Sunday.

[Jetsfan80]

Sanchize is the perfect QB for a Rexy Defense

LOL no he's not. We need a QB who isn't turnover-prone, and ESPECIALLY one who doesn't throw pick-sixes. Sanchez is the complete OPPOSITE of what Rex needs. He'd be 10 times better off with an accurate game manager like a Matt Hasselbeck.

[Integrity28]

I'm waiting for a matured top pick, someone like David Carr, to find their way onto our roster, come into form and lead us to the promised land. Sort of like Vinny T. Some guys just don't "get it" until they are like 28-30 years old.

Some never do. Others get it from day one. No formula for it really, but I do think that is where the Jets next respectable QB will come from. Journeyman turns reliable captain type of story.

[Jetsfan80]

Getting a top pick doesnt guarantee you will get a franchise QB.

Jets dont need a franchise QB. They need a legitimate running game that takes the pressure off the QB and allows him to perform when needed. I prefer they find RB's who are top-notch and linemen who know how to block. Find WR's and TE's who run good patterns and can catch the ball. We have what we need at QB. Sanchize is the perfect QB for a Rexy Defense, but we just cant seem to get the playcalling or the personnel to best utilize the sanchize. maybe we have that with teblow... we'll see Sunday.

And to summarize the above: "We don't need a QB, we just need really good players at all other 10 spots on the field, plus superior coaching." Yeah, ok.

[Knix Tix]

I think we'll know more about Mark being a franchise guy midway thru this season, if this o-line plays to theiir potential. So far I'm giving mark a grade of "I" for incomplete.

[SoFlaJets]

Have any of you guys thought, (like I do) that perhaps every offense that has to practice against the Rex Ryan defenses start out at a disadvantage and by having to face guys like Revis and Cro that the passing game is never really given a chance to get into any kind of rhythm, first at the practices and that it spills over into the games on Sunday?

[Jetsfan80]

Have any of you guys thought, (like I do) that perhaps every offense that has to practice against the Rex Ryan defenses start out at a disadvantage and by having to face guys like Revis and Cro that the passing game is never really given a chance to get into any kind of rhythm, first at the practices and that it spills over into the games on Sunday?

I'd say practicing against a top-flight defense should be an advantage. If you can complete a pass against it, you can complete a pass against anyone.

[Pac]

seasons already over?

[Lil Bit Special]

LOL no he's not. We need a QB who isn't turnover-prone, and ESPECIALLY one who doesn't throw pick-sixes. Sanchez is the complete OPPOSITE of what Rex needs. He'd be 10 times better off with an accurate game manager like a Matt Hasselbeck.

No. He is. He's perfect. Stop being blind to how awesome Sanchize is when he has no pressure. Take the pressure off of him to be the man, and he will be the man!

[Lil Bit Special]

And to summarize the above: "We don't need a QB, we just need really good players at all other 10 spots on the field, plus superior coaching." Yeah, ok.

We're not going to win sh*t without a good running game no matter who is under center.

We're not going to win sh*t without an offensive line that cant block.

We're not going to win with WR's and TE's who cant run routes or get open.

We're not going to win with a blind coaching staff who cant make adjustments as the game goes on.

Everyone loves to blame Sanchize for all the problems. He isnt the only problem. We have no running game. That puts pressure on him to perform. he cant because he's got happy feet because our line cant block, our receivers cant get open, and the plays were designed like sh*t.

So yeah, no matter what QB you put under center, outside of a hall of famer, we're toast. And there aint no hall of famers coming and knocking down our doors

[THE ILK]

seasons already over?

No but the circus act is wearing thin.

[Lil Bit Special]

Have any of you guys thought, (like I do) that perhaps every offense that has to practice against the Rex Ryan defenses start out at a disadvantage and by having to face guys like Revis and Cro that the passing game is never really given a chance to get into any kind of rhythm, first at the practices and that it spills over into the games on Sunday?

No. I think they just suck.

[Lil Bit Special]

seasons already over?

