JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Do you think Holmes is just a little bit over rated? Depends on how you rate him. JIF I am well aware Holmes has some talent but that talent only shows itself when hes not the focus of the defense or hes running non contested wide open with the ball thrown in his chest. Hes simply not good enough to handle defenses keying on him like some of the other number 1 WR's in this league are. Hes not physical enough and he totally refuses to fight for the football. Hes a pussy and thats it. I named 20 WR's last year who I thought were better than Holmes and you laughed at me with your famous LMFAO comment and claimed Santonio was somewhere in the top ten in the NFL which I found hilarious then and still find it hilarious now that your still sticking up for this POS. Not only has he become a bad player but his attitude is off the charts stupid as well. You can not rely on flashes of great play to evaluate talent its all about consistency. Just ask guys like Megatron who are constantly double teamed yeat still put up 1500 + yards same with Smith and Fitz you know real #1's. Those QB's are not scared to throw up a jump ball because they know that their WR's will fight for the Football wonder how Sanchez feels about thowing a ball and hoping Holmes will fight for it, you know like Braylon used to do. Great, cool, awesome. So who's the better option on the Jets and where were they yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Depends on how you rate him. Thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Depends on how you rate him. Great, cool, awesome. So who's the better option on the Jets and where were they yesterday? Honestly JIF I dont give a damn ....you know why ? Because Holmes dropped passes that were thrown to HIM . You wanted your little bitch to get targeted and he got 11 which is about the norm for a number 1 WR HOLMES sh*t the bed and then fell in it. I cant really tell you if there were better options because . I dont have access to the play book, nor do I know what plays were called, nor do i have acces to all 22 film . Wish I could be of some more help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Honestly JIF I dont give a damn ....you know why ? Because Holmes dropped passes that were thrown to HIM . You wanted your little bitch to get targeted and he got 11 which is about the norm for a number 1 WR HOLMES sh*t the bed and then fell in it. I cant really tell you if there were better options because . I dont have access to the play book, nor do I know what plays were called, nor do i have acces to all 22 film . Wish I could be of some more help. So the answer to my simple question is, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So the answer to my simple question is, no? You need a kick to the ribs. Holmes sucks at WR almost as much as you suck at basketball. Admit you're wrong or suffer the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 You need a kick to the ribs. Holmes sucks at WR almost as much as you suck at basketball. Admit you're wrong or suffer the consequences. What am I wrong about? That he was the best WR in green and white on the field yesterday? You suck at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Next to stealing stuff from your locker, a player likely can't have a worse teammate than Holmes. He's talented, but he's a dick, he floats through long stretches in games, and likes to throw others under the bus. On one play Sanchez would miss him and Holmes would throw a miny tantrum and then in another Holmes drops an easy pass and he acts like it's nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What am I wrong about? That he was the best WR in green and white on the field yesterday? You suck at this. He was the highest paid WR in green and white, certainly not the best. Sanchez tried to stroke his gigantic ego by giving him a chance to shine and he crapped all over himself. He is the Scott Mitchell of WR's.. a jag who somehow managed to get paid like a star on the heels of a couple decent performances. The fact that you choose this slug as your FAVORITEST NFL PLAYER speaks volumes about you. I bet when you trot into your dimly lit YMCA donned in your Orlando Magic warm up suit, doing a 1 man layup drill, there is a collective groan from the other 30 somethings. They want to simply play a stress free game and you're acting like Gene Hackman in Hoosiers. You probably do the Dougie after hitting an 8 foot jump shot ignoring the fact you missed your first 9 shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 He was the highest paid WR in green and white, certainly not the best. Oh my bad, who was the best WR in green and white yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Oh my bad, who was the best WR in green and white yesterday? Konrad Reuland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Konrad Reuland lmfao - yeah, thats what I thought. At least you gave me an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 lmfao - yeah, thats what I thought. At least you gave me an answer. He was better than Holmes... Mark never gave anyone else a chance. He relied too much on his fake friend who was getting all that separation you loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 He was better than Holmes... Mark never gave anyone else a chance. He relied too much on his fake friend who was getting all that separation you loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 nyjetscap @nyjetscap Watched some more footage of the #Jets game last week. Holmes is going to be a problem if this happens again. Terrible demeanor towards QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 nyjetscap @nyjetscap Watched some more footage of the #Jets game last week. Holmes is going to be a problem if this happens again. Terrible demeanor towards QB The problem wasn't that Holmes was being Holmes. The problem was that Sanchez curled up into a ball again, sitting by himself on the bench and hanging his head. Again. If there was any hope that he'd grown a pair of nuts over the summer, I'd say those hopes were set back a tad this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Did we forget that Holmes caught the only TD Sunday? Jesus. People complained about Burress last year and he caught 8 TD's. The WR's aren't the problem. This is clear as day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Did we forget that Holmes caught the only TD Sunday? Jesus. People complained about Burress last year and he caught 8 TD's. The WR's aren't the problem. This is clear as day. I think the degree of hardness and the root trees are the real culprits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Did we forget that Holmes caught the only TD Sunday? Jesus. People complained about Burress last year and he caught 8 TD's. The WR's aren't the problem. This is clear