#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I used to feel compelled to read every word of every post in the football forum. Those days are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Bring Sanchez back for no more than $3 mil or let him walk. Let him compete with Geno, a vet, and at least one draft pick. 3 Mill for that bum? Please, hot dogs are like a $1.50, and that beret is bout 6 bucks. $7.50, take it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I used to feel compelled to read every word of every post in the football forum. Those days are gone. 9 years ago i stopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 9 years ago i stopped I always read everything you write Frank. It's like you pay to post by the character and capital letters are extra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I always read everything you write Frank. It's like you pay to post by the character and capital letters are extra! hah I get to the point -no one wants to read a novel of a post. Besides I am also supposedly working a real job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Definitely competition. He hasn't come close to earning a no-competition offseason. Even though he gets fewer first-team snaps, that's too bad. Then he should win the competition early if that is a problem to be resolved. my concern is if we do bring in a stop gap vet that beats out geno, but still think geno can be the guy eventually, what happens in 2 years when the vet leaves and geno still can't cut it? almost feel that if we bring in a vet and he beats out geno, we probably need to look at 2015 draft for the QB of the future, otherwise we might have to wait 4 more years to take our next shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 hah I get to the point -no one wants to read a novel of a post. Besides I am also supposedly working a real job. I have the day off. Alternative Work Schedule FTMFW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I used to feel compelled to read every word of every post in the football forum. Those days are gone. Were this true, you'd have been dead a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I used to feel compelled to read every word of every post in the football forum. Those days are gone. Influenced heavily by your ability to interpret gifs and imgs, no doubt. They kinda put it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 my concern is if we do bring in a stop gap vet that beats out geno, but still think geno can be the guy eventually, what happens in 2 years when the vet leaves and geno still can't cut it? almost feel that if we bring in a vet and he beats out geno, we probably need to look at 2015 draft for the QB of the future, otherwise we might have to wait 4 more years to take our next shot. I think that if a stop-gap vet wins the competition, and keeps the the job for the season, that the Jets will definitely be looking to take a QB high in 2015. I wouldn't be concerned at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 my concern is if we do bring in a stop gap vet that beats out geno, but still think geno can be the guy eventually, what happens in 2 years when the vet leaves and geno still can't cut it? almost feel that if we bring in a vet and he beats out geno, we probably need to look at 2015 draft for the QB of the future, otherwise we might have to wait 4 more years to take our next shot. You basically answered your own concerns. If you have to worry about a Vet coming in and beating out Geno, then basically you are admitting that Geno isn't the guy. Otherwise, you would simply be stating that NO vet could come in and beat out Geno. The mere fact that you are proposing it indicates that your confidence as it should be is extremely low in Geno. Too bad for Geno if he cant beat out what most posters are calling the FA crop of QB's this year as basically Garbage. IF we don't draft a REAL QB this year, we will certainly be drafting one next year. BOOK IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I think that if a stop-gap vet wins the competition, and keeps the the job for the season, that the Jets will definitely be looking to take a QB high in 2015. I wouldn't be concerned at all. You basically answered your own concerns. If you have to worry about a Vet coming in and beating out Geno, then basically you are admitting that Geno isn't the guy. Otherwise, you would simply be stating that NO vet could come in and beat out Geno. The mere fact that you are proposing it indicates that your confidence as it should be is extremely low in Geno. Too bad for Geno if he cant beat out what most posters are calling the FA crop of QB's this year as basically Garbage. IF we don't draft a REAL QB this year, we will certainly be drafting one next year. BOOK IT. yeah i don't see a way to go halfway. if geno gets beat, he probably has no future here as starter barring injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 yeah i don't see a way to go halfway. if geno gets beat, he probably has no future here as starter barring injury BINGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 yeah i don't see a way to go halfway. if