Yep. Time to start planning for next year when we can choose from great FA Qb;s like Rex Grossman, Bruce Gradkowski, Tavaris Jackson!!!

[Bleedin Green]

Throughout his career, which has included a SB victory as DL coach in Baltimore, Rex has never had an ideal situation at QB. If he did, he'd probably have more rings under his belt, especially when he elevated to Defensive Coordinator.

However, that one SB victory was with Trent Dilfer, and it only occurred because of a monumental effort by the league's top defense.

Baltimore's less than illustrious starting QB's after Dilfer? Not much better:

2001: Elvis Grbac & Randall Cunningham

2002: Jeff Blake & Chris Redman

2003-05: Anthony Wright & Kyle Boller

Finally, a legit QB in the form of Steve McNair arrived in 2006, and unsurprisingly, the Ravens won a franchise record 13 games.

But alas, McNair was in the twilight years of his career and only started 6 games in 2007 due to injuries. Boller made his last play for the starting job before Troy Smith took over.

In Rex's final year as DC in Baltimore, the Ravens spent the 18th overall pick on Joe Flacco. This was perhaps Rex's best shot at having a franchise QB with which to pair with his defense, though the jury remains out on whether Flacco can ever be elite, or if he his ceiling is somewhere around the 2nd-3rd tier of NFL QB's.

Of course, we all know what happened when Rex arrived in New York. Perhaps if he had walked into a disaster zone of a team and acquired Matt Stafford, he'd have his 2nd ring......or more. Or maybe he'd have one if, instead of trading up for Sanchez, Rex took a trip down to Mississippi and begged Favre to come back to play for the Jets another year instead of going to Minnesota (something Rex himself admitted he would have done had they not gotten Sanchez).

The Jets perhaps had a chance at acquiring Peyton Manning this past offseason, but instead opted to extend Sanchez and trade for Tim Tebow, band-aid solutions for a team in desperate need for better QB play.

The problem for Rex has perhaps always been this: His defense is too good. What a franchise usually needs to happen to attain a franchise QB is to have such a terrible season that trading up is not even necessary to get the best one in that year's draft. The Colts had this luxury by earning the # 1 pick to acquire Andrew Luck, a serendipitous moment for a franchise that had had the pleasure of having Peyton Manning under center for so many years.

No matter how bad things might get, it seems that no Rex Ryan defense will EVER allow the Jets or any team he coaches to completely bottom out like this. The absolute floor for the 2012 Jets, even with a terrible offense, is perhaps 5-6 wins, which puts the Jets in top 10-12 territory but certainly not in range for the a top pick.

Not to mention, with the new CBA, it would be almost impossible to trade up to the # 1 slot without giving up a king's ransom. Note how much the Redskins had to deliver to St. Louis in order to earn the # 2 pick. And even this was only possible because the Rams already HAD their franchise guy in Sam Bradford. Teams with the top picks hold all the cards, and the ease with which the Jets moved up from 17 to 5 in 2009 would not have happened under the current CBA.

It's become clear that if via the draft OR free agency Rex does fall into a top-flight QB, or even a very good one who stays for a long time, he will win championships. Not just one but several. But that day seems unlikely to happen. For now, the most important question for the future of the Jets' franchise is this: Who will be the starting QB in Week 1, 2013?

tl;dr

how's it feel bitch?

[Jetsfan80]

We're not going to win sh*t without a good running game no matter who is under center.

We're not going to win sh*t without an offensive line that cant block.

We're not going to win with WR's and TE's who cant run routes or get open.

We're not going to win with a blind coaching staff who cant make adjustments as the game goes on.

1. The teams in the Super Bowl this past season had awful running games. Yes, in OUR SCHEME, and with OUR QB, we need a running game to succeed. But by and large the trend of the league is that you can get by with even the worst running game as long as you're solid at QB.

2. Our offensive line is actually still pretty solid. If Austin Howard is the answer at RT you're talking about a top-10 unit, I'd say. Sanchez only faced an average amount of pressure last season compared to the rest of the league, and many of the sacks he incurred were by holding onto the ball too long. He's a slow processer.