as day. Bullsh*t. There is equal blame to go around... Sanchez is a pussy. Holmes is a piece of sh*t. Sanchez hits Holmes in the hands, and Holmes drops the ball. Holmes throws fit at Sanchez. Sanchez throws the ball to a spot on the field, like all QBs do. Holmes breaks off route, ball sails over his head making it look like an over-throw, but it's plain as day Holmes quit on his route. Holmes throws fit at Sanchez. Sanchez is mediocre, and a baby, BUT the nightmarish play on Sunday was all on Holmes. He was ****ing awful. I got the sense that he was demanding the ball so he could show up his old team, and he couldn't ****ing deliver because he's useless. I say again, I don't care for Sanchez, but I believe in putting the blame where it is rightfully due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I think the degree of hardness and the root trees are the real culprits. You had it with Optimus Gruden. Now you are trying too hard. Get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The problem wasn't that Holmes was being Holmes. The problem was that Sanchez curled up into a ball again, sitting by himself on the bench and hanging his head. Again. If there was any hope that he'd grown a pair of nuts over the summer, I'd say those hopes were set back a tad this weekend. I'm really getting sick of this. There's more to the game than quarterbacking, you know. There are MISSED TACKLES and CANCERS and SHONN GREENES. And there are WEAPONS and RIGHT TACKLES and FURTIVELY MASTURBATING TO FOOTAGE OF THE SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 You had it with Optimus Gruden. Now you are trying too hard. Get it. I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I'm really getting sick of this. There's more to the game than quarterbacking, you know. There are MISSED TACKLES and CANCERS and SHONN GREENES. And there are WEAPONS and RIGHT TACKLES and FURTIVELY MASTURBATING TO FOOTAGE OF THE SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS. COORDINATION SEPARATION MISSED TACKLES AND GERMAN FART PORN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I'm really getting sick of this. There's more to the game than quarterbacking, you know. There are MISSED TACKLES and CANCERS and SHONN GREENES. And there are WEAPONS and RIGHT TACKLES and FURTIVELY MASTURBATING TO FOOTAGE OF THE SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS. I think you're wrong. I think it's the quarterback, buster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 COORDINATION SEPARATION MISSED TACKLES AND GERMAN FART PORN [repped for German fart porn] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I'm really getting sick of this. There's more to the game than quarterbacking, you know. There are MISSED TACKLES and CANCERS and SHONN GREENES. And there are WEAPONS and RIGHT TACKLES and FURTIVELY MASTURBATING TO FOOTAGE OF THE SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS. Rotfl and potw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It truly is surreal how football has evolved from a team game to a QB playing against 11 guys here at JetNation. Sanchez got his bell rung on Sunday, illegally and wasnt the same. Holmes was typical Holmes. Dropping passes, lazy routes, stamping his feet. The arguments arent even worth it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Dropping passes, lazy routes, stamping his feet. The arguments arent even worth it anymore. Meanwhile Sanchez mopes in the corner. You're right, the arguments aren't worth it. Our top 5 pick has sucked for 3+ seasons and people still refuse to believe it. They'd rather blame ANYTHING else rather than face this reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Meanwhile Sanchez mopes in the corner. You're right, the arguments aren't worth it. Our top 5 pick has sucked for 3+ seasons and people still refuse to believe it. They'd rather blame ANYTHING else rather than face this reality. Holmes has sucked too. Ppl refuse to believe it. Catch the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Holmes has sucked too. Ppl refuse to believe it. Catch the ball. But he hasn't sucked his entire career. He was a productive player in Pittsburgh who won a Super Bowl MVP, but had a diva personality that got him traded. Now he's just a diva who can't produce with a sh*tty QB, and hence is worthless. For every drop Holmes has had in a Jets uniform there's probably been 3 or 4 throws that sailed over his head, was thrown behind him or underthrown as well. You can't exonerate Sanchez because of the drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 What's furtively mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 But he hasn't sucked his entire career. He was a productive player in Pittsburgh who won a Super Bowl MVP, but had a diva personality that got him traded. Now he's just a diva who can't produce with a sh*tty QB, and hence is worthless. For every drop Holmes has had in a Jets uniform there's probably been 3 or 4 throws that sailed over his head, was thrown behind him or underthrown as well. You can't exonerate Sanchez because of the drops. You seem to be exonerating Holmes though. "The WR's arent a problem" Yeah they are. They were awful on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 "The WR's arent a problem" I said they aren't THE problem. As in, if you replaced Sanchez with an average QB, we'd be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I said they aren't THE problem. As in, if you replaced Sanchez with an average QB, we'd be fine. Oh yeah, like who? Which average QB in the league right now is doing more with less than Sanchez is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Oh yeah, like who? Which average QB in the league right now is doing more with less than Sanchez is? Sam Bradford (508 yds, 4 TD's, 1 INT) with nobodies. Plus Schottenheimer running the show. Carson Palmer (670 yds, 2 TD's, 1 INT) with Darius Heyward-Bey and some nobodies. Rookie RG3 (526 yds, 3 TD's, 1 INT) with "superstars" like Josh Morgan, Pierre Garcon and Fred Davis. Rookie Andrew Luck (533 yds, 3 TD's, 3 INT's) with an aging Reggie Wayne and a bunch of nobodies. Matt Cassel (559 yds, 3 TD's, 3 INT's) with Dwayne Bowe, a bunch of nobodies, and Jamaal Charles having an awful start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I said they aren't THE problem. As in, if you replaced Sanchez with an average QB, we'd be fine. Sanchez played great against the Bills, and not nearly as well against a Steeler defense that makes a lot of QBs look crappy. Plus, he took a nasty hit to the jaw that may -or may not- have contributed to his performance. Sanchez' obituary may be written this season, but let's let the season play out first. He needs a bounce back performance against the fish this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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