JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Agreed. It's not that it was unwinnable. It's just that historically they lose that game. Just like how historically the Jets own the Bills early in the season. These trends exist. Are we supposed to pretend that they don't? Hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 i've seen everyone blaming the defense and the offense but let's not forget about Kirley's muff. that was as big a play as any in terms of winning and losing. You can't muff a punt and win this game. Period. In other words they had to play perfect today to beat this team in this building. I am not saying it was impossible. But it was unlikely. The entire team sucked today. Nobody gets a pass. Offense was offensive. Defense didnt play well. Special teams was brutal. Sparano play calls were awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Agreed. It's not that it was unwinnable. It's just that historically they lose that game. Just like how historically the Jets own the Bills early in the season. These trends exist. Are we supposed to pretend that they don't? We agreed on this early in the week. So to me it wasn't a surprise. What does surprise me though is the fact that Jets continue to have problems with fast, physcial defenses. Ravens, Steelers, Eagles, Giants no matter how good the Jets are still manage to find a way to dominate the LOS. The Jets were close in 2010. They were able to beat the Steelers in the regular season, played a great physical game against the Ravens opening night that year, but right now they are no where near that level of physicality and intensity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Hold on a second? Your knocking someone for predicting a loss prior to the season but you've all offseason predicted utter doom for the Jets with Tebow starting in week 6. Holy high horse I'm a better fan post from the biggest **** stick on the site. This is priceless. So, to understand, this is the fourth year of the Rex regime, the seventh year of the Tannenbaum stewardship, and the fourth year of the Sanchez Era, and it's still cool to forfeit a game to a so-so Steelers team because they're just so much better than we are at this point? If that's the case, what's the end game for this franchise? To try really, really, really hard for as long as you can until the fans stop buying tickets, then fire another coach? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So, to understand, this is the fourth year of the Rex regime, the seventh year of the Tannenbaum stewardship, and the fourth year of the Sanchez Era, and it's still cool to forfeit a game to a so-so Steelers team because they're just so much better than we are at this point? If that's the case, what's the end game for this franchise? To try really, really, really hard for as long as you can until the fans stop buying tickets, then fire another coach? Please. we'll never stop buying tickets. we're too stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So, to understand, this is the fourth year of the Rex regime, the seventh year of the Tannenbaum stewardship, and the fourth year of the Sanchez Era, and it's still cool to forfeit a game to a so-so Steelers team because they're just so much better than we are at this point? If that's the case, what's the end game for this franchise? To try really, really, really hard for as long as you can until the fans stop buying tickets, then fire another coach? Please. I dont think the Steelers are "so much" better than the Jets. I think if you play that game at Metlife, the Jets win. Its a tough place to play, for any team, let alone the Jets going in there on their home opener without their best player. The Steelers out played the Jets. I dont think its because they are infinitely better, more than the circumstances were very tough for the Jets. Are you implying these types of factors have no impact on the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 NFL quarterbacks make their living throwing to receivers covered by 3rd corners. Without Revis, we had at least 2 receivers going against weak corners on every pass play. Couple that with a couple of missed sack opportunities and this is a different game. If we are going to beat the Steelers on the road, it is going to be a 17-10 slugfest. Our defense did not allow that to happen and create short fields for our offense. Instead they moved it up and down the field, controlled the clock and kicked us into long field situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I dont think the Steelers are "so much" better than the Jets. I think if you play that game at Metlife, the Jets win. Aww... thanks! You made my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I dont think the Steelers are "so much" better than the Jets. I think if you play that game at Metlife, the Jets win. Its a tough place to play, for any team, let alone the Jets going in there on their home opener without their best player. The Steelers out played the Jets. I dont think its because they are infinitely better, more than the circumstances were very tough for the Jets. Are you implying these types of factors have no impact on the game? It is and the details you alluded to factor into the game, but don't you have to rise above it? The Patriots had any number of 50 have never done before before Belichick/Brady, but eventually grew-up and overcame them. A lot of Jets fans sound like Patriots fans last year when they played the Steelers. They were dominated and lost by 8, but it was not that close. yet, you had a bunch of coulda, shoulda, and wouldas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I agree with Bit for once too, fwiw. Me too ...I'll deal with the fright of that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 It is and the details you alluded to factor into the game, but don't you have to rise above it? The Patriots had any number of 50 have never done before before Belichick/Brady, but eventually grew-up and overcame them. A lot of Jets fans sound like Patriots fans last year when they played the Steelers. They were dominated and lost by 8, but it was not that close. yet, you had a bunch of coulda, shoulda, and wouldas. Look, I'm not saying it acceptable but its reality. There's a reason why Vegas always gives a few to the home team. There's a reason why teams battle for home field advantage and there is a reason why teams get home field advantage and there's a reason its called, home field advantage. lol And giving me the Patriots as an example is awful. There are only a couple of teams rolling out HOF Qb's