3. Our WR's and TE's DO get open, its just that, again, Sanchez holds onto the ball too long. He isn't confident that he can make the throws into tight spaces like the better QB's in the league do routinely.

4. We don't know what Sparano brings to the table so the jury is out on that. But many of the adjustments are, AGAIN, on the quarterback. Better QB's are able to make presnap reads and make adjustments on the fly. Sanchez doesn't have great ability in this category either. Maybe Sparano's root trees will make a difference but I doubt it.

When Pennington struggled it was on Paul Hackett. Most of Sanchez's problems were pinned on Schotty and soon probably to be pinned on Sparano. Same story with different personnel.

[Bleedin Green]

And to summarize the above: "We don't need a QB, we just need really good players at all other 10 spots on the field, plus superior coaching." Yeah, ok.

LBS's post

your head

[Jetsfan80]

tl;dr

how's it feel bitch?

I actually feel honored.

[Jetsfan80]

LBS's post

your head

I can't tell the difference anymore. LBS = Smashmouth at this point.

[Jetscode1]

Throughout his career, which has included a SB victory as DL coach in Baltimore, Rex has never had an ideal situation at QB. If he did, he'd probably have more rings under his belt, especially when he elevated to Defensive Coordinator.

However, that one SB victory was with Trent Dilfer, and it only occurred because of a monumental effort by the league's top defense.

Baltimore's less than illustrious starting QB's after Dilfer? Not much better:

2001: Elvis Grbac & Randall Cunningham

2002: Jeff Blake & Chris Redman

2003-05: Anthony Wright & Kyle Boller

Finally, a legit QB in the form of Steve McNair arrived in 2006, and unsurprisingly, the Ravens won a franchise record 13 games.

But alas, McNair was in the twilight years of his career and only started 6 games in 2007 due to injuries. Boller made his last play for the starting job before Troy Smith took over.

In Rex's final year as DC in Baltimore, the Ravens spent the 18th overall pick on Joe Flacco. This was perhaps Rex's best shot at having a franchise QB with which to pair with his defense, though the jury remains out on whether Flacco can ever be elite, or if he his ceiling is somewhere around the 2nd-3rd tier of NFL QB's.

Of course, we all know what happened when Rex arrived in New York. Perhaps if he had walked into a disaster zone of a team and acquired Matt Stafford, he'd have his 2nd ring......or more. Or maybe he'd have one if, instead of trading up for Sanchez, Rex took a trip down to Mississippi and begged Favre to come back to play for the Jets another year instead of going to Minnesota (something Rex himself admitted he would have done had they not gotten Sanchez).

The Jets perhaps had a chance at acquiring Peyton Manning this past offseason, but instead opted to extend Sanchez and trade for Tim Tebow, band-aid solutions for a team in desperate need for better QB play.

The problem for Rex has perhaps always been this: His defense is too good. What a franchise usually needs to happen to attain a franchise QB is to have such a terrible season that trading up is not even necessary to get the best one in that year's draft. The Colts had this luxury by earning the # 1 pick to acquire Andrew Luck, a serendipitous moment for a franchise that had had the pleasure of having Peyton Manning under center for so many years.

No matter how bad things might get, it seems that no Rex Ryan defense will EVER allow the Jets or any team he coaches to completely bottom out like this. The absolute floor for the 2012 Jets, even with a terrible offense, is perhaps 5-6 wins, which puts the Jets in top 10-12 territory but certainly not in range for the a top pick.

Not to mention, with the new CBA, it would be almost impossible to trade up to the # 1 slot without giving up a king's ransom. Note how much the Redskins had to deliver to St. Louis in order to earn the # 2 pick. And even this was only possible because the Rams already HAD their franchise guy in Sam Bradford. Teams with the top picks hold all the cards, and the ease with which the Jets moved up from 17 to 5 in 2009 would not have happened under the current CBA.

