neckdemon Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Step 1. Get yourself a franchise qb at all costs Step 2. Profit for the next decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Bill: Ted, while I agree that, in time, our band will be most triumphant. The truth is, Wyld Stallyns will never be a super band until we have Eddie Van Halen on guitar. Ted: Yes, Bill. But, I do not believe we will get Eddie Van Halen until we have a triumphant video. Bill: Ted, it's pointless to have a triumphant video before we even have decent instruments. Ted: Well, how can we have decent instruments when we don't really even know how to play? Bill: That is why we NEED Eddie Van Halen! Ted: And THAT is why we need a triumphant video. Bill, Ted: EXCELLENT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Bill: Ted, while I agree that, in time, our band will be most triumphant. The truth is, Wyld Stallyns will never be a super band until we have Eddie Van Halen on guitar. Ted: Yes, Bill. But, I do not believe we will get Eddie Van Halen until we have a triumphant video. Bill: Ted, it's pointless to have a triumphant video before we even have decent instruments. Ted: Well, how can we have decent instruments when we don't really even know how to play? Bill: That is why we NEED Eddie Van Halen! Ted: And THAT is why we need a triumphant video. Bill, Ted: EXCELLENT! you are proving my point. give eddie van halen a fender squire and he's gonna play the sh*t out of it. give your team joe Montana, or peyton manning and you have a team that will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 You literally cannot overpay for a true franchise qb. 20 million? Okie dokie here ya go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 you are proving my point. give eddie van halen a fender squire and he's gonna play the sh*t out of it. give your team joe Montana, or peyton manning and you have a team that will win It's not like either of those guys have ever been available though. :shoots self: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 You literally cannot overpay for a true franchise qb. 20 million? Okie dokie here ya go It can be a problem if that $20MM QB is a quote artist though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 It's not like either of those guys have ever been available though. :shoots self: well obviously. my point here is that until you find a franchise qb you continue looking for one relentlessly. you don't go about your business as if your team isn't good enough yet to get the franchise qb yet. obviously its not as easily done as it is said. but you don't rest until you find him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If the Jets would have got Peyton Manning over Denver then Rex Ryan is considered one of the best HC's in the league and Jeremy Kerley is an all-pro. They are everything. The NFL has killed the importance of anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Step 1. Get yourself a franchise qb at all costs Step 2. Profit for the next decade or get him via free agency like Drew Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If the Jets would have got Peyton Manning over Denver then Rex Ryan is considered one of the best HC's in the league and Jeremy Kerley is an all-pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If the Jets would have got Peyton Manning over Denver then Rex Ryan is considered one of the best HC's in the league and Jeremy Kerley is an all-pro. They are everything. The NFL has killed the importance of anything else. True. All of it. Hell qb so important even when you have the man you should still draft another in first 3 rounds each year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It can be a problem if that $20MM QB is a quote artist though. Have no idea what that means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Without legitimate WRs a franchise QB wont matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Without legitimate WRs a franchise QB wont matter Brady last year, Peyton manning turned Austin collie into pro bowler, any of saints WR are JAGs on a team with an average qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Someone told me, shortly after Manning was released, that Sanchez was better. So, there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If the Jets would have got Peyton Manning over Denver then Rex Ryan is considered one of the best HC's in the league and Jeremy Kerley is an all-pro. They are everything. The NFL has killed the importance of anything else. lol Peyton Manning is an overrated, stat-padding choke artist who looks great against bottom feeders than goes one-and-done in the post season when its time for big boy football. Also, he doesn't have the balls to come to Brady and Belichick's division. Believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 JETS do get a potential franchise QB almost every 4 years or so. But they can never develop them into a franchise QB. So its not the getting part JETS have trouble with BUT its the developing part that they have no clue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Someone told me, shortly after Manning was released, that Sanchez was better. So, there's that. That's what must have made the JETS "pass" on Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Brady last year, Peyton manning turned Austin collie into pro bowler, any of saints WR are JAGs on a team with an average qb. What did Brady or Manning win last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 What did Brady or Manning win last year? Is this a serious retort? My friend, those guys put their team in position to make a run every year. Not winning the Super Bowl in one year is hardly an indictment. What a silly notion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 