neckdemon Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 lol....question was just asked if a qb needs to have a championship to be considered great. marino's face was priceless and then shannon sharpe says "you don't even get to be in the discussion if you don't have one". i think marino wanted to cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 lol....question was just asked if a qb needs to have a championship to be considered great. marino's face was priceless and then shannon sharpe says "you don't even get to be in the discussion if you don't have one". i think marino wanted to cry Marino is top 5 all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 lol....question was just asked if a qb needs to have a championship to be considered great. marino's face was priceless and then shannon sharpe says "you don't even get to be in the discussion if you don't have one". i think marino wanted to cry It's true, though. People already view Marino like they looked at Fouts. In ten, twenty years, people will remember Eli Manning as a better QB than him. It won't be true, but that's how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 I wish, think he decided to add a nickel on to every sh*tty pizza instead of killing himself. Crisis averted, now everyone can see a Dr. a day after eating his superior ingredients PoTW Crusher. Get on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 They have good QBs that are going to be great. Which is disheartening. Yes, but they're successful without great QB play, which is rare in the NFL these days. Not taking anything away from Wilson or Kaepernick, both are very good and one if not both will turn out to be great. But it's refreshing to see teams built around great defence still being successful. That is what the Jets should be aspiring to be, and I'm 100% convinced that if you gave this team a Wilson/Kaepernick and a half decent WR they'd still be playing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Boldin is still a beast in receiving game- i remember seeing him laid out a couple of years ago at Metlife from a hit by the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Boldin is still a beast in receiving game- i remember seeing him laid out a couple of years ago at Metlife from a hit by the Jets Eric "muther****ing" Smith. $50,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Or Santonio Holmes being elite. Point being...I think a lot of folks here overrate Jets talent(even the good players) because they don't watch other teams. Which Jets would even get on the field for the Niners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Point being...I think a lot of folks here overrate Jets talent(even the good players) because they don't watch other teams. Which Jets would even get on the field for the Niners? Plenty. But the question is, how much would it cost to get Kendall Hunter, (or a Bryce Brown)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Point being...I think a lot of folks here overrate Jets talent(even the good players) because they don't watch other teams. Which Jets would even get on the field for the Niners? I completely agree with you. The Jets Fan Bubble is a land of absurdity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Plenty. But the question is, how much would it cost to get Kendall Hunter, (or a Bryce Brown)? Why wouldnt you just tryand draft one later? (Bryce Brown sucks btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 There you have two good defensive teams in the NFC- balanced teams that are winners- not solely offensive teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Point being...I think a lot of folks here overrate Jets talent(even the good players) because they don't watch other teams. Which Jets would even get on the field for the Niners? Wilkerson and I forget the other guy, gotta give me a minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 There you have two good defensive teams in the NFC- balanced teams that are winners- not solely offensive teams Its been a while since the Championship round hasnt had a WC(assuming Peyton doesnt choke). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hopefully Denver pulls this out so they can stick the ball up Brady's ass next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Why wouldnt you just tryand draft one later? (Bryce Brown sucks btw) I like the idea of a "high money" running back. Hunter was 4th, Brown (who doesn't suck, btw) was a 7th. I think a back like Tre Mason, or Sankey Bishop could be our LeSean McCoy, and take some pressure off our lackluster passing attack. But trading a low 3rd/4th for a proven commodity to compliment our hamstrung backs would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Ron Rivera is a terrible football coach. The difference between the Patriots and 49ers and other franchises is insane....the Panthers had no idea what was going on in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Wilkerson and I forget the other guy, gotta give me a minute William Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I like the idea of a "high money" running back. Hunter was 4th, Brown (who doesn't suck, btw) was a 7th. I think a back like Tre Mason, or Sankey Bishop could be our LeSean McCoy, and take some pressure off our lackluster passing attack. But trading a low 3rd/4th for a proven commodity to compliment our hamstrung backs would be a good idea. Brown's strictly a speed guy and if he doesnt get the corner he's useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Go Denver -Manning vs Brady - you know Channel 2 wants that match next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 William Campbell. SO much better than Kenjon Barner, Andre Ellington, Baccari Rambo, Mike Catapano... smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 William Campbell. Don't laugh, he played D line in college which means our best scout was on the case. This year was all about the learning curve, next year Pro Bowl isn't a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Brown's strictly a speed guy and if he doesnt get the corner he's useless. Dude. He's like, the next big thing. 