F.Chowds Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Beau Allen, DL, Wisconsin (EW) Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (COM) Odell Beckham, WR, LSU (COM) Bene Benwikere, CB, San Jose State (EW) Ted Bolser, TE, Indiana (EW) Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida (COM) Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson (SR#) John Brown, WR, Pittsburg State (EW) Carrington Byndom, CB, Texas (EW) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood (EW) Dakota Dozier, G, Furman (EW) Matt Feiler, OT, Bloomsburg (EW%) Phillip Gaines, CB, Rice (EW) Jimmy Garappolo%, QB, Eastern Illinois (COM) (SR) Ryan Groy, G, Wisconsin (EW) Matt Hazel, WR, Coastal Carolina (EW) Allen Hurns, WR, Miami (EW) Gabe Ikard, C, Oklahoma (EW) A.J. Marshall, S, Wake Forest (EW) Jeff Mathews, QB, Cornell (EW) Jordan Matthews%, WR, Vanderbilt (COM) (SR#) Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (COM) LaDarius Perkins, RB, Mississippi State (EW) Rashaad Reynolds, CB, Oregon St (EW) Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (COM) Prince Shembo, LB, Notre Dame (EW) Dez Southward, DB, Wisconsin (PRO) Tyler Starr, LB, South Dakota (EW) James Stone, C, Tennessee (EW) Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson (COM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 This one scares me the most Jeff Mathews, QB, Cornell (EW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 No Manziel? Clearly misdirection on Idzik's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 No Marqise Lee, but Mettenberger, Garopollo, Bortles. Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 This one scares me the most Jeff Mathews, QB, Cornell (EW) 6'4" 235, a cannon for an arm. SLEEPER of the draft. 5th or 6th round GEM. BOOK IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 6'4" 235, a cannon for an arm. SLEEPER of the draft. 5th or 6th round GEM. BOOK IT. No one books anything you say. BOOK IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 No Marqise Lee, but Mettenberger, Garopollo, Bortles. Interesting I can't tell if this is schedule up-coming meetings or meetings at the combine. If it were the latter, each team can only meet with 60 players and it only lasts for 15 minutes max, so it's quite possible they plan on have a lengthier interview in the future or they've already gotten enough where 15 minutes wasn't going to help. If I've learned anything the last ten or so years following the draft, it's that interviewing a player at the senior bowl, combine or official interviews at the facility don't necessarily mean much, but the positions usually do. It's not exactly a bold statement, but I'd be very surprised if they didn't come away with at least one WR, CB, OG, Center (probably the only slightly bold statement on there) and QB this draft. I know BPA, but these have been the positions that they've been sniffing around all season and now off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Chowds Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 I can't tell if this is schedule up-coming meetings or meetings at the combine. If it were the latter, each team can only meet with 60 players and it only lasts for 15 minutes max, so it's quite possible they plan on have a lengthier interview in the future or they've already gotten enough where 15 minutes wasn't going to help. If I've learned anything the last ten or so years following the draft, it's that interviewing a player at the senior bowl, combine or official interviews at the facility don't necessarily mean much, but the positions usually do. It's not exactly a bold statement, but I'd be very surprised if they didn't come away with at least one WR, CB, OG, Center (probably the only slightly bold statement on there) and QB this draft. I know BPA, but these have been the positions that they've been sniffing around all season and now off-season. This is a compilation of draft prospect meetings sorted by team. The data was acquired via Charlie Campbell (@draftcampbell) and other media sources. SR - Senior Bowl meeting. EW - East-West Shrine meeting. COM - Combine meeting. INT - Interested. VINT - Very Interested. PRO - Pro Day meeting. PRI - Private Workout. % - indicates more than one meeting. # - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2014 Senior Bowl or the 2014 East-West Shrine Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Was hoping to see Dee Ford on that list. If we traded down to mid 20's, I'd be all for getting this guy. If we won't be addressing OLB in FA, I'd like to come away with 1 Pass Rusher who can punish the QB. I know Pace had 10 sacks, but I want to see a freight train (LT style) punishing the QB, stripping the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Anybody keep track of our past drafts and if this is any indication of who we end up picking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 6'4" 235, a cannon for an arm. SLEEPER of the draft. 5th or 6th round GEM. BOOK IT. This is the reason Mathews scares me. Could you imagine all the hell we will have to go through in camp if the Jets took him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Anybody keep track of our past drafts and if this is any indication of who we end up picking? New Gm. What Tanny did means squat. Only have one draft to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If I've learned anything the last ten or so years following the draft, it's that interviewing a player at the senior bowl, combine or official interviews at the facility don't necessarily mean much Right, right, and way wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 No one books anything you say. BOOK IT. Fishing, and Ozzie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 New Gm. What Tanny did means squat. Only have one draft to look at. Bradway is still here, could mean something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 This is the reason Mathews scares me. Could you imagine all the hell we will have to go through in camp if the Jets took him? If they come to Cortland, 10 minutes from where I live and 5 minutes from my golf course, guarantees the following if they draft my boy Jeff Matthews: 1. 