or get him via free agency like Drew Brees free agency falls under the umbrella of "at all costs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Without legitimate WRs a franchise QB wont matter so you are telling me that if an Andrew luck caliber qb is sitting there for us at this years draft your opinion would be to pass him up because we don't have good enough receivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Is this a serious retort? My friend, those guys put their team in position to make a run every year. Not winning the Super Bowl in one year is hardly an indictment. What a silly notion. Yes did you notice the demise in New England it isn't Brady he has terrible WRs if it weren't for Gronkowski he would be bad. Sanchez made 2 runs 2009-2010 where is he now? What's silly is expecting Geno to carry this team when he cant and wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 so you are telling me that if an Andrew luck caliber qb is sitting there for us at this years draft your opinion would be to pass him up because we don't have good enough receivers? Don't get qb until you have weapons, and don't get weapons until you have a qb. The wheels on the crazy bus go round and round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 so you are telling me that if an Andrew luck caliber qb is sitting there for us at this years draft your opinion would be to pass him up because we don't have good enough receivers? Nope but better provide him with decent WRs not Idzik scrap heap guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 JETS do get a potential franchise QB almost every 4 years or so. But they can never develop them into a franchise QB. So its not the getting part JETS have trouble with BUT its the developing part that they have no clue about. franchise qb's are not really developed. its in their dna already. drafting a qb early doesn't make him a real potential franchise qb. it just makes him a hopeful. problem is the jets suck at drafting qb's ever since joe Namath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yes did you notice the demise in New England it isn't Brady he has terrible WRs if it weren't for Gronkowski he would be bad. Sanchez made 2 runs 2009-2010 where is he now? What's silly is expecting Geno to carry this team when he cant and wont. Lol you think I am a geno fan? I wouldn't trust him to throw a game if he took a bribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Don't get qb until you have weapons, and don't get weapons until you have a qb. The wheels on the crazy bus go round and round. its a ridiculous way to look at it. you get the franchise qb and then you do 2 things. 1. you build a great o-line to protect your decade long dynasty creator 1a. you get him weapons to throw the ball to and hand it off to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 lol Peyton Manning is an overrated, stat-padding choke artist who looks great against bottom feeders than goes one-and-done in the post season when its time for big boy football. Also, he doesn't have the balls to come to Brady and Belichick's division. Believe that. Re-evaluate your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 What did Brady or Manning win last year? That would be zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If you're in the midst of figuring out your QB situation you have to make sure your offensive line is good. One bad wheel can ruin the entire operation. We've ignored the oline for a while now. We havent drafted a decent lineman since the 06 draft....and Brick and Mangold aren't nearly the players they once were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If you're in the midst of figuring out your QB situation you have to make sure your offensive line is good. One bad wheel can ruin the entire operation. We've ignored the oline for a while now. We havent drafted a decent lineman since the 06 draft....and Brick and Mangold aren't nearly the players they once were. I wonder what pete kendall is up to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 franchise qb's are not really developed. its in their dna already. drafting a qb early doesn't make him a real potential franchise qb. it just makes him a hopeful. problem is the jets suck at drafting qb's ever since joe Namath. I am sure they have to have to be born with natural talent but lets not say coaching staff does not play a role in developing a QB. And its quiet different from what JETS coaching staff usually does and that is destroy any shred of confidence the QB might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 JETS do get a potential franchise QB almost every 4 years or so. But they can never develop them into a franchise QB. So its not the getting part JETS have trouble with BUT its the developing part that they have no clue about. Franchise QBs don't require much help. You are overstating the coaches value. If what you're saying is true, then Belichick should've had himself about 10 all pro QBs. Outside of Brady, his best QB is Matt Cassell, a journeyman at best. You need a lot of luck to go with evaluations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 its a ridiculous way to look at it. you get the franchise qb and then you do 2 things. 1. you build a great o-line to protect your decade long dynasty creator 1a. you get him weapons to throw the ball to and hand it off to. Agreed 100%. That's why I was hoping for Kelvin in the first or Jordan Mathews in the 2nd. Either of those picks could've turned this offense into an above average offense. Watkins was my pipe dream but he was out of range. Wasn't too high on Cooks but he's playing pretty good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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