It's become clear that if via the draft OR free agency Rex does fall into a top-flight QB, or even a very good one who stays for a long time, he will win championships. Not just one but several. But that day seems unlikely to happen. For now, the most important question for the future of the Jets' franchise is this: Who will be the starting QB in Week 1, 2013?

To answer your question in the thread title...who the hell knows...to answer your question at the end...Mark Sanchez.

The franchise QB is the holy grail for NFL teams...you get one... competitive for a decade...especially when you balance him with a strong defensive team.

I will take issue with your premise that Rex may have one more titles if only he had a franchise QB...really its unknown...Ozzie Newsome (an excellent GM) and Brian Billick (excellent offensive minded HC) built those teams in Baltimore and for whatever reasons could not find the missing "franchise QB" to lead their team to the promise land. They tried several and still continued to miss...although at this point I'd suggest Flacco is capable of taking them to the promised land.

With the Jets...the FO and Rex made a team decision and took Sanchez in their first year together...right now he looks more like Boller than Flacco...can Sanchez develop...sure...we all hope. The key for me...did they find the right OC to help him develop? If not, are we looking to draft another or find a veteran that can manage the game?

Too many unknown variables at this point.

[Bleedin Green]

I can't tell the difference anymore. LBS = Smashmouth at this point.

I will admit, I was unsure myself at first, he really did too good of a job.

[Jetscode1]

Have any of you guys thought, (like I do) that perhaps every offense that has to practice against the Rex Ryan defenses start out at a disadvantage and by having to face guys like Revis and Cro that the passing game is never really given a chance to get into any kind of rhythm, first at the practices and that it spills over into the games on Sunday?

Yes, I've had these thoughts as well...pretty sure Randall Cunningham made similar observations when he played with Buddy in Philadelphia...which the media later made out as he was whining.

[#27TheDominator]

Root trees?

[Gastineau Lives]

We're not going to win sh*t without a good running game no matter who is under center.

We're not going to win sh*t without an offensive line that cant block.

We're not going to win with WR's and TE's who cant run routes or get open.

We're not going to win with a blind coaching staff who cant make adjustments as the game goes on.

Everyone loves to blame Sanchize for all the problems. He isnt the only problem. We have no running game. That puts pressure on him to perform. he cant because he's got happy feet because our line cant block, our receivers cant get open, and the plays were designed like sh*t.

So yeah, no matter what QB you put under center, outside of a hall of famer, we're toast. And there aint no hall of famers coming and knocking down our doors

Chicken - Egg.

If defenses know your QB is not throwing anthing further than ten yards down the field, it does not help your running game.

Some really good QB's have played with some really sh*tty running games and patchy offensive protection and less receiving talent than the Jets have had for the last three years.

[Jetscode1]

We're not going to win sh*t without a good running game no matter who is under center.

We're not going to win sh*t without an offensive line that cant block.

We're not going to win with WR's and TE's who cant run routes or get open.

We're not going to win with a blind coaching staff who cant make adjustments as the game goes on.

Everyone loves to blame Sanchize for all the problems. He isnt the only problem. We have no running game. That puts pressure on him to perform. he cant because he's got happy feet because our line cant block, our receivers cant get open, and the plays were designed like sh*t.

So yeah, no matter what QB you put under center, outside of a hall of famer, we're toast. And there aint no hall of famers coming and knocking down our doors

Many good points in this post...the turnstile at RT was a joke last year...really wished we had some consistency in the WRs Sanchez could grow with and no, I don't mean Tone....A real TE who can actually block and catch would help...still think we lack an ideal third down back...someone to you know catch the ball out of the backfield...maybe even make a tackler miss every once in a while...

[Lil Bit Special]

1. The teams in the Super Bowl this past season had awful running games. Yes, in OUR SCHEME, and with OUR QB, we need a running game to succeed. But by and large the trend of the league is that you can get by with even the worst running game as long as you're solid at QB.