in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 NFL quarterbacks make their living throwing to receivers covered by 3rd corners. Without Revis, we had at least 2 receivers going against weak corners on every pass play. Couple that with a couple of missed sack opportunities and this is a different game. If we are going to beat the Steelers on the road, it is going to be a 17-10 slugfest. Our defense did not allow that to happen and create short fields for our offense. Instead they moved it up and down the field, controlled the clock and kicked us into long field situations. If you're going to play the Revis card, you must be willing to admit that we should have been able to take advantage of no Polamalu and Harrison. Instead, the offense sucked for 3 quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Im one of the more (most) optimistic guys on this board and even i knew we had a 20 percent chance of winning this game....when revis was ruled out it dropped to 10 percent. #nosurprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If we are 3-2 after 5 that is all I want. If we can navigate this part of the schedule it can pave the way to 10 wins if we can kill the young QBs we have coming up... This guy gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If we are 3-2 after 5 that is all I want. If we can navigate this part of the schedule it can pave the way to 10 wins if we can kill the young QBs we have coming up... And I also imagine we'll be a better team by then than the one that we saw yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Im one of the more (most) optimistic guys on this board and even i knew we had a 20 percent chance of winning this game....when revis was ruled out it dropped to 10 percent. #nosurprise I knew it was tough to win, but I expected better than what i saw. 14 to go. hope we can get 9 more wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Im one of the more (most) optimistic guys on this board and even i knew we had a 20 percent chance of winning this game....when revis was ruled out it dropped to 10 percent. #nosurprise Did I expect to win? No, but I was optimistic. Did I expect better play by the team as a whole? Yes. How could you watch that game yesterday and not be disappointed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 more fun stats: that was the Steelers 10th straight home opener victory. Overall (before yesterday) the Jets are 4-17 against the Steelers. 3-9 at home. 1-8 in Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That is the point when are we going to be the dominant team and other teams chasing us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That is the point when are we going to be the dominant team and other teams chasing us? Never until we have the best QB in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 if we go 3-2 i can see us going 11-5 with the rest of the schedule. if we go 2-3, 10-6 would be a good guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That is the point when are we going to be the dominant team and other teams chasing us? Who is/are the dominate team that other teams are chasing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Who is/are the dominate team that other teams are chasing? Sanfran and Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Look, I'm not saying it acceptable but its reality. There's a reason why Vegas always gives a few to the home team. There's a reason why teams battle for home field advantage and there is a reason why teams get home field advantage and there's a reason its called, home field advantage. lol And giving me the Patriots as an example is awful. There are only a couple of teams rolling out HOF Qb's in the NFL. No, it is not. The Patriots were in that limbo the Jets are in. Sometimes good. Sometimes bad. Never great. Then Brady and Belichick arrive and things change. The Jets made strides with Rex and Sanchez, but the truth is he is they are what they are. Seomtimes good. Sometimes bad. Never grreat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Sanfran and Texas. And what exactly have these dominate teams accomplished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 No, it is not. The Patriots were in that limbo the Jets are in. Sometimes good. Sometimes bad. Never great. Then Brady and Belichick arrive and things change. The Jets made strides with Rex and Sanchez, but the truth is he is they are what they are. Seomtimes good. Sometimes bad. Never grreat. Thats the point you penis. You made strides because you have a HOF QB. The Jets, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 And what exactly have these dominate teams accomplished? Depends on what you give them credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I would like us to take over the division from the Pats for a start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 I would like us to take over the division from the Pats for a start! losing at Pitt during week 2 doesn't necessarily prove that the Jets are worse than the Pats. all it proves is that they are worse than the Steelers, in their house, week 2. I am too lazy to look it up but everyone is tied in the AFC east, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Thats the point you penis. You made strides because you have a HOF QB. The Jets, not so much. That is what I have been saying inverted penis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 And until we can beat the Pats and other elite teams in the NFL you will be satisfied to lose to steelers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Depends on what you give them credit for. Huh? It was a simple question with definitive answer. What have these "dominate" teams, the entire league is chasing, accomplished? Playoffs wins? A NFCG loss? Those things dont matter when it pertains to the Jets, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Huh? It was a simple question with definitive answer. What have these "dominate" teams, the entire league is chasing, accomplished? Playoffs wins? A NFCG loss? Those things dont matter when it pertains to the Jets, remember? Depends on how you rate Playoffs wins and NFCG loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Depends on how you rate Playoffs wins and NFCG loss. This conversation is very stimulating. Is this because of the response I gave you about Holmse? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This conversation is very stimulating. Is this because of the response I gave you about Holmse? lol At least you were stimulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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