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By Kristian DyerPublished: November 17, 2013

Jets humiliated by Bills in ugly display by Geno Smith

Geno Smith

 

 

After two weeks of talk the Jets could be a playoff team, they looked anything but in a 37-14 loss at the Bills. What should have been a winnable game against a team that came into Week 11 with three straight losses by a combined 38 points turned into an unmitigated disaster.

 

 

The Bills raced out to a 20-0 lead by halftime, the catalyst being a link-up between Bills quarterback E.J. Manuel and T.J. Graham for a 34-yard touchdown and a 10-0 lead. The Jets had zero answer for the Bills on either side of the ball.

 

 

With the loss, the Jets have yet to put together a winning streak this season, failing to build on their impressive Week 9 win over the Saints.

 

 

What we learned …

 

 

1. Dee is an ‘F’

 

 

First-round pick Dee Milliner was supposedly among the top four players on the Jets’ draft board when he was selected No. 9 overall this past April, but he’s looked like anything but a top-tier cornerback. He was burned on the Bills’ first touchdown of the game when he got turned around on Manuel’s heave toward Graham. He also gave up a 40-yard connection midway through the third quarter, when he was burned over the top and tight against the sidelines. Right now, Milliner is nothing short of a liability on the field. He needs to be benched.

 

 

2. Geno Smith’s terrible, horrible, no good, very bad game

 

 

Smith didn’t look like a franchise quarterback on Sunday, at least not in the NFL. It would be easy to blame Smith’s bad day on an offensive line that wasn’t at its best or on the fact that he’s a rookie quarterback and still developing. Instead, it might just be that he’s not very good and struggles to read defensive coverages. He consistently threw into double coverage and all three of his interceptions against a very good Bill secondary were avoidable — including twice underthrowing his targets. Smith was yanked by the end of the third quarter with a stat line that read 8-of-23 for 103 yards with three interceptions and a blindside fumble in an abysmal afternoon. Week 11 represented the sixth time in his young NFL career he has thrown multiple interceptions in a game. The Jets have won just one of those six games. He finished with a passer rating of 10.14.

 

 

3. Play of Simms

 

 

If there was a bright spot for the Jets, it was the play of Matt Simms. The second-year quarterback entered the game in the fourth quarter and had far more of a pocket presence than his rookie predecessor. He orchestrated a six-play, 62-yard drive on his first possession and completed all three of his passes for 48 yards. He found Jeff Cumberland for a 13-yard touchdown to cap it off. The small measure of respect for the Jets showed that Simms can play at this level and there should be a quarterback controversy in Jets land. He was very nearly picked off on his second drive of the game but there is clearly some potential here.

 

Follow Jets beat writer Kristian Dyer on Twitter @KristianRDyer.

 

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Rapid Reaction: New York Jets

November, 17, 2013

 

NOV 17

4:12

PM ET

 

By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com

 

 

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- A few thoughts on the New York Jets' 37-14 loss to the Buffalo Bills:

 

What it means: The maddeningly inconsistent Jets (5-5) became the first team in NFL history to alternate wins and losses through its first 10 games. Coming off a feel-good bye week, following their upset of the New Orleans Saints, the Jets were flat and perhaps overconfident. They proved once again that they lack the maturity to handle success and, now, expectations. This was their third blowout loss. In their last two defeats, they've lost by a total of 63 points. That shouldn't happen to a team that fancies itself a legitimate playoff contender. Much will be made of the Jets' team trip Saturday afternoon to a Dave & Busters in the Buffalo area. That's not the reason they lost, but it sent a bad message.

 

 

Stock watch: The Jets have a quarterback problem. Geno Smith was brutal, committing four turnovers. That makes 20 for the season. Rattled by the Bills' pass rush, he threw his 14th, 15th and 16th interceptions, including his fourth pick-six of the season. He completed only 8 of 23 passes for 103 yards and a season-low passer rating of 10.1. The windy conditions were tough, but it didn't stop EJ Manuel from picking apart the Jets' defense. Smith was replaced by Matt Simms early in the fourth quarter. It's not time to bench Smith, but he has to be on a short leash. The Jets can't live with his rookie mistakes, not in a playoff push. In his last five games, Smith has one touchdown pass and eight interceptions. His body language suggests his confidence is shot, and the coaches' confidence in him is waning, judging by the conservative game plan. Not even the return of Santonio Holmes and Kellen Winslow helped.