2. Our offensive line is actually still pretty solid. If Austin Howard is the answer at RT you're talking about a top-10 unit, I'd say. Sanchez only faced an average amount of pressure last season compared to the rest of the league, and many of the sacks he incurred were by holding onto the ball too long. He's a slow processer.

3. Our WR's and TE's DO get open, its just that, again, Sanchez holds onto the ball too long. He isn't confident that he can make the throws into tight spaces like the better QB's in the league do routinely.

4. We don't know what Sparano brings to the table so the jury is out on that. But many of the adjustments are, AGAIN, on the quarterback. Better QB's are able to make presnap reads and make adjustments on the fly. Sanchez doesn't have great ability in this category either. Maybe Sparano's root trees will make a difference but I doubt it.

When Pennington struggled it was on Paul Hackett. Most of Sanchez's problems were pinned on Schotty and soon probably to be pinned on Sparano. Same story with different personnel.

1. Giants have Eli. Pats had Brady. Tell me where we're going to find a QB like them? We're not. So therefore WE NEED A ****ING RUNNING GAME. Every team with a mediocre QB needs a running game to lead the way. If our running game sucks, we're not going anywhere.

2. Our O-line sucks donkey balls. A Good O-line opens holes for the RB. A good O-line protects the QB. Ours, with all the "stars" on it, havent done a good enough job. Maybe we'll be better with Hunter gone... I certainly hope so because our season depends on a solid O-line.

3. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! Post of the Year!!! Are you ****ing kidding me! Our WR's and TE's never get open! They're never cold cause the defense gives them a blanket on every play. Is this all on them? Nope. Its the sh*tty plays designed by the previous retard OC. But they need to get open and separation. And yes, Sanchize needs to get the ball to them when they actually get some space.

4. OC's have always been blamed for our offensive woes. We love to pick on someone as the cause for why we suck. I dont expect much from Sparano. I do expect a lot better from everyone on offense, including the Sanchize.

Since we arent finding a top 5 QB, we arent going anywhere until our o-line can block like mother****ers and our running game can acutally hit a few holes

[Bleedin Green]

to answer your question at the end...Mark Sanchez.

Agree with this. Barring the unlikely circumstance that Sanchez gets his sh*t together this year I think the future of the Jets QB situation is probably pretty transparent. Despite what some people wish for, as long as Sanchez stays healthy this season is his, at the very least until they're eliminated from playoff contention. Assuming he has another mediocre-to-disappointing year, the Jets will hit the draft for a QB next year. Given they won't be close to having the top pick, they're not going to get one of the top flight options and so I think it becomes very likely they wait until the middle rounds to grab a QB. From there, they'll groom the rook while giving Sanchez his last chance to earn his keep (while probably letting Tebow compete for the job just for sh*ts and giggles). Sanchez will start the season and depending on how it goes, we'll likely be looking at a new starter somewhere between mid-2013 and the 2014 opener. The only other possibility would be if a viable veteran option becomes available for the Jets, but even then I think a draft pick is still likely to be brought in unless by chance it is a younger veteran (which I would doubt).

[Lil Bit Special]

I can't tell the difference anymore. LBS = Smashmouth at this point.

thats not nice.

[Lil Bit Special]

Chicken - Egg.

If defenses know your QB is not throwing anthing further than ten yards down the field, it does not help your running game.

Some really good QB's have played with some really sh*tty running games and patchy offensive protection and less receiving talent than the Jets have had for the last three years.

Curtis Martin had a pretty good career with a noodle arm qb.

our offense is quite mediocre. Qb. Rb. WR. Te. O-Line. Nobody dominates. Nobody is kick ass. And thats why we're going to barely make it to 9 wins and hope we make a run like the gints did last year.

[Lil Bit Special]

Many good points in this post...the turnstile at RT was a joke last year...really wished we had some consistency in the WRs Sanchez could grow with and no, I don't mean Tone....A real TE who can actually block and catch would help...still think we lack an ideal third down back...someone to you know catch the ball out of the backfield...maybe even make a tackler miss every once in a while...

