DaBallhawk Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Good job sh*tzik & Tanny. Thanks for nothing you bums. Team Round Compensated Free Agent Avg./Year NE 3 Aqib Talib $9,500,000 KC 3 Branden Albert $9,400,000 CIN 3 Michael Johnson $8,750,000 SF 4 Donte Whitner $7,000,000 DEN 4 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie $7,000,000 BAL 4 Arthur Jones $6,600,000 SEA 4 Golden Tate $6,200,000 SEA 5 Brandon Browner $5,050,000 CAR 5 Mike Mitchell $5,000,000 BAL 5 Michael Oher $5,000,000 KC 5 Tyson Jackson $5,000,000 SEA 5 Breno Giacomini $4,500,000 KC 5 Jon Asamoah $4,500,000 HOU 5 Antonio Smith $4,500,000 BAL 6 Corey Graham $4,075,000 HOU 6 Earl Mitchell $4,000,000 PIT 6 Ziggy Hood $4,000,000 GB 6 Evan Dietrich-Smith $3,562,500 GB 6 James Jones $3,333,333 STL 6 Chris Williams $3,287,500 HOU 6 Ben Tate $3,100,000 SEA 6 Clinton McDonald $3,000,000 HOU 6 Joe Mays $3,000,000 DEN 6 Knowshon Moreno $3,000,000 DEN 6 Shaun Phillips $2,500,000 ARI 7 Jim Dray $1,875,000 DEN 7 Robert Ayers $1,875,000 NE 7 Dane Fletcher $1,200,000 SF 7 Anthony Dixon $1,166,667 KC 7 Quintin Demps $1,000,000 IND 7 Kavell Conner $900,000 IND 7 Jeff Linkenbach $900,000 Compensation over 32-pick limit; not awarded GB 7 Marshall Newhouse $805,000 GB 7 CJ Wilson $795,000 IND 7 Darrius Heyward-Bey $795,000 ARI 7 Javier Arenas $795,000 CHI 7 Major Wright $730,000 IND 7 Cassius Vaughn $730,000 http://overthecap.com/projecting-the-compensatory-draft-picks-for-2015/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I forget....who did we lose to free agency last year for which it would have been remotely possible to receive a compensatory pick? Not defending Idzik, just can't remember. Also this is a projection, nothing official yet. Perhaps a change to the thread title is in order.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 we lost cromartie as FA and he made the pro-bowl. shouldn't we get comp pick there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Nothing for Cromartie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Cro and Austin Howard. But not sure why Idzik and on top of that Tanny are being blamed here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 I forget....who did we lose to free agency last year for which it would have been remotely possible to receive a compensatory pick? Not defending Idzik, just can't remember. Also this is a projection, nothing official yet. Perhaps a change to the thread title is in order.... You're being very naive if you think all there is to being compensated those picks is just sitting in your chair during the offseason and see what the NFL is handing to you. Like teams just walk into the offseason going "oh my, look, out of nowhere we get rewarded something! Wow! DIdn't see that one coming!". This is part of what GM's have to figure out. Well, the smart ones at least. The Patriots have. The Ravens have. The Seahawks have. They know how to structure contracts, when to let guys walk, how to replace them, and they're still on top. The Jets haven't figured that out and again, so yes, this is on sh*tzik and Tanny. NE is a prime example. They let go their elite corner (Talib), and instead of replacing him with another UFA corner they get the 3rd round pick everyone knew they'd get by losing Talib, and they actually upgraded the corner position by picking up Revis who doesn't count against the comp. picks because he was cut. You bring in that turd of a corner (Patterson) and you cut him. You extend Sanchez, you cut him. You sign CJ, you (probably) cut him after a year. So we don't even get a pick for him next year. sh*tzik & Tanny in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I would think we should get something for Cro- but I am far not an expert on these rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Free agents that you sign offset the free agents that you lose. So the Decker and Giacomini signings offset the losses of Cro and Austin. Comp picks are based solely on the value of the contracts of lost players vs. the number of free agents your team signs. So Cro going to the pro bowl wouldn't change anything. The only way this is Tanny or Idzik's fault is in that they didn't sign enough players worth all that much on the open market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Nothing for Cromartie? No. We released him in March. He wasn't a FA loss. He doesn't factor into the award of any compensatory picks or offsetting any compensatory picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Free agents that you sign offset the free agents that you lose. So the Decker and Giacomini signings offset the losses of Cro and Austin. Comp picks are based solely on the value of the contracts of lost players vs. the number of free agents your team signs. So Cro going to the pro bowl wouldn't change anything. The only way this is Tanny or Idzik's fault is in that they didn't sign enough players worth all that much on the open market. Cromartie doesn't count because he got cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Cromartie doesn't count because he got cut. I forgot that, but that's true. Ditto for any cut players the Jets might've signed not counting against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 No. We released him in March. He wasn't a FA loss. He doesn't factor into the award of any compensatory picks or offsetting any compensatory picks. that's right on cromartie, forgot we cut him. Howard was a FA and was a starter for oakland, so perhaps we get something there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 that's right on cromartie, forgot we cut him. Howard was a FA and was