18 holes of golf with the following foursome: Myself and Matthews Vs. REX and GENO We will give them 3 a side 2. A cold 30 pack Of Rocky Mountain refreshment for each 9 3. Free Matthew Jersey's to anyone from JN who comes to Cortland 4. Autographs from Myself and Jeff, no one wants Rex's or Geno's autograph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 They interviewed Phillip Gaines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hmm No Ebron on this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Right, right, and way wrong. Yea, I lumped the official visits in with the rest, they're usually more meaningful than the others, but you still interview 30ish non-local guys, so it's not that surprising that you end up drafting some of them. There were reports we were crazy high on Dion Jordan, Zac Dysert and Margus Hunt after the official visits, but it never manifested. I more meant this is people should temper their expectations after every report of an official visit they see, because the majority of the time it's just the doing their due diligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If the Jets draft Matthews- joewillie will buy out MolsonCoors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yea, I lumped the official visits in with the rest, they're usually more meaningful than the others, but you still interview 30ish non-local guys, so it's not that surprising that you end up drafting some of them. There were reports we were crazy high on Dion Jordan, Zac Dysert and Margus Hunt after the official visits, but it never manifested. I more meant this is people should temper their expectations after every report of an official visit they see, because the majority of the time it's just the doing their due diligence. I think you can see a trend developing where they're being aggressive with some early-round QBs, though. I think that's notable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 This is a compilation of draft prospect meetings sorted by team. The data was acquired via Charlie Campbell (@draftcampbell) and other media sources. SR - Senior Bowl meeting. EW - East-West Shrine meeting. COM - Combine meeting. INT - Interested. VINT - Very Interested. PRO - Pro Day meeting. PRI - Private Workout. % - indicates more than one meeting. # - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2014 Senior Bowl or the 2014 East-West Shrine Game Interesting, good find. I know part of it is subjective, as the interested or not is based on the players opinion correct? Regardless, it's certainly nice seeing them bring in Matthews more than once, although I could do without ever seeing Tahj Boyd as a Jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 No Marqise Lee, but Mettenberger, Garopollo, Bortles. Interesting They interviewed Jordan Matthews multiple times. "%" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think you can see a trend developing where they're being aggressive with some early-round QBs, though. I think that's notable. Definitely, that's more the point I was going after. You see trends in the type of player that they're interested in, not necessarily the specific player they're going to walk away with. It's why I think we're going to see Mangold's replacement drafted soon, as they've been sniffing around that one for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 And you have Watkins- who will be long gone before the Jets draft- so you take this with reservations to read into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 They interviewed Jordan Matthews multiple times. "%" Also interesting, I suppose. Lee isn't supposed to be the sharpest of tacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 This one scares me the most Jeff Mathews, QB, Cornell (EW) no T. boyd this guy screams bust!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Definitely, that's more the point I was going after. You see trends in the type of player that they're interested in, not necessarily the specific player they're going to walk away with. It's why I think we're going to see Mangold's replacement drafted soon, as they've been sniffing around that one for a while. No doubt. I'm wondering if Idzik is going to use this cap space and these picks to really clean house as opposed to load up for a short run. Could be some surprise cuts coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 No doubt. I'm wondering if Idzik is going to use this cap space and these picks to really clean house as opposed to load up for a short run. Could be some surprise cuts coming. If you go over to Jason's site and while I can't speak on Mangold off the top of my head, but I believe it follows suit, Brick's contract makes it pretty prohibitory to cut him the next two years and then the following two seasons ('15 and '16) you can save something like $30 million combined with only $5ish million in dead money. If their play starts to decline even more rapidly, I would be surprised if we don't draft their backup this year or next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 No lee, Ebron, cooks, or Evans is a little surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Final tally: WR: 6 CB: 6 QB: 5 OL: 5 (2 OGs, 2 OTs, 1 C) LB: 3 TE: 2 S: 1 RB: 1 DL: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 If you go over to Jason's site and while I can't speak on Mangold off the top of my head, but I believe it follows suit, Brick's contract makes it pretty prohibitory to cut him the next two years and then the following two seasons ('15 and '16) you can save something like $30 million combined with only $5ish million in dead money. If their play starts to decline even more rapidly, I would be surprised if we don't draft their backup this year or next. I always wonder how Jason decided to get after all this information. The guy has a day job, for God's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Here's a few