 

 

Reed all about it: The Jets signed future Hall of Fame safety Ed Reed, in large part, to help them solve their problems defending the deep ball. It didn't work against Manuel, who threw touchdown passes of 34 and 43 yards. That has to be troubling for the Jets because the Bills aren't known for their vertical passing, and they played without two of their top receivers, Stevie Johnson and Robert Woods. Reed, who started and played all but two snaps, blitzed on the first scoring pass. The Jets played "zero" coverage, meaning no deep safety, allowing T.J. Graham to adjust to an underthrown pass that got caught up in the wind and fooled Dee Milliner. On the second touchdown, Reed was late in providing deep help for Antonio Cromartie, who was torched by speedster Marquise Goodwin.

 

 

What's ahead: The Jets are on the road again, facing the defending Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens on Nov. 24.

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Simms threw the ball directly into McKelvin's hands in hopes of hitting a triple-covered Hill, that's not much of an upgrade over Geno. This team isn't that good, we've known this for a long time. This defense isn't that great outside against the run, we've know that all season. I don't know why this comes as such a shock to everyone: on the road, where we've won one game all season (against a terrible falcons team), against a divisional opponent where all records are always thrown out and in windy conditions, there's a reason the line was favoring Buffalo by 1.

 

Personally, I think the team will rebound and have a better game but still lose to Baltimore on the road, split against miami and end up 8-8 somehow this season, which isn't terribly surprising or that bad considering how talent-deplete this team is. Yea, the loss sucks, especially when we were/are in such great position for the playoffs, but a few wins here and there, mixed in with a bunch of positive articles doesn't change the fact that this team still isn't very good. I hope we win our next 6 games, but I just don't expect them too.  

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This was the first time all season Geno looked scared. Our offense stinks an it's not totally his fault...but sh*t man, there's no reason not to try Simms out. Nothing to lose.

Milliner and Hill are both dreadful football players and are killing us. Upgrades from those two guys and were a much better football team.

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After Night of Fun and Games, Jets Find Game Is No Fun

 

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The Jets' Geno Smith was sacked by Buffalo's Jairus Byrd. He was sacked four times and committed four turnovers.

By BEN SHPIGEL

 

Published: November 17, 2013 Comment

 

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — The night before the Jets’ first game in two weeks, Coach Rex Ryan addressed his players and then canceled their offensive and defensive meetings. He had a surprise for them: a few hours of arcade fun at Dave & Buster’s.

 

 

The Jets were blasted by the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, 37-14, not because they played billiards or Pop-A-Shot basketball or Skee-Ball. They lost because a broken doorknob would have been more effective than Geno Smith. They lost because expired medicine would have been more useful than their sagging pass protection. They lost because the Bills accepted Ryan’s challenge to throw deep, burning the Jets’ secondary for two long touchdowns.

 

 

But in the wake of this thrashing, and surely with the benefit of hindsight, it seems as if those two hours Saturday might have been better spent preparing for a Buffalo defense that pounded Smith or refining a plan to stop quarterback E J Manuel, who completed 20 of 28 passes for 245 yards and 2 touchdowns.

 

 

The Jets had heard for two weeks, after they toppled New Orleans on Nov. 3, that they were a good team, a team with the inside track on a playoff spot. They have thrived on skepticism, on proving prognostications wrong, and it looks as if they will get another chance. The Jets (5-5) became the first team in N.F.L. history to alternate wins and losses for its first 10 games.

 

 

Smith committed four turnovers — three interceptions and a fumble — and was benched for the second time in three games for poor play. He was 8 for 23 for 103 yards and a 10.1 passer rating. Through the first 10 games of his career, he has 20 turnovers. For the fourth time in four games, one of his interceptions was returned for a touchdown, a 32-yarder by Da’Norris Searcy that extended the Bills’ lead to 34-7.