geno gets beat, he probably has no future here as starter barring injury If Geno gets "beat," consider who it is picking the winner. Hint: he's dumb and has a one-year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 If Geno gets "beat," consider who it is picking the winner. Hint: he's dumb and has a one-year contract POTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 If Geno gets "beat," consider who it is picking the winner. Hint: he's dumb and has a one-year contract well played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 my concern is if we do bring in a stop gap vet that beats out geno, but still think geno can be the guy eventually, what happens in 2 years when the vet leaves and geno still can't cut it? almost feel that if we bring in a vet and he beats out geno, we probably need to look at 2015 draft for the QB of the future, otherwise we might have to wait 4 more years to take our next shot. Probably? 90% or better chance you'd be right. There's also a chance he gets beaten out by a vet for whom the light just went on. Just saying that it's not a given that he could only lose a competition by being lousy. Also there's still a very good chance that we have every intention of starting Geno, and bring in a veteran and a mid-round or lower rookie, and that rookie wins the job and is actually pretty good. There may be qualifiers for any end-result. Predicting the destination doesn't necessarily mean the road conditions were as predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 If Geno gets "beat," consider who it is picking the winner. Hint: he's dumb and has a one-year contract Oooooh, look how clever you think you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Briefly, "Well, Prince, so Genoa and Lucca are now just family estates of the Buonapartes. But I warn you, if you don't tell me that this means war, if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend, no longer my 'faithful slave,' as you call yourself! But how do you do? I see I have frightened you- sit down and tell me all the news." It was in July, 1805, and the speaker was the well-known Anna Pavlovna Scherer, maid of honor and favorite of the Empress Marya Fedorovna. With these words she greeted Prince Vasili Kuragin, a man of high rank and importance, who was the first to arrive at her reception. Anna Pavlovna had had a cough for some days. She was, as she said, suffering from la grippe; grippe being then a new word in St. Petersburg, used only by the elite. All her invitations without exception, written in French, and delivered by a scarlet-liveried footman that morning, ran as follows: "If you have nothing better to do, Count [or Prince], and if the prospect of spending an evening with a poor invalid is not too terrible, I shall be very charmed to see you tonight between 7 and 10- Annette Scherer." "Heavens! what a virulent attack!" replied the prince, not in the least disconcerted by this reception. He had just entered, wearing an embroidered court uniform, knee breeches, and shoes, and had stars on his breast and a serene expression on his flat face. He spoke in that refined French in which our grandfathers not only spoke but thought, and with the gentle, patronizing intonation natural to a man of importance who had grown old in society and at court. He went up to Anna Pavlovna, kissed her hand, presenting to her his bald, scented, and shining head, and complacently seated himself on the sofa. "First of all, dear friend, tell me how you are. Set your friend's mind at rest," said he without altering his tone, beneath the politeness and affected sympathy of which indifference and even irony could be discerned. "Can one be well while suffering morally? Can one be calm in times like these if one has any feeling?" said Anna Pavlovna. "You are staying the whole evening, I hope?" "And the fete at the English ambassador's? Today is Wednesday. I must put in an appearance there," said the prince. "My daughter is coming for me to take me there." "I thought today's fete had been canceled. I confess all these festivities and fireworks are becoming wearisome." "If they had known that you wished it, the entertainment would have been put off," said the prince, who, like a wound-up clock, by force of habit said things he did not even wish to be believed. "Don't tease! Well, and what has been decided about Novosiltsev's dispatch? You know everything." "What can one say about it?" replied the prince in a cold, listless tone. "What has been decided? They have decided that Buonaparte has burnt his boats, and I believe that we are ready to burn ours." Prince Vasili always spoke languidly, like an actor repeating a stale part. Anna Pavlovna Scherer on the contrary, despite her forty years, overflowed with animation and impulsiveness. To be an enthusiast had become her social vocation and, sometimes even when she did not feel like it, she became enthusiastic in order not to disappoint the expectations of those who knew her. The subdued smile which, though it did not suit her faded features, always played round her lips expressed, as in a spoiled child, a continual consciousness of her charming defect, which she neither