a starter for oakland, so perhaps we get something there? Pretty sure signing UFA Decker would cancel that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 LOL People blast the hell out of idzik for not signing enoiugh guys and spending enough money, they then blast him for not getting Comp picks, something you only get if you lose players to fa and don't sign fa of a similar value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Cro and Austin Howard. But not sure why Idzik and on top of that Tanny are being blamed here ? wasn't Cro a release? Jets signed Beno & Decker so they won't get any comp picks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I don't get it.. Why is the op angry? The only way you're rewarded comp picks is if you lose a valuable fa and do not sign a fa of your own. Jets lost Howard and signed Breno. They also signed decker. Would you rather they didn't sign those guys and instead get a .4th round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I don't get it.. Why is the op angry? The only way you're rewarded comp picks is if you lose a valuable fa and do not sign a fa of your own. Jets lost Howard and signed Breno. They also signed decker. Would you rather they didn't sign those guys and instead get a .4th round pick? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 LOL People blast the hell out of idzik for not signing enoiugh guys and spending enough money, they then blast him for not getting Comp picks, something you only get if you lose players to fa and don't sign fa of a similar value. This here. Idzik got us comps pick last year and he surely knew about the system. The way to kind of manipulate the system is to sign players that were released. But the players that were released last year didn't match up with our needs. Also this system is moreso set up for the better teams in the league that are losing quality players and are close to the cap. With our massive cap room we are going to sign FA's the next few offseasons and likely wont be getting many picks this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Pretty sure signing UFA Decker would cancel that out. I don't know the rules either, but then why would NE get a 3rd for Talib after UFA signing Revis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I don't know the rules either, but then why would NE get a 3rd for Talib after UFA signing Revis? Revis was cut by Tampa. That's why we got a 4th instead of a 3rd, and is why NE would get a comp pick for Talib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaxor5 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 You're being very naive if you think all there is to being compensated those picks is just sitting in your chair during the offseason and see what the NFL is handing to you. Like teams just walk into the offseason going "oh my, look, out of nowhere we get rewarded something! Wow! DIdn't see that one coming!". This is part of what GM's have to figure out. Well, the smart ones at least. The Patriots have. The Ravens have. The Seahawks have. They know how to structure contracts, when to let guys walk, how to replace them, and they're still on top. The Jets haven't figured that out and again, so yes, this is on sh*tzik and Tanny. NE is a prime example. They let go their elite corner (Talib), and instead of replacing him with another UFA corner they get the 3rd round pick everyone knew they'd get by losing Talib, and they actually upgraded the corner position by picking up Revis who doesn't count against the comp. picks because he was cut. You bring in that turd of a corner (Patterson) and you cut him. You extend Sanchez, you cut him. You sign CJ, you (probably) cut him after a year. So we don't even get a pick for him next year. sh*tzik & Tanny in action. Everything you're saying is dead on. I thought about this when Revis was available and it was one of the reasons I was absolutely shocked we didn't pursue him. I really don't think Idzik had any idea what he was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I don't know the rules either, but then why would NE get a 3rd for Talib after UFA signing Revis? The way it basically works is, for the purpose of quantifying comp. picks, is they determine how many of your own free agents - FAs whose contracts expired - that someone else signed away, and compare that to free agents of other teams that you signed away from them. When you cut a player, though, that goes out the window. You didn't "lose" that player to free agency; you cut him. Revis was not a FA "lost" by Tampa, in this regard. He was still under contract with them for 2014 for $16 million and they cut him. Therefore, for these calculations, Revis was not a "true" UFA. His contract didn't expire by reaching its natural end or by the player opting out of voidable years; he was cut by Tampa. Had Revis only been signed to a 1 year deal with Tampa, and THEN the Pats signed him, then he would have counted against their compensatory pick haul (and it probably would have been Talib that got canceled out). That's why Cromartie doesn't count as a FA lost by us. He wasn't a FA: we cut him. Howard and Decker both do count, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Nothing for Cromartie? He was released. Doesn't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 last year the Jets had a million comp picks and didn't mean squat i know we are all believing the new GM will hit on all his picks but historically these picks don't add up to much and if you don't have a QB, none of it matters anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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