 

 

On Thursday, Ryan opened his news conference by noting that the Jets were underdogs. He seemed genuinely offended, as if it were unfathomable that a team that had yet to win two in a row, that had won once in four away games, would not be favored on the road against a division rival. Rather than proclaiming that the Jets were a superior team, Ryan seemed to be implying that Buffalo was inferior. One can only wonder how the Bills, who stopped a three-game skid, interpreted the Jets’ trip to an arcade.

 

 

The Jets’ afternoon unraveled in a 2-minute-50-second span of the second quarter, when Buffalo scored 17 points en route to a 20-0 lead. At halftime, the Jets — who had shredded Buffalo for 513 yards on Sept. 22 — had gained 57 yards, completed three passes and recorded three first downs. They had no first downs on their final five possessions of the half, a stretch of ineptitude that comprised three three-and-outs, a lost fumble and an interception. The Jets reached the Buffalo 30 just once, when Nick Folk missed his first field goal in 24 attempts, the swirling winds yanking his 48-yarder far right.

 

 

Before the game devolved into a rout, the Jets trailed by 3-0 late in the second quarter. The pivotal moment occurred as they were preparing to receive a punt. A neutral-zone infraction — a mental mistake, one of Ryan’s pet peeves — by Leger Douzable turned a fourth-and-6 into a more manageable fourth-and-1 at the Jets’ 33.

 

 

Manuel sneaked for a first down, and three plays later he lofted a 34-yard touchdown to T. J. Graham, who tracked the arcing pass far better than the rookie cornerback Dee Milliner.

 

 

Forty-eight seconds later, the 10-0 lead ballooned to 17-0 when Frank Summers, after Kyle Williams had forced a Smith fumble with a sack, bulled in from 3 yards out.

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Simms threw the ball directly into McKelvin's hands in hopes of hitting a triple-covered Hill, that's not much of an upgrade over Geno. This team isn't that good, we've known this for a long time. This defense isn't that great outside against the run, we've know that all season. I don't know why this comes as such a shock to everyone: on the road, where we've won one game all season (against a terrible falcons team), against a divisional opponent where all records are always thrown out and in windy conditions, there's a reason the line was favoring Buffalo by 1.

 

Personally, I think the team will rebound and have a better game but still lose to Baltimore on the road, split against miami and end up 8-8 somehow this season, which isn't terribly surprising or that bad considering how talent-deplete this team is. Yea, the loss sucks, especially when we were/are in such great position for the playoffs, but a few wins here and there, mixed in with a bunch of positive articles doesn't change the fact that this team still isn't very good. I hope we win our next 6 games, but I just don't expect them too.  

 

 

Disagree on both counts. Simms also doesn't get the reps all week like Geno does,

 

Geno hasn't "rebounded" since the Atlanta game. Here are his stats in the last 5 games.

 
76/139 (54.7%), 811 yards (5.8 ypa, 10.6 ypc, and 162.5 ypg), 1 TD, 8 INTs
 
18 carries, 66 yards, 2 TDs, 5 fumbles (1 lost)
 
Geno is a level of dogsh*t QB even the Jets have never seen before.
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Disagree on both counts. Simms also doesn't get the reps all week like Geno does,

 

Geno hasn't "rebounded" since the Atlanta game. Here are his stats in the last 5 games.

 
76/139 (54.7%), 811 yards (5.8 ypa, 10.6 ypc, and 162.5 ypg), 1 TD, 8 INTs
 
18 carries, 66 yards, 2 TDs, 5 fumbles (1 lost)
 
Geno is a level of dogsh*t QB even the Jets have never seen before.

 

 

I said the team will rebound, I did not say that Geno would have some statistically magnificent output. So your numbers are fine, but it does nothing to dispel that Simms has looked equally as bad when he has gotten time, nor that the team will rebound, something they have done after every loss. It's your opinion to think Simms offers more than Geno, but I really don't see how anything in your post validates that.