wished, nor could, nor considered it necessary, to correct. In the midst of a conversation on political matters Anna Pavlovna burst out: "Oh, don't speak to me of Austria. Perhaps I don't understand things, but Austria never has wished, and does not wish, for war. She is betraying us! Russia alone must save Europe. Our gracious sovereign recognizes his high vocation and will be true to it. That is the one thing I have faith in! Our good and wonderful sovereign has to perform the noblest role on earth, and he is so virtuous and noble that God will not forsake him. He will fulfill his vocation and crush the hydra of revolution, which has become more terrible than ever in the person of this murderer and villain! We alone must avenge the blood of the just one.... Whom, I ask you, can we rely on?... England with her commercial spirit will not and cannot understand the Emperor Alexander's loftiness of soul. She has refused to evacuate Malta. She wanted to find, and still seeks, some secret motive in our actions. What answer did Novosiltsev get? None. The English have not understood and cannot understand the self-abnegation of our Emperor who wants nothing for himself, but only desires the good of mankind. And what have they promised? Nothing! And what little they have promised they will not perform! Prussia has always declared that Buonaparte is invincible, and that all Europe is powerless before him.... And I don't believe a word that Hardenburg says, or Haugwitz either. This famous Prussian neutrality is just a trap. I have faith only in God and the lofty destiny of our adored monarch. He will save Europe!" She suddenly paused, smiling at her own impetuosity. LOL Great post. If only you had been born in the 19th century. You would have been a star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I have been a Jets fan since I was knee high and I will always bleed green until the day I die!! But one has to speak out when year after year, decade after decade you watch the same coach after coach making one dumb decision after another. Wouldn't you know it that majority of the time these decisions that I'm referring to are about the QB position. I can start with the Jets QB roller coaster ride beginning in the 70's but then this article would take forever to write. So let's jump ahead to when the Jets brought in Favre. Instead of the Jets going out and finding an Aaron Rodgers they sign an worn out veteran that was released because of his stats were rapidly going down. Result of this decision, 8-8 No Playoffs. The next season the Jets finally used their brains and drafted Mark Sanchez. Sanchez in his first two seasons took the Jets to the AFC Championship Games. How great that was. Then between his second and third season the Jets Offensive line went from being the best in the NFL to the pretty much worse in the league. With this happening Sanchez's ability to play was nonexistent. Seriously, how can you expect a QB to do his job when the Offensive line couldn't give him any time for a play to develop? During Sanchez's third and fourth seasons, I bet that any high school football team could have ran right through the Jets Offensive line. (Except for Nick Mangold. That man is a machine.) So instead of doing what was needed to fix the problem to help Sanchez get back on track, the Jets like the media blame Sanchez and then the Jets decide the answer is, let's sign another QB. That will fix the problem. I guess who needs a Offensive line. Anyway, this is when the Jets brought in Tim Tebow. Which the whole Tebow thing still confuses me. To be a QB don't you have to be able to throw a football? I guess not but either way the Jets once again go out and sign a QB that 1, wasn't what they needed to fix the team, and 2, signed a player that really didn't have good statistics at all. Do they never learn a lesson? At least Favre was a legend for his play in Green Bay but Tebow? Give me a break. He never was and never would be a QB in the NFL. So once again the Jets bring in a QB(or lack there of) and nothing came of that decision. Especially when they had a QB that has shown with protection he can play. Now, they finally bought a clue and did some repair work to the Offensive line which then Sanchez would be able to do his job. But the Jets once again instead of getting what they really needed like tall, fast receivers in the draft they go after another QB. So now they drafted a cocky, big mouth, wanna be a QB named Geno Smith. Well it wasn't much of a surprise that with a improved Offensive line Sanchez during preseason looked like the Sanchez from his first two seasons while Smith looked like he didn't have a clue. It was obvious that Sanchez was going to be behind the center for the season opener. Until Rex Ryan decides it was a good decision to put in who was hands down the best QB on the roster in the fourth quarter of a preseason game. Which much of no surprise Sanchez got hit by some over zealous kid trying to earn a spot in the NFL ending Sanchez's season. Now here we are again during the off season and what are the Jets doing yet again? Let's bring in another has been veteran QB. Do they never learn?!!! Bringing in Michael