tidbits that I've found: - 21 of this year’s 32 first-round picks visited or privately worked out for the team that drafted them. One notable outlier was Seahawks tackle James Carpenter. “We tried staying under the radar with this guy,” Seattle G.M. John Schneider confirmed during Carpenter’s introductory press conference. “I told our group … we were very proud of them that his name never got out.” The Seahawks rated Carpenter as the No. 2 offensive lineman in the entire draft. List of last year's official visits (they really were hard-up looking at Safeties it seems. Moreso that I would have guessed.) Player--------------------Position--------------------School Alex Carder----------------QB--------------------Western Michigan Armonty Bryant------------DE-------------------- East Central University Brandon McGee-----------CB--------------------Miami Chance Warmack----------G--------------------Alabama Christine Michael----------RB --------------------Texas A&M Cordarrelle Patterson ----WR--------------------Tennessee Dee Milliner-----------------CB -------------------- Alabama Dion Jordan----------------DE--------------------Oregon D.J. Swearinger-------------S-------------------- South Carolina Earl Wolff-------------------- S--------------North Carolina State E.J. Manuel------------------QB-------------------- Florida State Geno Smith------------------QB-------------------- West Virginia Jakar Hamilton---------------S-------------------- South Carolina State Joe Kruger--------------------DE-------------------- Utah Jonathan Cyprien------------S--------------------Florida International Josh Evans------------------- S-------------------- Florida Kenny Vaccaro---------------S-------------------- Texas Knile Davis ------------------RB--------------------Arkansas Lane Johnson---------------OT-------------------- Oklahoma Le'Veon Bell-----------------RB-------------------- Michigan State Logan Ryan-----------------DB-------------------- Rutgers Margus Hunt---------------- DE-------------------- SMU Matt Elam--------------------S-------------------- Florida Oday Aboushi--------------OT-------------------- Virginia Robert Woods-------------WR-------------------- USC Star Lotulelei----------------NT -------------------- Utah Tavon Austin---------------WR-------------------- West Virginia Travis Chappelear----------DE-------------------- Northwest Missouri State Will Campbell----------------DT--------------------Michigan Zac Dysert--------------------QB--------------------Miami (OH) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I always wonder how Jason decided to get after all this information. The guy has a day job, for God's sake. Yea, he and Nick have done a phenomenal job with that website and the time to set that thing up is way more than a hobby, it's extremely impressive. I'm gonna start saying my goodbyes when residency starts, because unlike others, I require adequate sleep to function throughout the day, which doesn't necessarily bode well for the surgical profession I want to go into. I'm gonna need to learn to drink coffee or take up cocaine. I'm on the fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 If you go over to Jason's site and while I can't speak on Mangold off the top of my head, but I believe it follows suit, Brick's contract makes it pretty prohibitory to cut him the next two years and then the following two seasons ('15 and '16) you can save something like $30 million combined with only $5ish million in dead money. If their play starts to decline even more rapidly, I would be surprised if we don't draft their backup this year or next. I wonder if that was - to an extent - the purpose of building up all of those comp picks last year. Obviously it's way too early to tell, but it seems like Idzik is a GM who has a long-term plan as opposed to handling things year to year like Tannenbaum did (restructure guys to get cap space, hit the market, fill needs, repeat). I'd love to see if if they use some of those mid-round picks to draft replacements for guys. You alluded to it with Mangold and Brick. We may have already seen him do it drafting Campbell and Aboushi late with Colon a one year guy and Howard set to hit FA. That's the way to build a good team - there's quality depth and younger guys are ready to step in once more veteran players leave - already have experience in the scheme, probably some snaps, and weren't huge investments. If they bust then that's something to revisit in a future offseason. David Harris is a FA after next season, has lost a step, and plays a position that's not all that valuable. Spend a mid-rounder on an ILB who's likely - with all of the multiple receiver sets and the investments in the front 7 (how often are Coples, Wilkerson, Richardson, and Davis going to come off the field - plus sub-package rushers like Barnes and pass rushers like whoever's playing OLB across from Coples going forward) - a two down guy and not all that critical of a piece. Then next season hopefully the guy is just ready to step in to that small role and they're not scrambling to address it or wasting cap space or an early round selection making sure they have a guy who's ready to start, even though the way the team is structured the new ILB's role might not be huge. Similar situation with Pace and the OLB spot across from Coples too - only I could see investing more of a premium selection on an outside linebacker since if you get a good one . Corner to develop if they re-sign Cro to a deal where he's cuttable if his decline continues and last year wasn't just because of the nagging hip injury. Center I could see since it's been so bad when Mangold's out that IMO having good depth there is important - just make sure it's a guy who can flip to guard if necessary too. Tackle is maybe a year early if Brick's not cuttable for a couple of years, but maybe I misinterpreted - I wouldn't mind if they did though. Would be nice to see the team have some foresight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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