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There's nothing to lose at this point playing Simms. Geno had the deer in headlights look and he's on the brink of being dunzo imo...sit the kid down and let him digest some stuff from the sideline. Throwing him to the wolves again in Baltimore isnt a good idea...in hindsight that Falcons win doesnt look nearly as impressive.

 

There's no investment with Simms- if he goes out there and stinks it up, oh well...you can always go back to Geno at home. But guys arent going to be open at Baltimore either and I dont see the point in getting Geno killed again.

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WHY WHY WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE PLAY WELL AGAINST GOOD TEAMS AND so bad against soso teams  WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Jets simply play better AT HOME. All of their good wins 4-1 came at MetLife. Young teams don't travel well, but it's on Mornhinweg to dumb down the Jets system to give Geno some success on the hostile road. Jets will play better against Ravens but will still lose to break that even, odd W, L streak. Rex is a goner at the end of this season also. He is an embarrassment as a HC and cannot get this team to play with steady emotion week in and week out.

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Disagree on both counts. Simms also doesn't get the reps all week like Geno does,

 

Geno hasn't "rebounded" since the Atlanta game. Here are his stats in the last 5 games.

 
76/139 (54.7%), 811 yards (5.8 ypa, 10.6 ypc, and 162.5 ypg), 1 TD, 8 INTs
 
18 carries, 66 yards, 2 TDs, 5 fumbles (1 lost)
 
Geno is a level of dogsh*t QB even the Jets have never seen before.

 

 

Except for the month of December 2012, the last (non-preseason) action of Mark Sanchez's career, when we saw even worse:

 

52/103 (50.5%), 544 yards (5.3 ypa, 10.5 ypc, 136 ypg), 1 TD, 8 INTs (including a pick-6 on the road vs. Buffalo)

 

18 carries, 18 yards, 0 TDs, 4 fumbes (3 lost)

 

 

This fantasy that Sanchez would be so much better is just that.  His last action with the Jets was technically even worse, if you can imagine that.  And that was with almost 4 years of NFL starting experience, 4 training camps, 4 years...(etc.) under his belt.

 

Now that being said, Geno looks like complete dogsh*t.  I wanted to see him with extensive opportunity and I have.  He sucks.  Rex is going to continue playing him, so if the light suddenly goes on then I'm wrong on him again.  But other than a stronger arm and better mobility, which is only more useful if you know how to use those tools, I'm not seeing how we're so much better off than with the last bust QB we had.  The only case one can make - which stubborn Sanchizettes made for 4 consecutive seasons - is that it's early in his career yet and the light may yet go on.  

 

I'm fine with moving on from him.  10 games isn't nearly a career, and plenty of great QBs looked bad in their first 10 games, but I'm just not seeing enough to warrant penalizing 50 other guys while we're in a playoff run in the latter half of November.  I'd rather see Simms out there for potential (pedigree and strong arm), but truthfully if the team wants to make a playoff push they might even be best off using Garrard.  After his past month-ish in particular, Geno has earned himself the #3 job (with me giving Garrard the benefit of the doubt; even still he'd be #2 at best).  Like Sanchez, I don't see how anyone could argue that it isn't his recent draft status keeping him in there (plus QB isn't like other positions where you sub guys in & out, so a benching is more or less a permanent thing), but the QB play has been pretty awful.  I was 100% behind moving on from Sanchez and still think it was the right move (and drafting Smith so there are no questions, through another Sanchez-failure season, about how the f*DF#tH! could we have not taken Geno in round 2 with him just sitting there).  Anyway, it's quickly looking like another such move will be just as smart already.

 

Unfortunately it'll also looking like yet another Jets QB (Simms, when his time comes) getting a nod by default, as we've done for years now.  Hopefully this time it pays off when it happens.

 

And Rex did a horrid job of coaching and preparation.  If you're going to cancel the last team meeting for a Dave & Busters excursion, and even worse allow the public to know about it, you'd better make sure you win the f*cking game.  Westhoff had a great quickie-breakdown of the poor coaching during the game as well.  Guy looked positively befuddled.