Vick is just another big mistake like bringing in Favre and Tebow. What is even worse is that they in doing this are going to keep Smith and release Sanchez. Now this is where I am getting angry with the Jets and their poor decisions. I know that the Sanchez has made his share of mistakes during his third and forth seasons, like the infamous butt fumble, and he has thrown a lot of int's and fumble the ball too many times but if he had any kind of protection at all or maybe just a little bit of time after hiking the ball instead of running to try avoid being sacked, maybe his playing and his stat's wouldn't be as bad as they are. I really think that under the circumstances Sanchez did all he could to try and win games for the Jets. I also strongly believe that if it was Peyton Manning that was playing instead of Sanchez behind The Offensive line during those two seasons the outcome wouldn't be any better then what Sanchez did. This is how much it was Sanchez's fault, during the 2012 season week 16 the Jets played San Diego and for that game Rex Ryan decided to bench Sanchez and start Greg McElroy. Needless to say Poor McElroy spent most the game on the ground from being sacked. I still remember that at one point McElroy was sacked six times in a row over two Offensive possessions for the Jets. That had to be one of the worst display's I think I have ever saw in my life. McElroy was hit so many times during that game that his shoulder was torn up really bad. So bad that he is no longer a player in the NFL. My point is that obviously Sanchez is not and was not the reason for the Jets having bad seasons during those two seasons. So for the Jets to release him and put the future of the team in the hands of Smith or Vick is a decision that is going to wind up with the Jets looking like the Jets of the late 80's and early 90's. I'm sure that Jets fans can remember those seasons. The 3-13 and the 4-12 records year after year. I will still cheer and bleed green without a doubt but why does this have to happen? Actually it doesn't have to happen and it starts with 1, forget about the whole Vick becoming a Jet, he is not going to help bring the Jets where we all want them to be. 2, realize that Smith is not who or what you thought he was going to be when you drafted him. At least not yet. Let him watch and learn for a little while and who knows maybe he can eventually be a good QB. 3, forget about the two seasons Sanchez didn't play up to expectations because like I already explained it really wasn't his fault that the Offensive line played like a bunch of high school kids and didn't protect him at all. I know "what about the salary cap and Sanchez's current contract?" which brings me to number 4, sit down with Sanchez and discuss the idea of reworking his contract so that he can remain a Jet and the Jets can free up some space under the cap. Sanchez has already proven that he is a team player by reworking his contract once before so I believe he wouldn't mind doing it again. Then come preseason, like last season, let Sanchez and Smith compete for the right to be the starting QB come week 1. I think that this scenario is the best approach for the Jets. Bringing in a worn out injury plagued QB such as Vick is not only a bad decision but it is only going to end up like things did with Favre and Tebow, another season that the Jets don't make the post season. As for Smith, he did not in any way last season show that he is a good enough QB to get the Jets to the big game. He still has a lot of learning and growing up to do if he is ever going to get the Jets there. I still have nightmares over the game Smith tried to change hands with the football in our end zone while he was being sacked. He's really just not ready to be a starting QB in the NFL. Sanchez is the best option that the Jets have to get us to the big game. These are my thoughts and opinions on the whole Jets QB problem. What do you think is the best approach for the Jets and their QB issues? If you are going to post a comment please post comments or whatever that opens insight and not childish comments. KEEP SANCHEZ AND FORGET ABOUT VICK!!!! **AZJETSFAN** Quite possibly the most unreadable and dumbest post I have read in a long. Sanchez was the worst QB in football his last two seasons and statistically the worst QB EVER after 4 years of play at QB. He sucked in preseason, and looked like exactly the same QB he is always was which is terrible. Geno despite a horrific middle season was still better than Sanchez in any year that Sanchez ever played except for 2010. And Geno had a worse OL and terrible skill players significantly less than the talent Sanchez has had. And he was a rookie. Even considering for a millisecond not only keeping Sanchez but starting him is in it's own world of stupidity. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 This is the problem with the jets they can't figure out who the QB is ! If ur Saunders or decker or any other FA. How do u come here without knowing who the QB is when they have better options that can pay them also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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