+1. I hope fixing the problem at RT will cure a lot of what ails this offense. Then it will all fall at Markys feet for them sucking.

[Lil Bit Special]

thanks for the fun folks!

Unlike the rest of you, Im not going to sit here for 6 hours beating the same points into the ground for no reason. that bores me.

If you disagree with me, thats fine. People are entitled to their opinions and I dont expect anyone to be swayed by anything this lunatic says.

Please understand that no matter what you say to me, its not going to change my mind either. I havent moved off this point of view since last season. Our QB is mediocre and our offense needs to be better to compensate for his mediocrity. So far they havent, and I hope what I see on Sunday is a huge improvement.

[Jetscode1]

Agree with this. Barring the unlikely circumstance that Sanchez gets his sh*t together this year I think the future of the Jets QB situation is probably pretty transparent. Despite what some people wish for, as long as Sanchez stays healthy this season is his, at the very least until they're eliminated from playoff contention. Assuming he has another mediocre-to-disappointing year, the Jets will hit the draft for a QB next year. Given they won't be close to having the top pick, they're not going to get one of the top flight options and so I think it becomes very likely they wait until the middle rounds to grab a QB. From there, they'll groom the rook while giving Sanchez his last chance to earn his keep (while probably letting Tebow compete for the job just for sh*ts and giggles). Sanchez will start the season and depending on how it goes, we'll likely be looking at a new starter somewhere between mid-2013 and the 2014 opener. The only other possibility would be if a viable veteran option becomes available for the Jets, but even then I think a draft pick is still likely to be brought in unless by chance it is a younger veteran (which I would doubt).

I liked that we brought in another QB to at least make Mark realize that he needs to improve...I even think Tebow adds some value...the problem I have with the Jets approach...its more like a smorgasbord than a strict diet...the offense needed more emphasis on rhythm and consistency then multiple packages...really would have like Orton...would have made all our QBs (include McElroy) with similar skill sets.

Personally, I don't see Sanchez totally losing his job this year...actually thinking he'll hold his own and play decent but not great...makes next year's draft interesting. Does Rex and Tanny decide they've can win with him? Do we attack the draft trying to find his replacement or does Rex look for another toy for his defense? The biggest fear I have...Rex continually projects confidence and support on the offensive side of the ball without a logical basis...see the support for Hunter and McKnight (LTs replacement)...both were swings and misses...OTOH...he had no such trouble continually adding defensive draft choices and free agents to an area of strength.

[slats]

Many good points in this post...the turnstile at RT was a joke last year...really wished we had some consistency in the WRs Sanchez could grow with and no, I don't mean Tone....A real TE who can actually block and catch would help...still think we lack an ideal third down back...someone to you know catch the ball out of the backfield...maybe even make a tackler miss every once in a while...

Do those guys even exist anymore? Seems like anyone with the size and athleticism to be an all around TE is either playing defensive end, or, if they're really smart, power forward. TE just doesnt pay. I think the disposability of RBs is going to lead to further erosion of the talent there, too. Look at the Barber twins. Ronde's career has lasted 5 years longer and keeps going.

[Jetsfan80]

Our QB is mediocre and our offense needs to be better to compensate for his mediocrity. So far they havent, and I hope what I see on Sunday is a huge improvement.

This is the bottom line and one I can agree with for sure. The problem is, we invested heavily into Sanchez, and its difficult to invest heavily in the REST of the offense when this happens. If Sanchez were to ever play like a top 5 pick, all these other concerns would wash away.

[Lil Bit Special]

This is the bottom line and one I can agree with for sure. The problem is, we invested heavily into Sanchez, and its difficult to invest heavily in the REST of the offense when this happens. If Sanchez were to ever play like a top 5 pick, all these other concerns would wash away.

thats what sucks. he's more of a 3rd round talent. and we wasted a pick on him. and it hurts how much money we spent.

Dont get me wrong, I wish we had a good Qb. I'd kick Sanchize to the (e)curb in an instant. But that guy isnt there. And it makes me sad that we fight over our sh*tty team.