6'0, 220....NOT a speed guy. He's an inside runner, he's just fast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maJzY6tYzGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Don't laugh, he played D line in college which means our best scout was on the case. This year was all about the learning curve, next year Pro Bowl isn't a stretch. Campbell makes probowl before Wilkerson. Mark it. We drafted/signed nineteen guards, it's an obvious strength of our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Dude. He's like, the next big thing. 6'0, 220....NOT a speed guy. He's an inside runner, he's just fast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maJzY6tYzGg He had plenty of chances to get a significant role in that offense this season and couldnt. He's not that good...but yes if he gets the corner he can take it the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 He had plenty of chances to get a significant role in that offense this season and couldnt. He's not that good...but yes if he gets the corner he can take it the distance. Behind 'Shady'....no Behind 'Sunny Powell', he'd be an instant starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Behind 'Shady'....no Behind 'Sunny Powell', he'd be an instant starter. He wouldn't start over Ivory. How quickly you forget that Brown's touches are limited partly because of fumbling problems his rookie year. Is he a good blocker? Can he catch passes out of the backfield better than Powell or Goodson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 He wouldn't start over Ivory. No. He wouldn't. It would be a timeshare until Ivory pulls his thingie again. He could be a lead back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 No. He wouldn't. It would be a timeshare until Ivory pulls his thingie again. He could be a lead back though. Meh. If we're bringing in a new RB it's to either make the team as a 4th guy/practice squad guy OR as an upgrade at the starting spot. We don't need another complimentary back or RB2 type. Spend elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Good get rivers off his game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Good get rivers off his game Need the Broncos to win this. There's absolutely no chance of San Diego winning in Foxboro. The Pats knocking off the Broncos TWICE in a season, this time in Denver? Don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Meh. If we're bringing in a new RB it's to either make the team as a 4th guy/practice squad guy OR as an upgrade at the starting spot. We don't need another complimentary back or RB2 type. Low cost, starting potential. "Cheaper" than a 2nd or 3rd round pick, which is where you'd get an instant upgrade...More dependable than a gamble. I'm not selling my soul for Bryce friggin' Brown, I'm just saying there are backups in the league that could be starting for this team, and possibly had for similar compensation that we paid to get Ivory. Robert Turbin comes to mind. Bryce Brown, Kendall Hunter, Ben Tate is a FA, Roy Helu Jr., there's more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Need the Broncos to win this. There's absolutely no chance of San Diego winning in Foxboro. The Pats knocking off the Broncos TWICE in a season, this time in Denver? Don't see it. Yea I'd much rather have the Pats going to Denver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Need the Broncos to win this. There's absolutely no chance of San Diego winning in Foxboro. The Pats knocking off the Broncos TWICE in a season, this time in Denver? Don't see it. Agreed. Plus it fits the league's Brady vs. Manning agenda. however, if San Diego pulls this off, they become that "scary" team that wins games they shouldn't. Can't rule out the power of the sixth seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Low cost, starting potential. "Cheaper" than a 2nd or 3rd round pick, which is where you'd get an instant upgrade...More dependable than a gamble. I'm not selling my soul for Bryce friggin' Brown, I'm just saying there are backups in the league that could be starting for this team, and possibly had for similar compensation that we paid to get Ivory. Robert Turbin comes to mind. Bryce Brown, Kendall Hunter, Ben Tate is a FA, Roy Helu Jr., there's more. I'd rather take a late round gamble. RB is more or less a "plug and play" position so there's no sense in bringing in cheap free agents rather than using the draft. You know what you're gonna get out of a Bryce Brown. If we get a RB, we need him to potentially be a difference maker. Just because guys like Turbin, Brown, Hunter, etc COULD start is irrelevant. They HAVEN'T and they've had many changes to show that they're special, within the confines of very good offenses no less. They're decidedly NOT special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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