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While this might make you feel better about the abortion the jets left on that field yesterday, its not true by any metric. 

 

They play well at home- this wasnt a walk in the park/show up type of game. Their defense has talent at every level. Manuel threw up some prayers that were answered. Doesnt help Milliner is terrible at football.

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Buffalo isnt a bad team. They play well at home and their D has talent.

 

  A 23-17 loss is one thing.    But the way the Jets were beat down is another.  And Geno sucked, but the Jets defense, the OL, the running game, etc all sucked.  

I mean the Jets defense allowed EJ Manuel and a bunch of nobody WRs look like Manning & the Denver Broncos offense yesterday.     When you lose like that, and you seem to lose like that every few weeks,  there is a huge problem with the entire organization.

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A 23-17 loss is one thing. But the way the Jets were beat down is another. And Geno sucked, but the Jets defense, the OL, the running game, etc all sucked.

I mean the Jets defense allowed EJ Manuel and a bunch of nobody WRs look like Manning & the Denver Broncos offense yesterday. When you lose like that, and you seem to lose like that every few weeks, there is a huge problem with the entire organization.

Manuel wasn't that good yesterday. His game yesterday was pretty much the mirror image of Geno's first game against the Bills.

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Except for the month of December 2012, the last (non-preseason) action of Mark Sanchez's career, when we saw even worse:

 

52/103 (50.5%), 544 yards (5.3 ypa, 10.5 ypc, 136 ypg), 1 TD, 8 INTs (including a pick-6 on the road vs. Buffalo)

 

18 carries, 18 yards, 0 TDs, 4 fumbes (3 lost)

 

 

This fantasy that Sanchez would be so much better is just that.  His last action with the Jets was technically even worse, if you can imagine that.  And that was with almost 4 years of NFL starting experience, 4 training camps, 4 years...(etc.) under his belt.

 

Now that being said, Geno looks like complete dogsh*t.  I wanted to see him with extensive opportunity and I have.  He sucks.  Rex is going to continue playing him, so if the light suddenly goes on then I'm wrong on him again.  But other than a stronger arm and better mobility, which is only more useful if you know how to use those tools, I'm not seeing how we're so much better off than with the last bust QB we had.  The only case one can make - which stubborn Sanchizettes made for 4 consecutive seasons - is that it's early in his career yet and the light may yet go on.  

 

I'm fine with moving on from him.  10 games isn't nearly a career, and plenty of great QBs looked bad in their first 10 games, but I'm just not seeing enough to warrant penalizing 50 other guys while we're in a playoff run in the latter half of November.  I'd rather see Simms out there for potential (pedigree and strong arm), but truthfully if the team wants to make a playoff push they might even be best off using Garrard.  After his past month-ish in particular, Geno has earned himself the #3 job (with me giving Garrard the benefit of the doubt; even still he'd be #2 at best).  Like Sanchez, I don't see how anyone could argue that it isn't his recent draft status keeping him in there (plus QB isn't like other positions where you sub guys in & out, so a benching is more or less a permanent thing), but the QB play has been pretty awful.  I was 100% behind moving on from Sanchez and still think it was the right move (and drafting Smith so there are no questions, through another Sanchez-failure season, about how the f*DF#tH! could we have not taken Geno in round 2 with him just sitting there).  Anyway, it's quickly looking like another such move will be just as smart already.

 

Unfortunately it'll also looking like yet another Jets QB (Simms, when his time comes) getting a nod by default, as we've done for years now.  Hopefully this time it pays off when it happens.

 

And Rex did a horrid job of coaching and preparation.  If you're going to cancel the last team meeting for a Dave & Busters excursion, and even worse allow the public to know about it, you'd better make sure you win the f*cking game.  Westhoff had a great quickie-breakdown of the poor coaching during the game as well.  Guy looked positively befuddled.

 

 

It seems we agree. I see nothing from him.

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